Topic: When you win does someone else have to lose. - page 5. (Read 831 times)
Someone with that particular trade need fiat (to buy something) or stable coin (for furder speculation), and someone needs crypto at that particular price (mostly for speculation). It is good to have liquidity on both sides. If you buy high and sell low then you are in loss, if you buy low and sell high you are in profit. Nobody knows what will come with tomorrow. Sometimes you make good choice, sometimes bad choice.
What's meaning of trading? we buy and we sell, there are some people really smart on analysis and some people who only use their lust. We can't blame our self for their losses of course.
Whenever I trade and make a profit, does someone else lose?
For example, I've been watching an altcoin market for three years and knew that a certain currency always triples in value going from x to 3x in a couple of months. Having spare money avaliable I put some in to test the strategy and I'm close to my 3x at the moment.
My question is, whenever I trade and make a profit is there always going to be someone who's made a loss or is this an odd way of thinking? Could it be that these people are losing a small amount of money or that these people are buying a coin by going (I'll put 10% in that) so as to not really matter if it profits or. Loses as it generated a stable ish value.
For example, I've been watching an altcoin market for three years and knew that a certain currency always triples in value going from x to 3x in a couple of months. Having spare money avaliable I put some in to test the strategy and I'm close to my 3x at the moment.
My question is, whenever I trade and make a profit is there always going to be someone who's made a loss or is this an odd way of thinking? Could it be that these people are losing a small amount of money or that these people are buying a coin by going (I'll put 10% in that) so as to not really matter if it profits or. Loses as it generated a stable ish value.
What is the essense of winning if no one loses? Ofcourse there will always be a loser if somebody would become a winner. Its the same concept use in the market. If you get a better price for the trade, it means that someone miscalculated the event. Same with the manipulators who are the winner and the panic sellers who are always the losers.
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If you can win, other people will lose. That is what happens in trading, gambling, and other fields. But there is not just you who could win because there are more people who can win also and I think that the profit will be different too. So I think that is natural and I think you cannot always make a profit because the situations will change especially if you are making a mistake in your analysis so other people will replace your position to take the profit.
I would say it is perspective dependant, what view you are willing to take results with a particular outcome.
Like in this example below, Pursuer sees two winners, someone else may see two losers because they have depraved themselves of future possible profits and lost 500,1000 bucks respectively etc. That would be my stance in a way, I do not believe in fiats any more, for me any exchange from crypto is a loosing situation. All I want is bitcoin to become a legal tender, so exchanges can go obsolete.
Like in this example below, Pursuer sees two winners, someone else may see two losers because they have depraved themselves of future possible profits and lost 500,1000 bucks respectively etc. That would be my stance in a way, I do not believe in fiats any more, for me any exchange from crypto is a loosing situation. All I want is bitcoin to become a legal tender, so exchanges can go obsolete.
secondly, the market is so much more complicated than that. for example imagine price that is rising from $3000 to $4000. if I buy at $3000 and sell at $3500 to you whom will sell at $4000 we have both made profit and there is no "loser" here.
Winning usually comes from competition. And in any competition there is a winner or loser. Soooo probably yeah, there's bound to soneone who will lose. No hard feelings. It's one or the other. Both competitors, in any field, do their best to claim victory and there always has to be one victor.
In this scene that we are working right now ( specifically cryptos ) there is no competition here . there is no need to rush because the game here is about waiting .
the longer you wait the higher chance that you will earn more but this also depends on the coin of your choice . not all coins can rise and pump in the longer run , only top coins such as bitcoin , eth , bch and others are the ones that have the potentiall to do this .
@op yes its true. When some one sells at high others hodlers loose because the value can suddenly go down but this will still recover if the hodler has a patient to wait .
i think you might be misunderstanding the metaphor. it is true that in a market during trading when you make profit someone else is losing but it is not literal.
it is mainly saying that in a market there are always some people who are losing and some who are winning. there doesn't have to be an equality between the two groups and it has nothing to do with price rise or fall either. we may have more losers during rises than we have during falls!
it is mainly saying that in a market there are always some people who are losing and some who are winning. there doesn't have to be an equality between the two groups and it has nothing to do with price rise or fall either. we may have more losers during rises than we have during falls!
Winning usually comes from competition. And in any competition there is a winner or loser. Soooo probably yeah, there's bound to soneone who will lose. No hard feelings. It's one or the other. Both competitors, in any field, do their best to claim victory and there always has to be one victor.
Whenever I trade and make a profit, does someone else lose?
For example, I've been watching an altcoin market for three years and knew that a certain currency always triples in value going from x to 3x in a couple of months. Having spare money avaliable I put some in to test the strategy and I'm close to my 3x at the moment.
My question is, whenever I trade and make a profit is there always going to be someone who's made a loss or is this an odd way of thinking? Could it be that these people are losing a small amount of money or that these people are buying a coin by going (I'll put 10% in that) so as to not really matter if it profits or. Loses as it generated a stable ish value.
Thats the logical concept behind crypto currency price movement and what will determine if someone actually make losses while you did a profitable trading is the trend which the poses. Besides, if we are in bullish market trend and you intend to sell your holding cause you comfortable with your profit no one will make loss which the market usually increase every seconds but if we are in bearish market trend if someone make a profitable trade then somebody somewhere will definitely make loses. For example, I've been watching an altcoin market for three years and knew that a certain currency always triples in value going from x to 3x in a couple of months. Having spare money avaliable I put some in to test the strategy and I'm close to my 3x at the moment.
