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There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.
Buying an expensive thing does not mean leaving a luxurious lifestyle or doesn't mean it's not your own kind of thing because you didn't purchase it. Normally life is meant to be comfortable. just that human being always see what other people do as a wrong thing because they can't afford it or there financial status does permit them. But there are types of job you would love to do that involves you using an expensive or luxurious things to achieve it. Like when you are looking for a contract, you need to look nice with a good outfit and a clean car that will put you in Oder of what you are seaking for. Though it might not necessarily mean that you must buy with your money but you can hire it and after the contract you may return and buy your own. Life is all about packaging.
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March 12, 2024, 05:39:48 PM
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Let's start by defining what luxury is ?
If we talk about MacBook, it is not luxury, it is a clever marketing and nothing more Smiley Because this platform does not have any distinct advantages or unique characteristics that could objectively "elevate" it above other similar devices. Who can refute ? Smiley
Luxury is really unique, not available to mass consumers, goods or services that have really unique properties against the background of other products. And such items have their own circle of consumers. Believe me - a ragamuffin with the latest iPhone looks not luxurious but ridiculous and stupid. And with a high probability, if the iPhone is real and not a Chinese fake, it is either bought on credit, which will drive the owner into debt for many months, or stolen Smiley. So for an ordinary person to talk about luxury is probably silly, because such a person is not a member of the community where it is accepted and where they can afford it.

Some people don't understand well what luxury is, and many can't differentiate between expensive and luxury, they think they are the same even though in reality they are not. I like your presentation, the uniqueness or characteristics of a good/service is the main indicator of luxury, if many people can have it then it is no longer called luxury. Some goods are said to be luxury because they have special value, such as how they are made, are limited in quantity, and are only available if we order them. Personally, I don't consider iPhone products to be luxury goods, because they are items that are used daily by almost all groups. But it all comes back to each individual point of view, luxury is highly stratified, in terms of how much money one is prepared to spend when one wants to have the luxury of goods/or services.

...At the same time, we should not forget that even the concept of "expensive" is very different for people. For someone expensive is 100 dollars, and for someone else it is acceptable to pay 1,000 dollars for the same product or service.  Everything in our world is relative, including value. And yes - luxury is not primarily about money, it is about inaccessibility for the masses, and high price is a derivative of inaccessibility to many or limited quantity.
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March 12, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
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Let's start by defining what luxury is ?
If we talk about MacBook, it is not luxury, it is a clever marketing and nothing more Smiley Because this platform does not have any distinct advantages or unique characteristics that could objectively "elevate" it above other similar devices. Who can refute ? Smiley
Luxury is really unique, not available to mass consumers, goods or services that have really unique properties against the background of other products. And such items have their own circle of consumers. Believe me - a ragamuffin with the latest iPhone looks not luxurious but ridiculous and stupid. And with a high probability, if the iPhone is real and not a Chinese fake, it is either bought on credit, which will drive the owner into debt for many months, or stolen Smiley. So for an ordinary person to talk about luxury is probably silly, because such a person is not a member of the community where it is accepted and where they can afford it.

Some people don't understand well what luxury is, and many can't differentiate between expensive and luxury, they think they are the same even though in reality they are not. I like your presentation, the uniqueness or characteristics of a good/service is the main indicator of luxury, if many people can have it then it is no longer called luxury. Some goods are said to be luxury because they have special value, such as how they are made, are limited in quantity, and are only available if we order them. Personally, I don't consider iPhone products to be luxury goods, because they are items that are used daily by almost all groups. But it all comes back to each individual point of view, luxury is highly stratified, in terms of how much money one is prepared to spend when one wants to have the luxury of goods/or services.
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March 12, 2024, 03:07:56 PM
#99
The main basis for work productivity is not how luxurious the items you use are, but the point is the comfort when you use them. A person's choice of goods certainly varies, maybe you feel more productive while using a Mac laptop, but for others it may be possible to achieve everything with a cheaper laptop. I hope you don't buy a Mac laptop because of prestige, as long as you can improve the quality of the type of work you do, it will be better for you because it is a luxury item that is part of your work requirements.

