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I have read a lot of gambling threads both here on the forum and in other forums. This makes me to draw the conclusion that most gamblers are either too lazy to read the Terms and Conditions (T&C,)or they don't just care about it. The results of which leads to misunderstandings and frustrations, often resulting in negative reviews and complaints that may not accurately represent the casino's practices.
It might be better for casino to begin rebuild their site and put that Terms and Conditions on top page. because we've seen it all this time the casino put their rule on bottom page, and sometime located in a close place which is invisible to the gambler eye. I don't know why, maybe the developer casino still create the unclear rule so the gambler may not have to read it, so if that something happens, the casino will take blame the gambler. With this situation, we can't just blame the gambler on one side, maybe the fault is also on the casino's side.
There might be an explanation for this, and this is where old sites started, so maybe they just go with the tradition? Besides it's actually better is if at the top/center is the title of the website and some other important details on its sides. I know TAC is also important but don't forget it was being showed right before we clicked that sign up button right after we fill the sign up forms.

We should read it by there for fck sake but nope we didn't because we find the wall of text intimidating. It's not the casino are the ones who put a blame but it was actually the gamblers who did it. Almost everyday there are complaint threads that we can found here in our forum.
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.

The gambler should not do any small mistake like this to lose their money in the gambling.If the gambling site is the good one and the account was banned by the gambling sites because of the mistake made by the gambler.So the gambler should take some time to read the rules mentioned by the gambling sites,then the gambler should play the gambling without the VPN.The gambler should check the gambling site background verification and reviews made by the old games on that sites.This all help the gambler to avoid of loss money in the gambling sites.
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A player not reading the platform's Terms and Condition will often ends up in misunderstanding. Gamblers should know that every casino have their own terms and conditions so assuming that the tos of a casino is the same as the other casinos may end up in a problem.  This may result in the delay of withdrawal of funds to loss of funds of the gambler like being unable to withdraw because he has to provide KYC, or his account is banned due to the illegal use of VPN.
There is no point of misunderstanding anything if they don't even understand things in the first place. When you are getting into a contract and don't even read the rules or the statements involved, you basically don't understand anything about the contract except for the things that you might have heard about it from others.

A gambler should always verify his assumptions through reading the casinos ToS and through inquiries of things stated on the terms of service to verify something that the gambler does not understand.
I don't think someone needs to verify any information that they get from the terms and conditions unless they find something that actually contradicts another statement made by the casino somewhere else.
legendary
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In fact, the reason why the rules and conditions are shared in such long texts may be due to the fact that gamblers are lazy. Or, as you say, because it contains conditions that will not be ignored. It should actually be requested that the sites should not put it on the site without reading it, but this event does not care much because it suits the sites.

Many gamblers are lazy and of course this is the mistake of gamblers who never read the rules and regulations in full so they don't know what is allowed or not. I just don't read it sometimes. Related to this, all the regulations made by all casinos are almost the same, only there are some that are specific, such as which countries are allowed or not to access casinos.
Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
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people keep saying: people should read the casinos' TOS, people agreed to the casinos' TOS. I also agree that it is necessary to read the casinos' TOS before creating an account, but we also need to understand and not ignore the fact that some casinos say here on the forum that they do not ask for KYC unless some suspicious activity is detected, so people they create an account at the casino and play with peace of mind, but when they want to withdraw the casino asks for kyc and obviously the customer will refuse to do kyc because the casino did not show proof that he (the customer) was involved in any suspicious activity. us here on the forum when a person appears accusing another member or when a person appears here on the forum accusing a casino

The first thing that all members do is post asking the guy who created the thread accusing the casino to post evidence and when he doesn't post evidence everyone ignores him and accuses him of being a liar, but strangely enough, if the casino appears in that person's thread and Accusing cheating and suspicious activities no one will ask the casino for proof, people immediately believe the casino. I keep asking myself why does this happen? As if this weren't already something serious enough to leave anyone who had an account blocked, we also see the following in the casinos' TOS: the casino reserves the right to change the TOS at any time and day without prior notice

I ask: a person will read in the TOS that the bonus will be 100% of the deposit and then they only need kyc level 1. Then the person sees that it is a good TOS and creates an account thinking that they are in a good casino, but 30 days later the person has created an account, deposited money, done kyc level 2 and met all bonus requirements, the time comes to withdraw and they refuse, and when he asks support why withdrawal is not being allowed, support tells him that in the TOS You have to go through kyc level 2 to withdraw. So, was it really worth reading the TOS?
When an accusation rises then possible angles would really be something that needs to be checked, plus we know that there are accusations which turns out to be fake and obviously trying out to take down other competitions here on this market place and this is why they kind of fake claims are common but we know that majority of those are really that legit or something real. This is the beauty on having this kind of community on which everyone could really be able to make their words and insights towards on a certain situation whether its not fair or totally shady or really just that right for a certain user to suffer because of violating something.
If you do really have hindrance about with those sudden requirement on the time that you are making some withdrawal specially huge amounts then it would be always ideal and sensible thing to be done for you to stick
into those places which are reputable or long time known within this community and wont really be putting or touching up your feet into those new platforms.

