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Topic: When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? - page 6. (Read 731 times)

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Once things are out of hand; losses are no longer tracked & the gambler himself is needing help in particular with financial aspect. A gambler should be aware of his financial capability whether to still continue gambling or not. losing control is simply losing awareness of what is happening with his/her gambling activity. Lack of control with factors affecting one's gambling behavior is simply a sign that one is already losing control. Being unaware of consequences in every bet is also a sign for sure.

He will get into the big loss,because of doing the repeated bet on the gambling sites.This was caused because the gambler had get into the continuous loss in the gambling sites.Some gambling addicted person will do the random bet in the gambling sites because of the mental pressure caused by the gambling continuous loss.The continuous loss was not the permanent one in the gambling sites,this was the temporary one in the gambling sites.But the gambler had wronglyt understand the gambling sites and start to blame the gambling and started to create the thread to blame the gambling sites.But the same gambler was not doing the blame on the gambling sites when they made the big win in the gambling sites.The gambler play the gambling for the entainment and don't blame the gambling site for random loss.
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Chasing losses is very common among gamblers, either old or new and this is happening because not all gamblers have a way of making money, they scope around for some money and go back to the casino, when people chases money this way just know that they don't have a lot going on in their lives, they are living hand to hand or it's also possible that they are making too less money.

If you are making too less money from your job you should be risking too less on gambling, $1 is something you should afford to lose but they won't, the reward that $1 will bring them won't be life changing, they are greedy and jobless at the same time.

You can love gambling or the sports games that you bet on but know that the games doesn't love you back, bet responsibly or not at all, this is the right way when gambling regardless of how much you are making.
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Once things are out of hand; losses are no longer tracked & the gambler himself is needing help in particular with financial aspect. A gambler should be aware of his financial capability whether to still continue gambling or not. losing control is simply losing awareness of what is happening with his/her gambling activity. Lack of control with factors affecting one's gambling behavior is simply a sign that one is already losing control. Being unaware of consequences in every bet is also a sign for sure.
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At the moment we win, we usually think that we can possibly win more if we continue gambling. It turns out that our mindset of winning builds strong rather than thinking that we can possibly lose. But yes, it changes everything after suffering losses and failure, and the purpose of why a gambler continues gambling at this time is to chase the money they've lost. In the end, we become a victim of our own actions from the wrong mindset and uncontrollable emotions. It can possibly happen to anyone, especially for newcomers and I believe this seems normal until we realize and correct it.
Yes, I'm sure almost all gamblers have experienced what you mentioned, especially beginners, and I have also experienced it and it was a very valuable experience that will not be repeated in future bets.
And in my opinion, this is one of the casino's ways of getting gamblers addicted, so that they have a sense of curiosity that makes them continue playing when they win in the hope of getting their winnings back. In fact, that's when they were tested in terms of self-control. If it cannot be controlled it will always result in defeat due to loss of consciousness. So gamblers must be alert when this happens and try not to repeat it and must change the way they play with full awareness when playing again, so that they can control themselves when they win and stop and also stop when they experience several losses.
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But yes, it changes everything after suffering losses and failure, and the purpose of why a gambler continues gambling at this time is to chase the money they've lost. In the end, we become a victim of our own actions from the wrong mindset and uncontrollable emotions. It can possibly happen to anyone, especially for newcomers and I believe this seems normal until we realize and correct it.

This is true on most gambler that is still an amateur level even long time of playing. It’s really dumb to think about chasing loss on your current game but it’s unavoidable for those who can’t let go because they are using money they can’t afford to lose.

Chasing losses especially if the loss happened from different time is a punishment when gambling because your mind will not be enjoying when playing. In able to win on gambling, You should be positive since the real prize in gambling is the entertainment you will get from it using your money. Thinking about losses while playing will surely make your mind not at ease.
One of the greatest mistake any gambler will make is to try to chase a particular direction,  that open them up to higher level of risk and for sure it doesn't matter which direction you are chasing whether be it winning or losing direction is important to avoid that mental state and take gambling for what it is which is for fun and a temporarily result and the inability to repeat it results this is what make gambling to be a risky venture.