Exactly! that's why the rest of us purchase expensive items because the quality of something is more important to us and it will help make our work easier and better, especially if it's related to our work or source of income. People are becoming more selective in choosing things to buy, especially if they notice that they spend more when they buy cheap things.
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March 12, 2024, 02:35:04 PM
#98
There's this phrase "the more you want to save from buying cheaper things than what you really desire, the more it will cost you". It is a bit like with settling for less; buying a secondhand laptop and car, buying immitation or copied brands for clothes and the likes. Well, if you don't have the financial capacity to do so, then nothing's wrong with it. But if you do then you're still not wrong however quite missing a thing. There's nothing wrong with perhaps buying second hand or used items, just to use it as an example, but most of the time there are flaws which would make you pay more than you're supposed to, than with buying a brand new one. It is not being luxurious but more of being more efficient with your money. If you cannot afford buying a brand new one, then isn't it enough to say that you should save more to afford it? For me, we just often rush things. I don't intend to upset or offend other by saying these things. I just want to say that if you really want something then at least plan for it. Again, it is not being luxurious but more of needing a bigger drive within, to achieve things ( yes applicable to almost everything not only with lifestyle or objects).

The important point in what you said is that we should use our money efficiently. Our expenses can be new or second-hand, and this depends on whether our needs are met or not. If your needs are not met when you buy a second-hand product, we can purchase a brand new product. Therefore, it is important to determine your needs. We should also consider the possibility of spending extra money on a second-hand product. When we buy a second-hand product, the expenses incurred may cause more costs than buying a brand new product. We cannot know whether the product will cost money, but it is still important to know the product and take a certain amount of risk.

Once the needs are determined, we can use our money more efficiently. I agree with what you say, being planned will benefit us in many ways.
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March 12, 2024, 10:57:11 AM
#97
The main basis for work productivity is not how luxurious the items you use are, but the point is the comfort when you use them. A person's choice of goods certainly varies, maybe you feel more productive while using a Mac laptop, but for others it may be possible to achieve everything with a cheaper laptop. I hope you don't buy a Mac laptop because of prestige, as long as you can improve the quality of the type of work you do, it will be better for you because it is a luxury item that is part of your work requirements.
When we have to complete work with luxury items, of course we have to spend more capital to be able to get these items and if someone can complete their work not with luxury items, but they can do it with items that can actually complete their work, of course not. having to spend more money to buy the item is different, if we really need the item to help complete the work we are doing of course we have to buy it whatever the price of the item, you are right of course we don't have to buy an item because of prestige because this is only detrimental savings that we have even though we don't need these items.
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March 12, 2024, 10:05:19 AM
#96
The main basis for work productivity is not how luxurious the items you use are, but the point is the comfort when you use them. A person's choice of goods certainly varies, maybe you feel more productive while using a Mac laptop, but for others it may be possible to achieve everything with a cheaper laptop. I hope you don't buy a Mac laptop because of prestige, as long as you can improve the quality of the type of work you do, it will be better for you because it is a luxury item that is part of your work requirements.


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March 12, 2024, 09:10:27 AM
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I think this depends on what you need, if you really need an item such as a laptop that has high specifications such as quality then I think there is nothing wrong for you to buy it even though the price is more expensive than some other laptops. What should be the main focus here is "needs", you need quality and that means there will be no point if you buy an item that cannot meet your needs because it will not be used.