Im aint saying that new ones would really be considered or automatically be treated to be non-fair but it would really be that always a bad idea if you do put up or deposit huge
amounts specially on a new platform. Always consider on testing out waters first before you would really be depositing huge. As for TOS reading then everyone or almost 100%
of gamblers do really ignore on reading that huge pile of text until they would realize that they had missed out something when issues arises.
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A player not reading the platform's Terms and Condition will often ends up in misunderstanding. Gamblers should know that every casino have their own terms and conditions so assuming that the tos of a casino is the same as the other casinos may end up in a problem.  This may result in the delay of withdrawal of funds to loss of funds of the gambler like being unable to withdraw because he has to provide KYC, or his account is banned due to the illegal use of VPN.

A gambler should always verify his assumptions through reading the casinos ToS and through inquiries of things stated on the terms of service to verify something that the gambler does not understand.
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Unfortunately, as we do with every website or digital application, we don't read the terms and conditions documents when registering for online casinos and we accept them without reading them. Unfortunately, this situation is actually a great disadvantage in knowing whether we are right or defending ourselves in case of possible victimization. Although many terms and conditions documents are very similar to each other, some items may vary on each website. For this reason, it is necessary to read at least enough to have a general knowledge of the terms and conditions documents and to be familiar with a few fixed clauses.

On the other hand, not reading the terms and conditions of the services we entrust our money to especially online casinos actually makes the money we deposit there and the protection of our personal information extra risky. For this reason, not reading the terms and conditions document of online services especially those with financial content is a big L for us.
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people keep saying: people should read the casinos' TOS, people agreed to the casinos' TOS. I also agree that it is necessary to read the casinos' TOS before creating an account, but we also need to understand and not ignore the fact that some casinos say here on the forum that they do not ask for KYC unless some suspicious activity is detected, so people they create an account at the casino and play with peace of mind, but when they want to withdraw the casino asks for kyc and obviously the customer will refuse to do kyc because the casino did not show proof that he (the customer) was involved in any suspicious activity. us here on the forum when a person appears accusing another member or when a person appears here on the forum accusing a casino

The first thing that all members do is post asking the guy who created the thread accusing the casino to post evidence and when he doesn't post evidence everyone ignores him and accuses him of being a liar, but strangely enough, if the casino appears in that person's thread and Accusing cheating and suspicious activities no one will ask the casino for proof, people immediately believe the casino. I keep asking myself why does this happen? As if this weren't already something serious enough to leave anyone who had an account blocked, we also see the following in the casinos' TOS: the casino reserves the right to change the TOS at any time and day without prior notice

I ask: a person will read in the TOS that the bonus will be 100% of the deposit and then they only need kyc level 1. Then the person sees that it is a good TOS and creates an account thinking that they are in a good casino, but 30 days later the person has created an account, deposited money, done kyc level 2 and met all bonus requirements, the time comes to withdraw and they refuse, and when he asks support why withdrawal is not being allowed, support tells him that in the TOS You have to go through kyc level 2 to withdraw. So, was it really worth reading the TOS?
legendary
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In fact, the reason why the rules and conditions are shared in such long texts may be due to the fact that gamblers are lazy. Or, as you say, because it contains conditions that will not be ignored. It should actually be requested that the sites should not put it on the site without reading it, but this event does not care much because it suits the sites.

Many gamblers are lazy and of course this is the mistake of gamblers who never read the rules and regulations in full so they don't know what is allowed or not. I just don't read it sometimes. Related to this, all the regulations made by all casinos are almost the same, only there are some that are specific, such as which countries are allowed or not to access casinos.
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I have read a lot of gambling threads both here on the forum and in other forums. This makes me to draw the conclusion that most gamblers are either too lazy to read the Terms and Conditions (T&C,)or they don't just care about it. The results of which leads to misunderstandings and frustrations, often resulting in negative reviews and complaints that may not accurately represent the casino's practices. It is too bad. I have noticed that when gamblers don't read the T&S of a casino, they :

Anyone familiar with the forum reputation board will understand the benefit of this your thread, many reports have been opened on that board and when you trace the genesis of their problems, it's always because they failed to do the basics, they don't read even the necessary terms and condition, all they do is to accept any conditional warning that appear on their screen without even understanding the message they are trying to pass to them, it's annoying with those pop up notification but it is better to always read them than cry after a casino later.