Much more also,  the best form of practices as a gambler os to always try as much as possible to always take a break after every game time which most likely going to be the baseline for you escape from losing your money while trying to be overly relying on your ability to repeat the trends at some point in time.
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I assume that with "control" in the terms of gambling and betting, you mean the hability a gambler has to step off their chair or log off their favorite online casino and accept loses, move on from it and do not continue for the rest of the day.

I believe it is actually a mixture of those things you have mentioned: for a gambler to lose control he only needs to realize he can indeed have the chance to win money (by having a significant win) after it happens, the gambler will likely continue to gamble, leading to loses, he may even lose all what he earned. In this position, the gambler cannot accept the reality of his losing money we could easily earn and withdraw (but did not because greed) and tries to recover some of this money through intensive gambling whatever how much money is left in their pocket.
It is a sad situation to be in, honestly, I hope neither of you will ever go through such a state of mind...
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If you are gambling just for fun for sure you can still control or limit yourself whether you win or lose. But if you are aiming to profit, for sure both of the scenarios given by the OP would eventually end up in the same outcome. If you win, you have the mindset of you have extra winning money as a reason for you to keep gambling, but if you lose, you have the reason to continue by trying to recover your loss, which can lead to addiction cause it would be a cycle. Plus if you started gambling without having a plan such as stopping at a $100 loss or win, for sure you would keep continuing gambling, don't hesitate to take profit, cause isn't that your goal in gambling, is to earn money? Gamblers also tend to lose their control when one of the two starts to act for every round, which is their mental and emotional, you would be pressured to never stop as you can't control both.
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Both factors affect gamblers.

Loses is the worst of it IMO. If a gambler is winning most likely he may keep winning and even if he has lost control and start betting higher then it is to his advantage because he keeps making money. Moreover if he later start to lose, he is likely to run off with the remaining profit with him, at this stage he has the control to guide himself but not when he is losing. Losing in gambling makes you take even more wrong decisions because you want to either try other pattern to see if you will be lucky which is significant of the confirmation that you have lost control.

So someone who is winning his bet is likely not to change his system indicative of being in control but a losing person continuously changes system, indicative of losing control.

How many times do you think a person would continue winning his bets in a role without losing. That's where the win and lose syndrome comes to play with the instinct of the gambler. In a situation where he wins and along the line loses then wins again. Would he have the self control to stop playing and go home. It's like a more interesting day. And along the line the system begin to bring losses to him. The decision he takes during this period can determine the outcome of what would be his gambling experience that day; joy or sadness. As it's rare to just win consecutively without losing. But, players can lose consecutively, without having any win. In such a situation, then I'd agree with you, because he'll gamble more to see a win. And he'll greedily expect to see a big win. Most times the house would trick him by giving him a big win equivalent to all he's lost that day. At that moment if the player has strong self control, he can stop and try next time. But, because he believes winning follows after winning, he'll continue playing with same thoughts that before his bank roll exhausts he'll get a bigger win. There the house can sweep all the funds leaving him with nothing. In my previous response, you'd notice that even if the winner doesn't have the self discipline to stop, he'll blow it up and end up playing like he's been losing. That's why I'd suggest that both factors are alike and we must not be carried away by one more than the other. Although losing can be worst than winning, in taking decisions. Yet it still depends on the player.
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But yes, it changes everything after suffering losses and failure, and the purpose of why a gambler continues gambling at this time is to chase the money they've lost. In the end, we become a victim of our own actions from the wrong mindset and uncontrollable emotions. It can possibly happen to anyone, especially for newcomers and I believe this seems normal until we realize and correct it.

This is true on most gambler that is still an amateur level even long time of playing. It’s really dumb to think about chasing loss on your current game but it’s unavoidable for those who can’t let go because they are using money they can’t afford to lose.

Chasing losses especially if the loss happened from different time is a punishment when gambling because your mind will not be enjoying when playing. In able to win on gambling, You should be positive since the real prize in gambling is the entertainment you will get from it using your money. Thinking about losses while playing will surely make your mind not at ease.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

When you've just started to gamble and you hit a jackpot that's the start of you getting hooked on gambling because your mindset shifted to easy money and you think that you can do it over and over again, I have seen so many gamblers gettign excited even after winning a small amount, for me, it's better for a newbie to lose in his first sessions so he'll have the idea that gambling is not easy money and its a luck base.

