Topic: When will Religions die? - page 16. (Read 20330 times)
I think, Religions won't ever disappear, they will just evolve as society grows and changes
The religions are already dying a natural death. Look at the western nations. A majority of the population is either atheist, agnostic or non-religious. Even in the oriental nations such as China and Japan, the situation is the same.
maybe its safe to say these are the end of days, something extra ordinary needs to happen to restore peoples faith 
Christianity Not Dying Out, but Atheism Is in Danger
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christianity-not-dying-out-but-atheism-is-in-danger-due-to-contraception-study-reveals-177551/
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A new study has countered some perceptions that Christianity around the world is on the decline and could be dying out, by pointing out that religious people are having more children than atheists.
The study, titled "The Future of Secularism: a Biologically Informed Theory Supplemented with Cross-Cultural Evidence" specifically tackled perceptions among social scientists that religious belief is on the decline.
Researchers from the U.S. and Malaysia studied over 4,000 students, asking them about their religious beliefs and how many siblings they had, and found that Malaysian atheists had 1.5 fewer siblings than the average, though in the U.S. the gap was narrower.
The experts found that non-religious children from the U.S. came on average from parents who had 3.04 children, compared with the 3.2 in the general population.
The findings, published in the Evolutionary Psychological Science international journal, correlated with other studies which found that Muslims are the most fertile and religious group. Christianity and almost all other religions had a positive association with parental fertility as well, however.
"While cross-sectional in nature, when our results are combined with evidence that both religiosity and fertility are substantially heritable traits, findings are consistent with view that earlier trends toward secularization (due to science education surrounding advancements in science) are currently being counter-balanced by genetic and reproductive forces," the study explained.
It also foresees a decline in secularism, due to the reliance on contraception contributing to lower birth rates, which it traced back to industrial developments.
"By the mid-19th century, scientific discoveries had moved to a point that human reproduction was sufficiently well understood that fertility rates began to be impacted, especially in the emerging industrial countries," it read.
The researchers predicted that "secularism is likely to undergo a decline throughout the remainder of the 21st century, including Europe and other industrial societies."
"It is ironical that effective birth control methods were developed primarily by secularists, and that these methods are serving to slowly diminish the proportional representation of secularists in forthcoming generations," they added.
The Independent reports that some might argue that having religious parents doesn't necessarily mean that their children will grow up with the same beliefs, but other studies have shown that religion is indeed heritable to an extent.
The study, titled "The Future of Secularism: a Biologically Informed Theory Supplemented with Cross-Cultural Evidence" specifically tackled perceptions among social scientists that religious belief is on the decline.
Researchers from the U.S. and Malaysia studied over 4,000 students, asking them about their religious beliefs and how many siblings they had, and found that Malaysian atheists had 1.5 fewer siblings than the average, though in the U.S. the gap was narrower.
The experts found that non-religious children from the U.S. came on average from parents who had 3.04 children, compared with the 3.2 in the general population.
The findings, published in the Evolutionary Psychological Science international journal, correlated with other studies which found that Muslims are the most fertile and religious group. Christianity and almost all other religions had a positive association with parental fertility as well, however.
"While cross-sectional in nature, when our results are combined with evidence that both religiosity and fertility are substantially heritable traits, findings are consistent with view that earlier trends toward secularization (due to science education surrounding advancements in science) are currently being counter-balanced by genetic and reproductive forces," the study explained.
It also foresees a decline in secularism, due to the reliance on contraception contributing to lower birth rates, which it traced back to industrial developments.
"By the mid-19th century, scientific discoveries had moved to a point that human reproduction was sufficiently well understood that fertility rates began to be impacted, especially in the emerging industrial countries," it read.
The researchers predicted that "secularism is likely to undergo a decline throughout the remainder of the 21st century, including Europe and other industrial societies."
"It is ironical that effective birth control methods were developed primarily by secularists, and that these methods are serving to slowly diminish the proportional representation of secularists in forthcoming generations," they added.
The Independent reports that some might argue that having religious parents doesn't necessarily mean that their children will grow up with the same beliefs, but other studies have shown that religion is indeed heritable to an extent.
Thank you CoinCube for the voice of reason.
So many of these so called atheists refuse to even look at hard numbers and try to argue merely from the point of their feelings.