So in my opinion it is not a luxury because it is clearly an item that you need, on the other hand we must understand that the name of luxury is more likely to be things that you want but do not have any benefit for your life, such as buying something for a lifestyle that is actually only to increase the point of view of others to you and there is no real benefit that you feel from something you buy. So clearly the bottom line is that a need is not a want, there is a significant difference between them, and it doesn't matter if it's expensive but if you really need it then it doesn't matter if you buy it because there is a real benefit from what you have bought.
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March 11, 2024, 06:36:04 PM
#94
Luxury is a desire, not a need... Yet, it cannot be denied that nowadays luxury has become a necessity that we feel obliged to have. Especially as public figures, in order to be respected by other people, sometimes we have to appear a little eccentric and a little luxurious... because nowadays most people judge by their outer appearance alone. But this applies to certain people...if we ourselves as ordinary people just adapt to the situation, the important thing is that the appearance is decent and not embarrassing. Don't let it happen that just because we want to look extraordinary and appear luxurious in front of other people, we sacrifice all of our savings to buy luxury goods, just to fulfill our desires and prestige.

And it would be better if we focused more on improving ourselves and the skills we have, so that we can continue to generate profits to achieve true financial freedom. Because it's useless to look luxurious, but when you go home you look like a destitute person.

It's not only about looks these days I believe, but it's about your financial situation that matters to most people in society. People who are doing very well financially are highly respectable individuals in any society nowadays, and if someone isn't financially stable, they are barely respected even by their friends and family. It's the harsh reality of the world that we live in, it's unfortunate, I know, but we can't change it which is why we are always struggling to become the person that society praises and doesn't ignore or disrespect.

There is nothing wrong in not being very rich, the world is full of people having normal financial conditions, there aren't millions of millionaires and billionaires in the world, however, society doesn't need to know that you don't eat food twice a day because you can't afford it or you will lose all the respect, unfortunately.
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March 11, 2024, 06:30:12 PM
#93

I once bought a Mac but it didn't make me more productive. I didn't understand the function of the Macintosh because I was used to Windows, so I chose to sell it again and buy a regular laptop that uses Windows. Additionally, when I use a mac, many of my friends think I'm "different" because I live in the countryside, which makes me uncomfortable.

So, I don't think luxury items will make us more productive, but the items we need will make us productive, whatever the price.
  It not anyone’s fault you couldn’t operate the laptop you bought with your own money, before going for anything at least you should have an idea of what you’re going for before you even thought of buying, most time people just do things out of peer pressure, if  you feel comfortable working with the windows why not stick to it or if you have to change it to something better than the one you were using, so it is better to get the  higher version of the windows since you have the money to invest in yourself. You didn’t draw out your scale of preference so to make proper decisions when it comes to being resourceful. You could’ve done better knowing very well you could do without the Mac book. Unless you want  to learn so as to make it comfortable for your
 Scale of preference refers to a list of unsatisfied wants arranged in order of their relative importance. In other words, it is a list showing the order in which we want to satisfy our wants arrange in order of priority. Scale of preference is really important for it makes it easier for choice to be made. It cut down the cost of expenditure and it helps stay within thier financial limitation. You won’t have to go about making unnecessary purchase just to satisfy you cravings. There is a reason this is being taught in school so as to make the younger generation more conservative.
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March 11, 2024, 05:34:22 PM
#92
What you described in OP and the illustration you gave using your Mac laptop doesn't clearly paint he picture of a luxury life. People who lives luxury life doesn't care so much about the quality of the product rather the price. They will come with statements like "What's the latest if Mercedes car", "what is the most expensive car in your company" and they will just buy it just for the prestige. Same goes with their clothings and lots more. They will apply same to barbing saloon. They will chose the most expensive haircut even if it doesn't fit them. Your example of buying Mac is not luxury but buying something necessary to enhance your productivity.
Yes - I can quite understand what you mean, not everything that is expensive is considered a luxury by those who need these products to support their work and business. The quality of the product they buy is needed regardless of its value - but that doesn't mean they need to buy it when they can't afford it.