My question is, whenever I trade and make a profit is there always going to be someone who's made a loss or is this an odd way of thinking? Could it be that these people are losing a small amount of money or that these people are buying a coin by going (I'll put 10% in that) so as to not really matter if it profits or. Loses as it generated a stable ish value.
Someone would lose if the market is not good.
The pump and dump is a classic example where a trader might loss his money, those who are smart can do it with timing but those
who got hype only might end up a bag holder. That's my example and I have experience of this in the early stage.
The pump and dump is a classic example where a trader might loss his money, those who are smart can do it with timing but those
who got hype only might end up a bag holder. That's my example and I have experience of this in the early stage.
first of all "win or lose" is not a one time, one order thing. it is a long term thing that is the aggregate of all the actions you have ever taken or in the market all the orders you have executed. so you may lose money in one trade but make a lot in the other or vice versa. for example that is how a lot of newbies lost a lot of money (upto 90% of their investment) during past 2 years just because they thought they were "winning" because of a couple of shots in the dark that gave them profit during 2017.
secondly, the market is so much more complicated than that. for example imagine price that is rising from $3000 to $4000. if I buy at $3000 and sell at $3500 to you whom will sell at $4000 we have both made profit and there is no "loser" here.
secondly, the market is so much more complicated than that. for example imagine price that is rising from $3000 to $4000. if I buy at $3000 and sell at $3500 to you whom will sell at $4000 we have both made profit and there is no "loser" here.
For me no because it's part of the game which you will win only if you have certain coin to trade and you will experience lose as well unless if you trade on uncertain coin. It's not a battle actually and its not about how lucky you are which is its all about how you play and your strategy to handle the situation.
Whenever I trade and make a profit, does someone else lose?
yes, if not then where does the money (profit) come from? someone has to pay for it.
it might not be a direct form of losing money,it could be a profit left on the table which the other person/s left for you. it's a bit hard to break down but just remember that every cent of profit you make is someone else's loss.
If the price does not always increase, the loser is absolute. Maybe the trader who sold you got it from lower price, but its equivalent was in the past. That is the rule of trade and there is no escape from it.
Of course, someone should have to win and someone should have to lose but don't just think it badly since both of you are in that field since trading is just like gambling. Both of you accepts the risk of winning and losing it's the nature of a cycle, so in order to get what you want you must have to give it first.
Trading method has build up with this strategy and we can't do anything with that mate. its a system where one make smart profits and another person lose from his side. Buyer and sellers are the most important factor of trading. The thing which makes the difference is the knowledge of trading. As much as you have experience about crypto trading as much as possibilities you got to win.
Every buyer and seller apply their own tricks to be successful on their trade. I think its not a matter of winning or losing. Its a matter of applying great strategies where winners always get his reward for his best strategy.
Every buyer and seller apply their own tricks to be successful on their trade. I think its not a matter of winning or losing. Its a matter of applying great strategies where winners always get his reward for his best strategy.
Although the logical answer seems to be yes, that someone loses so that you win, this is very relative if we only refer to the cryptocurrencies themselves, without taking into account their value in fiat, because what is really done in an exchange is the exchange of something that you have with someone who wants to possess what you offer. If you offer a bitcoin and you agree that someone exchange it for 10 ethers, everyone got what they wanted through a conscious and voluntary exchange. If at the time of exchange that cryptos for cash there is a noticeable difference, that is independent of the action itself of the exchange made.
There are always winners & losers in life jackg, man. You have to grow a thick skin & not give a shit.
Try & make sure that you’re always coming out as the winner & that relates to everything else not just crypto.
Tip - HODL your bitcoin’s for another 2-3 years & you’ll be a very wealthy man. Only losers are selling in bulk now.
Try & make sure that you’re always coming out as the winner & that relates to everything else not just crypto.
Tip - HODL your bitcoin’s for another 2-3 years & you’ll be a very wealthy man. Only losers are selling in bulk now.
People who invested for the long run have always had an opportunity to sell higher, but it all comes down to patience. In most cases people here are very short term minded, so they tend to lose more than they make profit.
I have been accumulating coins between the $6000-$7000 mark, which technically means that those who I bought the coins from did a better job than me due to my paper losses, but I don't sell anything so I don't lose.
If you also add that I accumulated coins well under the $4000 mark, my average buying price came down significantly, which means that I don't need $6000 levels to break even on paper. Again, patience is everything.
I have been accumulating coins between the $6000-$7000 mark, which technically means that those who I bought the coins from did a better job than me due to my paper losses, but I don't sell anything so I don't lose.
If you also add that I accumulated coins well under the $4000 mark, my average buying price came down significantly, which means that I don't need $6000 levels to break even on paper. Again, patience is everything.
The thing with trading cryptocurrency or digital assets trading and maybe every other type of trade is trading like a cycle and circle. You think someone's losing, he waits a little while and profits too... And if the next person is as smart as the system they'll keep it going, however, if someone gets greedy or cocky then they hit a rock.
So the real answer is obvious someone becomes a loser at some point.
So the real answer is obvious someone becomes a loser at some point.
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