There are even many instances where casinos send emails and SMS to players if there is a revise in their terms and conditions just so that the customers should know the changes that have occurred in the casino but many are so guilty of trashing it into the dust bin, they don't read them because they see it as a normal message. The only time you see gamblers run to read about those instructions is when they see that there are warnings of withdrawal from their accounts, we should learn to practice reading T&C, not just from casinos even in other legal policies as well.
legendary
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In fact, the reason why the rules and conditions are shared in such long texts may be due to the fact that gamblers are lazy. Or, as you say, because it contains conditions that will not be ignored. It should actually be requested that the sites should not put it on the site without reading it, but this event does not care much because it suits the sites.
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I honestly don't like reading terms and conditions of any websites either casinos or not, I found them not satisfying at all, I instantly feel lazy when I open them up, even on this forum, when I open a new thread and I see lots of words, I instantly get tired of reading through it.

Reading through Terms and Conditions is important if you want to avoid having problems with any online casino, you just have to get it done to avoid stories that touches later, or maybe just use a recommended online casino that people around you are also using, if any problem arises they will be there to guide you through.

I still feel comfortable with all online casinos on this forum, I hardly have any problem using them, so terms and conditions problems comes from less popular casinos, that's why using popular casinos on the forum is safer, still it's better to read the ToS if you can.
It seems that all gambling platforms have to reconsider the terms and conditions (T&C) they provide to everyone who wants to register on a gambling platform. What the casino must do is to summarize the points in the registration terms and conditions (T&C) so that they are more interesting to read. Because to be honest, if it weren't for the fact that it's really important to read the terms and conditions (T&C), I would have chosen to skip this. Because honestly, when I see writing that is long enough to include several slides, I feel lazy to read it. And we need to understand together that literacy culture is currently continuing to decline. So it is important for a gambling platform to create a new policy related to the T&C, perhaps conveying it via video text to make it more interesting to see.
Having that summation with their TOS? It cant be possible and if you a potential user or registrant would be tending to make out some involvement with the platform then whether you do read up or not about websites terms or not then its your choice because once you do missed up those important points and violates it, then you would really be able to suffer those consequences and this is something very normal.

If you do find out on reading up those pile of text to be boring then its your choice to make but not all would really be that minding about reading it up even those text or paragraphs would be short
because this isnt something important for them to read up and find those things as long they could really be able to play directly and even myself do really have that kind of
behavior on which i do really just that skip right away and tick out that check box without reading up those terms and play all the way.

On the time that violations had been pointed out and you had missed on reading up those terms or saving up then there's no way that you could really be able to make some
counteraction on what issues that they had been thrown up into you.
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I honestly don't like reading terms and conditions of any websites either casinos or not, I found them not satisfying at all, I instantly feel lazy when I open them up, even on this forum, when I open a new thread and I see lots of words, I instantly get tired of reading through it.

Reading through Terms and Conditions is important if you want to avoid having problems with any online casino, you just have to get it done to avoid stories that touches later, or maybe just use a recommended online casino that people around you are also using, if any problem arises they will be there to guide you through.

I still feel comfortable with all online casinos on this forum, I hardly have any problem using them, so terms and conditions problems comes from less popular casinos, that's why using popular casinos on the forum is safer, still it's better to read the ToS if you can.
It seems that all gambling platforms have to reconsider the terms and conditions (T&C) they provide to everyone who wants to register on a gambling platform. What the casino must do is to summarize the points in the registration terms and conditions (T&C) so that they are more interesting to read. Because to be honest, if it weren't for the fact that it's really important to read the terms and conditions (T&C), I would have chosen to skip this. Because honestly, when I see writing that is long enough to include several slides, I feel lazy to read it. And we need to understand together that literacy culture is currently continuing to decline. So it is important for a gambling platform to create a new policy related to the T&C, perhaps conveying it via video text to make it more interesting to see.
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I feel like all casimosu should be very transparent about their rules and regulations to customers. I think directly mentioning that "customers need to give personal information and complete kyc to withdraw money" may work. Dishonest customers may exploit if chances given to them. And they violate rules intentionally to disrupt business of casino operators sometimes. It is so sad legit gambling companies lose money because of annoying customers. Never forget that there are many laborers getting paid in those casinos so they can feed their families etc
They are already. You can go to the gambling section of our forum and you will see there that most casinos always indicates if they have a KYC or not in their title. They can also mention there if VPNs and other things are allowed or not. For more information, we can just click on it to get redirected on their ann thread.

