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March 08, 2024, 12:31:47 PM
#42
Luxury for its own sake is not a bad thing.  But luxuries beyond one's means certainly bring bad things.  Money should always be respected.  And should count.  If your income is 1000$ then you can spend 500$ but if your income is 500$ and if you spend 1000$ it will definitely not bring you anything good.  You can indulge as much as you can afford.  Luxury is not a bad thing It is definitely not bad to do something good for yourself or live a good life or live a life of luxury.  But it should be within your own capacity.  If you live a life of luxury beyond your means, this luxury will lead to your downfall instead of teaching you good things.
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March 08, 2024, 11:58:41 AM
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"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similiar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.
I don't know where you live, but MacBook is a luxury stuff in third world countries, many people bought it for no reason. In my country there's a group in my country that only for the rich can enter the group. In order to join them, you need at least iPhone 13. Also colleagues in the company where I work only want to be a friend with Apple user, it give pressures to other people to buy it without any reason, just in order to gets excommunicated.

I also live in a third world country and will save to buy a MacBook if it is what I need to be more productive. It is possible that I would make more money that I spent on the laptop if I start putting it in good use. Like d5000 stated there is a clear difference between spending on luxurious products and a high quality one. If I have the option of buying a cheaper phone but I decide to buy an expensive one because of peer pressure or competition, that's luxury. But if I need the expensive phone because it has a feature that I need to perform a profitable task, then it is not luxury but a need. I had a personal experience when the phone I had didn't have enough capacity to install a software I need to to perform a task. Although I had no need for a new phone but I had to raise funds to get a more expensive phone. Some persons might assume that I bought the phone for luxury, meanwhile it was purely for business.
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March 08, 2024, 11:53:46 AM
#40

Correct, but MacBook is better in terms of survivability (battery life), lightweight and smooth experience, it's why Macbook is better for business.
In terms of battery life MacBook is the best but talking about productivity it's really not and I wonder what really mentioned that it helped him in his life?

And we have to accept the fact that we use apple product more of our financial state than it's actual utility even one of my friend who is into business not really an apple ecosystem guy but he have been asked by why are you having Android that forced him to buy an apple just for the sake of avoiding that question.

Have you ever used macbook pro M1, M2, M3? If you've ever used them, I bet you won't find a laptop with better performance than them. Agree that people use Apple products mainly for their luxury rather than for work needs. But it cannot be denied that their expensive products are products of outstanding quality.

I have an iPhone 7 and up to now, other than replacing the battery, I have almost never had to have it repaired, nor have I encountered lag or lag like other old Android phones . Everything still runs smoothly but it's just a bit out of step with society. For me, everything has its price, there will be no cheap product with outstanding quality.
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March 08, 2024, 11:01:14 AM
#39
Never indulge in luxury in life. Spend only as much as you need. Luxury is related to income and demand as our income increases, the number of luxuries will continue to increase. Because human demand has no end it keeps on increasing. But even if there is ever a need for luxury goods or services, the more affordable the better. And I think that if the amount saved is used for the benefit of humanity, the total productivity of the country will increase as well as our peace of mind. Every human being in the world has a conscience and judgment and they try to fulfill their needs accordingly.
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March 08, 2024, 10:58:23 AM
#38
My PC could be the only thing that I spent way too much money on, and thankfully my boss helped me for it as well, so I wasn't the only one buying it however I end up using it mostly for work as well. To be fair I do watch movies on it too, why not do that but I have a smart TV that I use to watch stuff too, so my PC is mostly for working. Would I consider it luxury? Well I could have bought a lot cheaper stuff too of course, like whatever is the cheapest PC there is, but then in a few years I would have to buy another, and then another, and then another. Instead, I bought one that has been working like a brand new PC for the past 1.5 years, and I assuming that with little bit of care, it will work for many more years, if any part gets broken, I could just change that, which would be cheaper than replacing the whole thing.
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March 08, 2024, 10:14:35 AM
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There are dozens of good and productive laptops that are many times more convenient than a Macbook. Luxury is a beautiful watch from Rolex or a cool Rolls-Royce car, but can this be compared to a gadget?
I also agree with those who prefer quality, but you can get it by spending reasonable money. In your case, OP, buying a Macbook was just a waste of money, the difference from which, if you bought a different brand of laptop, could be spent on another necessary thing.
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March 08, 2024, 10:03:23 AM
#36
From what i understand, you meant having the taste for luxury, which makes you want to work harder so that you can get more money to afford those luxurious things. Well, it works for most people. You need to have a high taste to chase a high dream, I know for sure. When you start seeing life beyond taking 3 square meals a day, playing video games, and other daily little activities, you will understand that it goes beyond just that. Traveling, going on tours, visiting recreational places like the zoo, taking vacations, being a public figure, and all that shite.