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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.
I think it's the other way around the beginner will rather think that it's hard to win in gambling so he will manage his bankroll and take it easy on wagering to keep the session longer and enjoyable, I started this way so I know that there are more losses than winnings in gambling.

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At the moment we win, we usually think that we can possibly win more if we continue gambling. It turns out that our mindset of winning builds strong rather than thinking that we can possibly lose. But yes, it changes everything after suffering losses and failure, and the purpose of why a gambler continues gambling at this time is to chase the money they've lost. In the end, we become a victim of our own actions from the wrong mindset and uncontrollable emotions. It can possibly happen to anyone, especially for newcomers and I believe this seems normal until we realize and correct it.
Have to agree with you, I believe it won't be wrong to say that no gambler comes into gambling with the right mindset about gambling, most new gamblers come in with the mindset of winning a lot of money and becoming a millionaire over night, but unfortunately, this is not how it is in gambling, some do get the new gamblers-luck and win a good amount of money at the very beginning of their gambling journey, but generally, gambling is not a get rich quick scheme, and so many new gamblers after realizing this stops gambling entirely, while some other who have lost good money try to see if they can recover that money, and from there, they become regular gamblers, and some even become addicts in the process.

This is exactly my story too, I came into gambling to make money and become rich, unfortunately, I realized this wasn't as easy as I thought it was, I tried to see if I could win some of the money I lost and the stop, but I kept winning little and losing more, the little wins made me believe that one day, I could win big, so I kept gambling, and till this day, I am still chasing that big winning.
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At the moment we win, we usually think that we can possibly win more if we continue gambling. It turns out that our mindset of winning builds strong rather than thinking that we can possibly lose. But yes, it changes everything after suffering losses and failure, and the purpose of why a gambler continues gambling at this time is to chase the money they've lost. In the end, we become a victim of our own actions from the wrong mindset and uncontrollable emotions. It can possibly happen to anyone, especially for newcomers and I believe this seems normal until we realize and correct it.
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If a person addicted to gambling was a super genius who didn't lose any bet and was in profit, he still wouldn't stop playing, he would continue playing until he died or a relative forced him into a hospital for treatment. against addiction. In other words, addiction is a disease, it doesn't matter if the person is making a lot of profit, that person still won't stop playing because in that person's mind, winning or losing doesn't matter anymore, what that person wants is the feeling that feel when playing, this can be seen if casinos allowed the addict to play without putting money in

and at the same time, the casinos must also allow the addict not to win money, but he could play without putting money in, we would see that the addict would not stop playing, he would continue playing every day and for many hours. So if we ask the addict: what are they gaining by playing in a casino where they don't put money in and don't win money either? I believe that the addict's answer would be that he plays because he needs to play to continue feeling good and without playing he doesn't see what he will do with his life anymore. In other words, while for a normal person the day has 24 hours and in those 24 hours they need to do many important things, for the addict the day has 24 hours and in those 24 hours they have to stay playing all day, they even don't like going to work , at school and anywhere else, they just want to play
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The both ideas of gambling dependence is true but I believe the first idea is the most occurring and correct reason for dependence in gambling, the excitement that comes from using a small amount to make a win more than 12x the staked amount is something else. It gives the gambler hope of making more wins, even for some who claim to gamble for fun, before you'll know it, they've turned to aggressive and irresponsible gamblers. Only few gamblers with the experience of big wins tend to gamble responsible, even if they experience some terrible losses. Aside that when gamblers experience some losses the idea of playing more to rise to their previous state is quite tempting but it can not be compared to when a gambler makes big wins. Mind you, gambling dependence and irresponsible gambling are separate thing so don't get it twisted.

This is correct when you are just beginning on your gambling journey but this changes to the later idea when you already experience winning huge amount using small amount but later on lose everything. That time will make more focus on recovering your losses rather than being optimistic in winning big.