The point is that luxury is for those who consider it a lifestyle - while for those who need it, it is a necessity that must be had so that their business and work runs smoothly. I like the second point - this is a necessity, not a lifestyle.
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March 11, 2024, 05:17:04 PM
#91
What you described in OP and the illustration you gave using your Mac laptop doesn't clearly paint he picture of a luxury life. People who lives luxury life doesn't care so much about the quality of the product rather the price. They will come with statements like "What's the latest if Mercedes car", "what is the most expensive car in your company" and they will just buy it just for the prestige. Same goes with their clothings and lots more. They will apply same to barbing saloon. They will chose the most expensive haircut even if it doesn't fit them. Your example of buying Mac is not luxury but buying something necessary to enhance your productivity.
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March 11, 2024, 04:43:20 PM
#90
It is not that I am against luxury life but what is matters very important is that you should life a life bakes on your income don't because of someone is living a luxury life you decide to emulate and follow his step of life so it is not good unless that you have way calculate your income weekly and the monthly before you can live an expensive life,

It is obvious that expensive life is good and is also meant for people who knows their income weekly and the monthly because it is something that deals with expensive life so therefore I believe that luxury is based on your income it is not something that what emulate because it is a life of individual difference
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March 11, 2024, 04:35:01 PM
#89
Luxury is a desire, not a need... Yet, it cannot be denied that nowadays luxury has become a necessity that we feel obliged to have. Especially as public figures, in order to be respected by other people, sometimes we have to appear a little eccentric and a little luxurious... because nowadays most people judge by their outer appearance alone. But this applies to certain people...if we ourselves as ordinary people just adapt to the situation, the important thing is that the appearance is decent and not embarrassing. Don't let it happen that just because we want to look extraordinary and appear luxurious in front of other people, we sacrifice all of our savings to buy luxury goods, just to fulfill our desires and prestige.

And it would be better if we focused more on improving ourselves and the skills we have, so that we can continue to generate profits to achieve true financial freedom. Because it's useless to look luxurious, but when you go home you look like a destitute person.
Luxury is never a need, but always a want that any person can always live and survive even without hitting luxury in life. However, living with some luxuries is never bad as long as you’re able to provide it for yourself, but if you are trying hard just to provide luxury, well that’s another story, you might end up getting drown into debt in order to satisfy other people.

My point is just live your life simply and accordingly. Productivity does not care whether you are using cheap or luxurious item, because if you really want to be productive, you have to dig it deep inside you, you have to be knowledgeable and skillful as one should be, and you shouldn’t be procrastinating things, that way the rate of productivity will be high. Having an expensive and luxurious machine or gadget is just a bonus.
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March 11, 2024, 12:48:44 PM
#88
Here people's interest takes priority. I have seen that even a normal family people use good and high quality products. Although they have little money there, they try to use good things. I can never consider it as a luxury because they can buy good products or services for their needs, it is very normal. But if one cannot ensure its proper use after purchasing more than necessary goods then it can be a luxury. I have seen some people in my local area who give priority to quality and there are many who have wealth but can't choose good things.
I agree, why offer people a life that would be terrible just so they could have some money, when we do not tell that to rich people? I have never seen people say big corps like apple or tesla or whatever end up paying a lot more based on their revenue and not their profit (they can hide their profit) but I have seen a lot of people suggest we should stop buying coffee from outside.

Why am I making my coffee at home to profit, when those rich companies are making tens of billions of dollars? They can pay for all our coffee, and we would pay less tax, and that way we can afford it. Stop looking at the few luxury stuff in regular people's life, and start looking at people who does space travel just for fun and no improvement at all.
Yes, it is also what the free market means as well IMO. Yes, it may not be "fair" but the market is not called fair market, it is called free market and you are just as allowed to make what they make as well. Nobody prevents you from doing what they do, and that means it's free for all. That freedom has a cost, which means that the ones who do not want to aim at just purely making money, will end up not being as rich, and eventually realize that they are not going to do well.