But these things don't just come so easily. If you were not born with a silver spoon, you need to kick your ass day and night at whatever you are doing so that you can reach the level to be able to afford these things with ease. I am not saying you have to work and put your money straight into living such a life; I am saying that you need to work and build a system—a cash flow system—that generates money for you when you don't even work. Only at this level can you easily afford these things without running dry.
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March 08, 2024, 09:59:25 AM
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That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

As other members have mentioned that there is very big difference between the high-quality and luxurious stuff like I believe that if one time is luxury and it is important for you and for your work so there is no problem with buying that high quality and luxury stuff because it is important for you and one thing besides this I would not buy it until I am comfortable to buy it like when I feel I can buy it three to four time more till then I would like to use my old version stuff that I am using.

these kinds of things help you to complete your work quickly these can be an expensive laptop or mobile or whatever you use or need for your work. The best is that firstly we need to focus on growing up till we can afford it comfortably till then we should survive with our old version stuff. Dear what do you say aout that? Must share your opinion over this many thanks!
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March 08, 2024, 09:53:00 AM
#34

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

On your example, you are mixing luxury to high quality because there’s a lot of items that is cheap yet provides a quality that same with luxury items. For example, LV bags is definitely luxury but there’s other manufacturers that can provide same quality materials in cheaper price because they don’t have the brand name. Luxury items become “luxurious” because of their brand and not only due to their quality. Luxurious brand mark up their items exponentially since they are confident with their brand.

With that being said, You should be aiming for high quality item not for luxurious item because other brand can give same quality and comfortable without paying more for the brand names. Don’t be a victim of marketing scheme. Not all luxurious item is high quality some them is just there due to their established brand.
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March 08, 2024, 09:44:59 AM
#33
According to your explanation, it's ascertained that you didn't go for a luxury laptop but one of it that has the capacity to be productive to you by delivering your taxes.
Don't get anyone misleaded because your expression is a misquote.
You can go for luxurious items hence it is affordable and doesn't depreciates your incomes to unproductive outcomes but going after luxurious lifestyles that doesn't profer you worth than your expenses is a useless one.
Everyone wants to grow from their incomes in life but some are over carried away my adopting luxuries as lifestyle meanwhile they struggles to build or maintain reliable financial portfolios while some strives on strictly luxuries to attain luxurious incomes to boosten their incomes portfolios.
Let's be guided.
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March 08, 2024, 09:12:36 AM
#32
I do not care to pay for quality and if it is something that I can use to generate a income with.

Let's take your vehicle as an example... You need a reliable mode of transport to get to work.. not something that will fail to start every morning when you have to go to work, so for that reason I will pay more for a more reliable car.
I think when it comes to necessity, one should go for high quality so that you can take the utmost advantage from the item, and you can use it for its purpose to where it suits best. However, there are high quality items that are not that expensive and ultimately luxurious for us. As long as it can be reliable to aid in your job, and productivity won’t be compromised, then there’s no reason to go for the most expensive one. But honestly, one should not go to the cheapest item as well as for sure its sustainability and quality will be at risk. You don’t want to waste your time and money aiming for the cheapest one and after days or months, the item can no longer serve you anymore.

it's up to you how you look for high quality products that offer a cheap price to save more. If you ask me, I would also prefer to invest in good and high quality products because I am sure that I can use them for a long time, unlike the ones with the price but after you buy it, there will be problems and the worse will be broken immediately, and when it's broken, you need to have it repaired or replaced. If you calculate the costs you spent on repairing the damaged item compared to the price of an item that's a bit pricey but in good quality, the price of both of them is not too far apart.
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March 08, 2024, 06:33:48 AM
#31
Macbook or any laptop for productivity isn't a luxury but it's an investment to be considered because you'd use that for your job and tasks which will earn you money. Luxury are things that you don't really need but you are able to purchase it extravagantly like you have tons of spare money and you have nothing to use for that. I'd go for the high quality things that I'll need for my productivity but I'll avoid spending money on luxurious things that I may just be disappointed later on because it has the same purpose as my other thing. Things like a macbook, despite being expensive but it's proven to be worth the purchase because you can use that for several years before you upgrade again.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I think a car and also with devices as you've exampled it with computers and laptops. Those folks that are living in a country where commute is toxic, they'd rather purchase an expensive car and treat it as an investment because it is giving them convenience while they travel. We know that cars do depreciate over time but the value and convenience that it provides you is worth the buck. There's a lot to justify that but many of the members here live in a country where they have a better public transport and they don't see having cars as something productive but just rather an expensive stuff and luxury.
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March 08, 2024, 06:15:46 AM
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I do not care to pay for quality and if it is something that I can use to generate a income with.