I can also recommend work of Eric Kaufmann (himself an agnostic), who did a lot of research on the subject, concluding that the world is in fact undergoing DEsecularization since atleast 1990. Perhaps, thats why we have so many hateful people on bitcointalk. Their gut feeling tells them, that the world they took for granted is slowly changing.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/shall-the-religious-inherit-the-earth-by-eric-kaufmann-1939316.html
It's hard for a religion to end, people will always believe in something therefore they finish with our own existence.
You are right its not going to end because without this we are not to exist-est its helping humans in many ways and its also killing many peoples need to talk about this on table
It's hard for a religion to end, people will always believe in something therefore they finish with our own existence.
Religions in the modern world are no longer so important as they were before, and I think that they will soon disappear. Now much is explained by science and people simply do not need religion.
There are so many people who believe in religion. And these people will always be. It's just such a mentality for some people. It is very important for them to believe in something. They like to strive for something just because religion approves of it
Do not be obsessed with money? But how? God will not pay my bills, he will not buy me food and will not give my children clothes. We live in a society where the extraction of money has become a very important part of life. Maybe this can be called a religion. Religions will never die, they will just update and change
Christianity Not Dying Out, but Atheism Is in Danger
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christianity-not-dying-out-but-atheism-is-in-danger-due-to-contraception-study-reveals-177551/
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A new study has countered some perceptions that Christianity around the world is on the decline and could be dying out, by pointing out that religious people are having more children than atheists.
The study, titled "The Future of Secularism: a Biologically Informed Theory Supplemented with Cross-Cultural Evidence" specifically tackled perceptions among social scientists that religious belief is on the decline.
Researchers from the U.S. and Malaysia studied over 4,000 students, asking them about their religious beliefs and how many siblings they had, and found that Malaysian atheists had 1.5 fewer siblings than the average, though in the U.S. the gap was narrower.
The experts found that non-religious children from the U.S. came on average from parents who had 3.04 children, compared with the 3.2 in the general population.
The findings, published in the Evolutionary Psychological Science international journal, correlated with other studies which found that Muslims are the most fertile and religious group. Christianity and almost all other religions had a positive association with parental fertility as well, however.
"While cross-sectional in nature, when our results are combined with evidence that both religiosity and fertility are substantially heritable traits, findings are consistent with view that earlier trends toward secularization (due to science education surrounding advancements in science) are currently being counter-balanced by genetic and reproductive forces," the study explained.
It also foresees a decline in secularism, due to the reliance on contraception contributing to lower birth rates, which it traced back to industrial developments.
"By the mid-19th century, scientific discoveries had moved to a point that human reproduction was sufficiently well understood that fertility rates began to be impacted, especially in the emerging industrial countries," it read.
The researchers predicted that "secularism is likely to undergo a decline throughout the remainder of the 21st century, including Europe and other industrial societies."
"It is ironical that effective birth control methods were developed primarily by secularists, and that these methods are serving to slowly diminish the proportional representation of secularists in forthcoming generations," they added.
The Independent reports that some might argue that having religious parents doesn't necessarily mean that their children will grow up with the same beliefs, but other studies have shown that religion is indeed heritable to an extent.
The study, titled "The Future of Secularism: a Biologically Informed Theory Supplemented with Cross-Cultural Evidence" specifically tackled perceptions among social scientists that religious belief is on the decline.
Researchers from the U.S. and Malaysia studied over 4,000 students, asking them about their religious beliefs and how many siblings they had, and found that Malaysian atheists had 1.5 fewer siblings than the average, though in the U.S. the gap was narrower.
The experts found that non-religious children from the U.S. came on average from parents who had 3.04 children, compared with the 3.2 in the general population.
The findings, published in the Evolutionary Psychological Science international journal, correlated with other studies which found that Muslims are the most fertile and religious group. Christianity and almost all other religions had a positive association with parental fertility as well, however.
"While cross-sectional in nature, when our results are combined with evidence that both religiosity and fertility are substantially heritable traits, findings are consistent with view that earlier trends toward secularization (due to science education surrounding advancements in science) are currently being counter-balanced by genetic and reproductive forces," the study explained.
It also foresees a decline in secularism, due to the reliance on contraception contributing to lower birth rates, which it traced back to industrial developments.