Doesn't matter if you are right wing or left wing, the poor stays poor, that never changes. This is why it is going to be quite terrible for anyone to just not focus on money, they will end up with having financial issues on the long run anyway.
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March 11, 2024, 06:44:07 AM
#87

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

I think that luxury is very good and if anyone can afford it then let them go for it, afterall they say that life is short and we should make the most of it while we can, but I also think that it'll be foolishness if someone is going for luxury items that they can not afford. If an average income earner wants to go for a luxury upgrade of their gadget because it'll add value to their work and make it more effective, then it'll make economic sense, but if they go for an upgrade that they can't afford because it's a trend, then again I'll still call it foolishness. In conclusion I think that people should live bellow their income, so that they can be able to have money to invest and save for the future, let them go for the luxury that they can afford.
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March 11, 2024, 05:59:10 AM
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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

Let's start by defining what luxury is ?
If we talk about MacBook, it is not luxury, it is a clever marketing and nothing more Smiley Because this platform does not have any distinct advantages or unique characteristics that could objectively "elevate" it above other similar devices. Who can refute ? Smiley
Luxury is really unique, not available to mass consumers, goods or services that have really unique properties against the background of other products. And such items have their own circle of consumers. Believe me - a ragamuffin with the latest iPhone looks not luxurious but ridiculous and stupid. And with a high probability, if the iPhone is real and not a Chinese fake, it is either bought on credit, which will drive the owner into debt for many months, or stolen Smiley. So for an ordinary person to talk about luxury is probably silly, because such a person is not a member of the community where it is accepted and where they can afford it.
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March 10, 2024, 06:10:23 PM
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Yes. Environment can change someone, but still, just understand that these things can be done without money, so it is better to use what you have at the moment because you cannot force yourself to buy something because your friends or people who are close to you bought that thing. However, the laptop is for your job, which is not bad, but just know that all these things cannot be done without the funds, although I can't argue with you that high-quality things are good things, and if we have money, we will buy them.
Mature people need to being mindful of financial resources and not succumbing to peer pressure or societal expectations when it comes to spending money. Responsible financial management and making thoughtful decisions about spending habits are important things for financial stability in the future. Those emphasize the importance of prioritizing needs, avoiding unnecessary expenses driven by external influences, and being content with what you already has.

Environment can influence someone's spending habits and desires, especially when surrounded by friends or acquaintances who may have certain possessions or lifestyles. That's why it's important to use what you have at the moment rather than feeling pressured to spend money on things simply because others have them. This implies the value of prioritizing needs over wants and being content with what one already possesses. Certain purchases may seem desirable, but not everything can be obtained without sufficient funds. This pragmatic approach encourages individuals to make informed decisions based on their financial capabilities. A balanced perspective recognizes the value of quality while also being mindful of financial constraints.
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March 10, 2024, 05:42:12 PM
#84
You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Luxury is definitely a necessity, especially nowadays when most of us here (and I don't mean to offend anyone or whatever) have devolved to being mindless consumers of capitalism, like myself! We've been hardwired by society to enjoy and be satisfied with consuming expensive shit, and while it's also nice and dandy to live on top of a mountain and be a monk all your life surrendering all earthly tethers and possessions, the average joe would choose a material world instead.

I always say, money and time wasted on having fun and enjoying your time here in the planet is no wasted time at all. If that makes you have fun and appreciate living in this polluted planet a little bit, then by all means hoard all the macbooks you can get and enjoy every single expensive cuisine you can buy. No one has any rights to tell you what to do with your money. You slaved for it, you worked hard for it, it's only fair that you reward yourself with something fulfilling afterwards.

It's good and all to be contended, but us humans strive in innovation and stepping up. If stepping up requires you having the latest gadgets and buying the most expensive shit out there, by all means.
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March 10, 2024, 05:40:11 PM
#83
What might be luxury to you might only be a necessity to others. And as you say, you became more productive with that Macbook, therefore making it pay for itself in the long run if you are doing quality work that rewards you with good money. I'd say it is one of your expenses although at a somewhat higher price point. It only becomes luxury if it's something that you seldom use and only for vanity purposes. That Macbook serves you well, so it's not a luxury anymore to you.

I've never bought anything pretty expensive other than printers and computers that I need for my business. I never considered the latest printer a luxury but rather a business expense that helped me make more money in the long run.
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