As long as the casino is trust worthy, they shouldn't worry about these dishonest customers because I know their attempts will never be successful. In an online casino, I think they only have limited staffs but it was the offline casino are the ones who had more laborers. There is still a chance for them to apply in the other if ever the casino that they are working with closes down.
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Maybe most people always want to play games directly on the available gambling sites, but don't want or are lazy to read the gambling site rules that have been implemented as SOP for the gambling site, when they experience problems with withdrawals and so on, they will definitely give bad comments about the site. So to avoid these problems, it is very important for every gambler to always read and fully understand the terms and conditions imposed by the casino before starting to play. If something is unclear, it is best for them to contact casino customer service for further clarification.
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I honestly don't like reading terms and conditions of any websites either casinos or not, I found them not satisfying at all, I instantly feel lazy when I open them up, even on this forum, when I open a new thread and I see lots of words, I instantly get tired of reading through it.

Reading through Terms and Conditions is important if you want to avoid having problems with any online casino, you just have to get it done to avoid stories that touches later, or maybe just use a recommended online casino that people around you are also using, if any problem arises they will be there to guide you through.

I still feel comfortable with all online casinos on this forum, I hardly have any problem using them, so terms and conditions problems comes from less popular casinos, that's why using popular casinos on the forum is safer, still it's better to read the ToS if you can.
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Of course, if a gambler forgets to examine the casino's coin TOS, he will undoubtedly have a problem with the casino and will undoubtedly blame the gaming platform on which he is gambling. So, if an investigation is conducted, the support crew will discover that the fault is with the gambler.

So it is critical to first understand the regulations that exist in the casino where we will be gambling our money, so that we can determine as soon as possible whether we will continue to play or not, and there will be no more difficulties in the end.

i think most of gamblers and players never read all the terms and conditions before playing in any sites gambling because they want only the money and winning . maybe before any deposit of money  .reading the term of bonus and withdrawal and kyc it is very important  because the site can scam you under the name of bonus and reward and they ask you to wagered the deposit amount lot of time for example 20 time and this very hard for enable the withdrawal . the player need to make sure if the bonus will not activate automaticly before deposit if he dont like the bonus and if he can cancel the bonus , for me never like those type  bonus

Because most gamblers are always in a hurry to play for the sake of gambling, they always forget to do the important thing to read first, then end up getting angry and complaining against the casino, which after all is the fault of the gambler.
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i think most of gamblers and players never read all the terms and conditions before playing in any sites gambling because they want only the money and winning . maybe before any deposit of money  .reading the term of bonus and withdrawal and kyc it is very important  because the site can scam you under the name of bonus and reward and they ask you to wagered the deposit amount lot of time for example 20 time and this very hard for enable the withdrawal . the player need to make sure if the bonus will not activate automaticly before deposit if he dont like the bonus and if he can cancel the bonus , for me never like those type  bonus
There are thousands of such scam gambling and casino websites advertising online, if you have an account on those websites then you will be a victim of all these frauds. But before doing all these phishing accounts you must read some cautionary terms. You may face account block/suspension etc. if you create a website account, deposit, play dice games, withdraw without following the conditions. Remember that real or genuine websites will never cheat you but they will help you if you face any problem and they have a strong community or support team which offers 24/7 service to help you.
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i think most of gamblers and players never read all the terms and conditions before playing in any sites gambling because they want only the money and winning . maybe before any deposit of money  .reading the term of bonus and withdrawal and kyc it is very important  because the site can scam you under the name of bonus and reward and they ask you to wagered the deposit amount lot of time for example 20 time and this very hard for enable the withdrawal . the player need to make sure if the bonus will not activate automaticly before deposit if he dont like the bonus and if he can cancel the bonus , for me never like those type  bonus
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I have read a lot of gambling threads both here on the forum and in other forums. This makes me to draw the conclusion that most gamblers are either too lazy to read the Terms and Conditions (T&C,)or they don't just care about it. The results of which leads to misunderstandings and frustrations, often resulting in negative reviews and complaints that may not accurately represent the casino's practices.



I have to admit it, most of the gamblers including me are too lazy to read the whole TOS or T&C as they all usually have some similarities with any other online casinos. The most common thing for an experienced gambler to look for from the TOS is the KYC compliance and country restrictions or whether or not the use of VPN are prohibited, any other terms are usually being skipped. But to be fair, there are some who read the whole context of the TOS, especially those who are constantly critical with their casino reviews.



3. Accuse the casino of not being transparent because they request KYC that they want to steal their personal information.

Some casinos aren't being transparent with KYC verification until you hit a huge winning and the amount of money you have accumulated on your bankroll from the series of winning are extremely high, that's when they are going to ask you to comply for KYC. This has happened many times already.
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