Let's take your vehicle as an example... You need a reliable mode of transport to get to work.. not something that will fail to start every morning when you have to go to work, so for that reason I will pay more for a more reliable car.
I think when it comes to necessity, one should go for high quality so that you can take the utmost advantage from the item, and you can use it for its purpose to where it suits best. However, there are high quality items that are not that expensive and ultimately luxurious for us. As long as it can be reliable to aid in your job, and productivity won’t be compromised, then there’s no reason to go for the most expensive one. But honestly, one should not go to the cheapest item as well as for sure its sustainability and quality will be at risk. You don’t want to waste your time and money aiming for the cheapest one and after days or months, the item can no longer serve you anymore.
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March 08, 2024, 05:19:51 AM
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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

When a person buys items of high quality which are ofcourse of an outrageous price just to boost productivity, I do not see it as a luxurious lifestyle. The purpose is clearly stated which is "to boost productivity". Most people who chase luxury have no purpose aside boosting their self esteem, showing off their wealth and social status. It is necessary to state that, not all items of luxury are of high quality. The fact that you bought a particular item at a higher price does not mean it will be of higher quality or more durable than the one with a lesser price. Luxury is all about your purchasing power, if you can afford it, why not?

I do not chase luxury but if I want to boost my productivity and make my work easy and more efficient, I will go for the best item regardless of the price I'm going to pay for it. We do not need to bargain on things that are obviously of necessity to us, those who are chasing after luxury spend a lot in acquiring things are not one of their basic necessities.
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March 08, 2024, 05:00:38 AM
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Correct, but MacBook is better in terms of survivability (battery life), lightweight and smooth experience, it's why Macbook is better for business.
In terms of battery life MacBook is the best but talking about productivity it's really not and I wonder what really mentioned that it helped him in his life?

And we have to accept the fact that we use apple product more of our financial state than it's actual utility even one of my friend who is into business not really an apple ecosystem guy but he have been asked by why are you having Android that forced him to buy an apple just for the sake of avoiding that question.
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March 08, 2024, 04:54:23 AM
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So far, maybe like laptops and smartphones, I feel they are quite expensive necessities that are my current needs. Apart from that, vehicles such as cars too. However, I think it doesn't have to be a good one, but still I feel that a car is something expensive.
However, if it is a necessity, then no matter whether it is expensive or not, then we need to work on it. This has reasons, such as smooth work, and others. However, it would be different if we spent money on something expensive, but we rarely use it. so I feel that it is a luxurious life, and spending quite a lot of money on something that we don't necessarily use. However, for necessity, I think it is a natural thing.
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March 08, 2024, 03:55:51 AM
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Of course, this doesn't just talk about satisfaction in playing, but more about the functionality and speed of the work devices we use when we work. If a YouTuber or worker who works with visual graphics really needs high specs for maximum results

However, there are also weaknesses when we download applications that are not native and that we have to download for work requirements, usually some are compatible and some are rejected by our device's system and the application is considered a virus because it is not genuine or uses a default application.
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March 08, 2024, 03:29:17 AM
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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Yeah I bought a branded motorcycle myself way back 2017 with my profit in crypto and never regreted that decision to be honest as it performs and help us very well as our everyday use with my extended family and does not gave us headaches when it comes to maintenance. I also bought a branded watch and cellphone that performs great. I am a guy that do not sacrifice quality over price or quantity but that means a lot of savings to me of course. I am not a rich guy but yeah this forum help me that much fund those things. Those things are not totally a liability because I needed all of them with my job so maybe it's worth my investment.
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March 08, 2024, 02:53:27 AM
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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Goods are indeed expensive, but when they increase our performance in a more productive direction, I really agree because basically what we buy has its own benefits, even though for other people, for example, these goods are useless because our needs and other people's needs are different. So in this case the luxury category or not is not a specific benchmark but rather a necessity that is required personally or formally from superiors or in order to speed up the work process. I am honest about the demands of the world of work and have more or profitable results after the increase. For example, in job competition, the demand to produce work needs to be supported by several things which automatically make us incur additional costs, if the result is profit then it becomes a necessity.
So, if there is another option that is cheaper but provides the same value as expensive goods, then as a businessman you will take the first option, which is cheap but has the same output. Even if the margin is small, it goes back to the long-term or short-term needs that we want to target.
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March 08, 2024, 02:15:19 AM
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There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.
Some people feel satisfied buying luxury goods with proven quality so that they use the goods more easily and are needed, while other people think that using luxury goods is only for the needs of being in a certain environment. The level of effectiveness of use cannot be measured by expensive prices because there are some people who see the quality of goods as supporting their use.

The problem is people who have low sources of income but insist on buying expensive items, even though they don't have the financial resources to support them. The level of needs must be adjusted to abilities and if it is forced then it is not the right choice because it actually adds new problems.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Usually we buy goods according to existing finances and generally the goods purchased can be used for work needs. For example, buying a laptop and I see more usage needs even though the price is slightly higher. Because if you buy a laptop according to your work needs, it can make your work easier to do.
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