"By the mid-19th century, scientific discoveries had moved to a point that human reproduction was sufficiently well understood that fertility rates began to be impacted, especially in the emerging industrial countries," it read.
The researchers predicted that "secularism is likely to undergo a decline throughout the remainder of the 21st century, including Europe and other industrial societies."
"It is ironical that effective birth control methods were developed primarily by secularists, and that these methods are serving to slowly diminish the proportional representation of secularists in forthcoming generations," they added.
The Independent reports that some might argue that having religious parents doesn't necessarily mean that their children will grow up with the same beliefs, but other studies have shown that religion is indeed heritable to an extent.
Religions in the modern world are no longer so important as they were before, and I think that they will soon disappear. Now much is explained by science and people simply do not need religion.
There are so many people who believe in religion. And these people will always be. It's just such a mentality for some people. It is very important for them to believe in something. They like to strive for something just because religion approves of it
Religions in the modern world are no longer so important as they were before, and I think that they will soon disappear. Now much is explained by science and people simply do not need religion.
There are so many people who believe in religion. And these people will always be. It's just such a mentality for some people. It is very important for them to believe in something. They like to strive for something just because religion approves of it
Religions in the modern world are no longer so important as they were before, and I think that they will soon disappear. Now much is explained by science and people simply do not need religion.
Nearly 50% are of no religion – but has UK hit ‘peak secular’?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs
Quote from: Harriet Sherwood
The secularisation of Britain has been thrown into sharp focus by new research showing that for every person brought up in a non-religious household who becomes a churchgoer, 26 people raised as Christians now identify as non-believers.
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It paints a picture of a Britain in which Christianity has seen a dramatic decline – although figures suggest a recent bottoming out in recent years. The avowedly non-religious – sometimes known as “nones” – now make up 48.6% of the British population. Anglicans account for 17.1%, Catholics 8.7%, other Christian denominations 17.2% and non-Christian religions 8.4%.
But, the “growth of no religion may have stalled”. After consistent decline, in the past few years the proportion of nones appears to have stabilised. “Younger people tend to be more non-religious, so you’d expect it to keep going – but it hasn’t. The steady growth of non-Christian religions is a contributing factor, but I wonder if everyone who is going to give up their Anglican affiliation has done so by now? We’ve seen a vast shedding of nominal Christianity, and perhaps it’s now down to its hardcore.”
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Bullivant identifies a generational shift in terms of education and religious affiliation. Among older nones, a high proportion had degree-level education. But the nones’ above-average levels of higher education fade further down the age groups. Thus the non-religious have the lowest levels of degree-level education among 25- to 34-year-olds and 35- to 44-year-olds. (The proportion of graduates is highest among Catholics and the non-Christian religions, he notes.)
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Although religious affiliation is declining in western Europe and north America, there is significant growth in other parts of the world. Islam is expected to become the world’s largest religion by 2075, and Christianity is booming in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and China.
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It paints a picture of a Britain in which Christianity has seen a dramatic decline – although figures suggest a recent bottoming out in recent years. The avowedly non-religious – sometimes known as “nones” – now make up 48.6% of the British population. Anglicans account for 17.1%, Catholics 8.7%, other Christian denominations 17.2% and non-Christian religions 8.4%.
But, the “growth of no religion may have stalled”. After consistent decline, in the past few years the proportion of nones appears to have stabilised. “Younger people tend to be more non-religious, so you’d expect it to keep going – but it hasn’t. The steady growth of non-Christian religions is a contributing factor, but I wonder if everyone who is going to give up their Anglican affiliation has done so by now? We’ve seen a vast shedding of nominal Christianity, and perhaps it’s now down to its hardcore.”
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Bullivant identifies a generational shift in terms of education and religious affiliation. Among older nones, a high proportion had degree-level education. But the nones’ above-average levels of higher education fade further down the age groups. Thus the non-religious have the lowest levels of degree-level education among 25- to 34-year-olds and 35- to 44-year-olds. (The proportion of graduates is highest among Catholics and the non-Christian religions, he notes.)
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Although religious affiliation is declining in western Europe and north America, there is significant growth in other parts of the world. Islam is expected to become the world’s largest religion by 2075, and Christianity is booming in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and China.
Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
I think it is not the religion that makes the damage but the actions of some people who do the destruction that bring their religion, because all religions teach the good and do not teach the damage. Religion is a guide to life after death, religion will disappear after doomsday
All religion have a mixture of both in their holy books...
The Old Testament is full of murder, rape, genocide, pillaging... all done in the name of god... god commands it... and if read by a random person, they might get the wrong idea
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/
Quote from: the "holy" bible
Exodus 21:15 - Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.
Exodus 22:17 - You should not let a sorceress live.
Leviticus 20:10 - If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.
Deuteronomy 17:12 - Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.
Zechariah 13:3 - If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
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Exodus 22:17 - You should not let a sorceress live.
Leviticus 20:10 - If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.
Deuteronomy 17:12 - Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.
Zechariah 13:3 - If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
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The list goes on and on... this is some rather abhorrent behavior... anyone reading this stuff could go on a murdering rampage thinking god commanded it...
The bible is a dangerous book to leave laying around where children might read it!
Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
I think it is not the religion that makes the damage but the actions of some people who do the destruction that bring their religion, because all religions teach the good and do not teach the damage. Religion is a guide to life after death, religion will disappear after doomsday
Religion is dying out in America: Just 18% of people 60 and younger attend church and less than 50% believe in God
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3497755/Religion-dying-New-study-finds-just-18-percent-people-60-younger-attend-church-50-believe-God.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3497755/Religion-dying-New-study-finds-just-18-percent-people-60-younger-attend-church-50-believe-God.html
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Religious affiliation and belief in God has dropped in developed countries
It was thought that US was an exception, but data reveals this isn't the case
New study shows each generation is less religious than the one before it
Around the world, people are beginning to turn their backs on religion.
For some time, researchers have observed this trend as it ripples through developed countries, with the United States standing out as the exception.
Now, a new study reveals this is no longer the case; with each passing generation, Americans too are steadily becoming less religious.
... (click link for more) ...
It was thought that US was an exception, but data reveals this isn't the case
New study shows each generation is less religious than the one before it
Around the world, people are beginning to turn their backs on religion.
For some time, researchers have observed this trend as it ripples through developed countries, with the United States standing out as the exception.
Now, a new study reveals this is no longer the case; with each passing generation, Americans too are steadily becoming less religious.
... (click link for more) ...
No, I mean it's been around for longer than any other documented organized thought to my knowledge. Some of the olders books in the wolrd are religious texts! It's crazy when you think about how old some of those text are truly.
Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?
Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?
First of all I am agree to your statement. Religion could Die!
Logically speaking, Religion is always accompanied in one's life, even you do not have God that is also a religion.
If you will understand my statement more deeper, you can conclude that if there is No human existing, it is the only time where religion finally die.
religion will never die unless people lose the faith.
I dont think religion will die. Religion is the relationship to the one who created us. Until there is someone who has faith or believe in God there is religion.
I don't think so.
When you read Bible, you see that first people, Adam and Eve, before Fall, didn't need religion.
They could communicate and live with God directly.
Since the fall, we lost our connections with God.
Because of it, we need religion in order to re connect with God.
We need help in order to find God again.
When new Heaven, new Jerusalem, comes down on the earth, we will be united with God again and religion will not be necessary any more.
I agree with first reply on this thread ( first line). Because most of all religion teach human beings about peace not to fight. There are some people who are using religion to grow there wealth and their image.
I totally disagree with " religion will end". Because I believe god has created religions not humans. There are many religion which are thousands of year old.
I totally disagree with " religion will end". Because I believe god has created religions not humans. There are many religion which are thousands of year old.
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It has NOTHING to do with the thread topic... I've already warned you several times to stop derailing this thread with your personal vendetta... I'm going to report your bullshit to the mods
It has NOTHING to do with the thread topic... I've already warned you several times to stop derailing this thread with your personal vendetta... I'm going to report your bullshit to the mods
Sometimes I feel sorry for the mods. The topic of this thread is when will Religions die?
The simple answer is that they never will the demographics heavily favor the religious and apostasy is self limiting.
I have posted data to this effect above. You challenged with your National Geographic article. Okurkabinladin posted a very nice counter to that article recently so I decided to copy that here.
All of this is very much on topic.
I am sorry challenging your biases so upsets you.
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