Casino will surely win in the using house so the more you play the more chance you lose that will make you end up on chasing losses rather than focusing on winning for the sole purpose of profit.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

The gambling win will bring back anything in your life,if you want to own the new company for the business.This was the possible by doing the gambling and the big win from the same gambling sites.The gambler who had trust the gambling sites will win one day in the same gambling sites.But the patience was the key for the success in the gambling sites,many gambler will leave the gambling sites after the small loss in the gambling sites.The gambler should not depend on the gambling sites,he need to considered the gambling sites as the entertainment.The lucky gambler will earn the profit from the gambling site,the bad luck gambler will o learn of the game of the gambling on every loss in the gambling sites.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
I think the gambler loses control when he notices money can be made easily, through a simple click on his smartphone or computer when gambling. This aspect is even more powerful than the fact he realizes it's possible to hit big winnings. It's not exactly about the prize size, but about the possibility of generating easy money through simple clicks, without doing any effort on the process, at anytime. It's an instant method of making money at first impression. Things he accepted that would take him years or decades to achieve financially now have the possibility of being achieved in few days or months. However, that is just a temporary effect of the excitement gambling creates on him. It's so intense that makes the person disconnect from reality for a while, having megalomania delusions.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

I think the answer is very relative, depending on each individual or the gamblers themselves. however, there is nothing wrong with what you said. It could be said, in general, many gamblers get trapped when they get high wins. The desire to do it again and again will affect our minds and psychology which is formed from dopamine. repeating victory after victory is something that makes us happy, especially as our experience increases, our level of getting higher wins will form by itself. Well, things like that are usually common problems and are our shared experience. So, gambling is complex and not just as you say. there are many reasons, assumptions, in every gambler.

But let's talk from your side, yes I agree that addiction to gambling can be triggered when we experience loss after loss. In most cases, our emotions are unconsciously involved to a greater extent, especially with the emotion of anger. things like this often make us lose control of ourselves. When the time comes when our money runs out, then we realize that we have been carried away by a condition of anger that causes us to lose self-control. and believe it or not, this experience will almost be experienced by most gamblers. for beginners, they will feel disappointment, depression and so on. For those who are familiar with gambling and understand it properly, this is part of the risk.
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The both ideas of gambling dependence is true but I believe the first idea is the most occurring and correct reason for dependence in gambling, the excitement that comes from using a small amount to make a win more than 12x the staked amount is something else. It gives the gambler hope of making more wins, even for some who claim to gamble for fun, before you'll know it, they've turned to aggressive and irresponsible gamblers. Only few gamblers with the experience of big wins tend to gamble responsible, even if they experience some terrible losses. Aside that when gamblers experience some losses the idea of playing more to rise to their previous state is quite tempting but it can not be compared to when a gambler makes big wins. Mind you, gambling dependence and irresponsible gambling are separate thing so don't get it twisted.
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When I was addicted, if I win I continue to gamble, if I lose, I still continue to gamble. Why? Because I want to earn money. That is the cause of the irresponsible gambling.

I was not also having gambling budget which was another mistake.

One of the worst time is the time of losses, you will continue to deposit into your gambling account and continue to lose. It even happens that some people will not have any money left and start to borrow money which is a very bad idea.

Gambling the budget solves this. Just 5% of weekly income is enough for gambling.
Not having a gambling budget could indeed have a grave impact on your total well-being as a gambler and that also is the beginning of possible addictions,  but then also we have to understand that there is a clear line difference between being a consistent heavy loser,  and being and addicts and in the case you explain it seems that you may not be a full ledge addicts but almost becoming one.

I commend you always for being able to beat the addiction and coming out 100% clean and with a lot of lessons learned in the process because we can attest to the fact that being excessive will only lead to losses so no gambler should ever attempt to do that at any point in time to avoid such loses as mentioned and even possible addictions.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
The greatest dependence on gambling is actually activated at the point of a win. It doesn't matter whether is it a big win or a small win. Why, because at that point, all our happy emotions have kicked in and we are not thinking straight. We become very overconfident that we can win again if we bet again. And due to the fact that we want to keep experiencing the happy way we are feeling at the moment, as they call it the "thrill", we keep on gambling. This is the onset of gambling addiction.
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