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Topic: Where do you stand on abortion? Let's have a civil debate. - page 8. (Read 2040 times)

newbie
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I'm Very Very Disagree About Abortion, Cause Human Have Right For Life... If You Allow Abortion, You Will Breaking The Human Right
sr. member
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I believe the abortion may happen only for 3 reasons:
1) the child has a serious anomaly, incompatible with life.
2) the woman was raped
3) it can cause the death of a mother

I agree with all those you listed tho number 2 with become even more problematic with the "believe wamen" culture we have now. Now there's more incentive for the woman to claim rape upon breakup with her boyfriend. Not only did she think she "got even" but she'll also get a legal abortion - likely paid for by the taxpayer as well.

And just in case you think claiming rape in an unmarried relationship is ridiculous, there is such a thing as "marital rape".

Killing a person is murder. A fetus or unborn is a person, or prove that it is not... don't just adjudicate that it is not.

If a pregnancy isn't wanted, don't have sex. Are you 100% sure your protection will work? If it doesn't, don't become a murderer.

The best bet is to get married before sex, and act like you are going to raise a family, even if your protection works.

The aborted, murdered kid might have been you.

Cool

In short, get off the c**k carousel, right?  Grin

I remember seeing a vid saying 1 out of 5 men who took paternity tests found out they are not the father.
sr. member
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Okay, this is a very sensitive topic.

I've made my stance on abortion not by seeing on the options but from instinct and my inner beliefs.

I'm someone who you would call as pro-life. But I don't support that there should be shootings in abortion clinics. I don't support a complete ban on abortions either.

Lemme explain my stance : I've been against abortion even before I knew there was a debate and terms like pro-choice/pro-life existed.

Why am I pro-life?
I believe that abortion is the killing of a potential human being. No matter how you define it, it's a living being which is killed and it is pure and hasn't committed any, any crime.

Now, when do I support abortion?
1) Rape cases. 2) Cases where the mother's life is in danger. 3) Cases where the parents "literally" can't afford to have the baby. (although I believe adoption is a very good option).

Lemme explain point 3.
In this point am talking about really really really poor couples who did a one night stand and can never really afford a baby. Althought I believe, adoption is a good choice.

When do I believe abortion should happen in of the above cases?
Within first four weeks. The exception is mother's life in danger.

Within first four weeks, given a "reasonable" reason, one can abort by saying "it's just a fetus".

Sure.

Where do I disagree with pro-choice people?

"My body, my choice, I can abort my baby for any reason or no reason at all, as long as it is in my womb, even at 8 months"

I disagree with this ideology as much as I disagree with the ideology of pure murder, rape and genocide.

Girl, maybe it's your body. But, after a few weeks that fetus also acquires a moral right.
One can't simply say, a 8.5 months old fetus is just a mere clump of cells, it is as much human as a 9 month old born baby.

Also, really, you can abort your 8 months old baby in womb for whatever reason you want? Who are you? Queen?

Now, I know, these cases are rare. Where they abort a 8 month old fetus for mere reason.
But again, this is not a debate of what happens. This is a debate between ideologies. If you believe "a girl has the right to abort a baby for whatever reason they like as long as it's in womb" then I disagree with you completely. Because that won't make it pro-choice, rather pro-abortion!

And my position isn't from religion but from my own conscience. Smiley

Comment what's your opinion Smiley

Yes I agree with you with only one reason why stand for abortion?
this is when the mother life is in danger.
but for me still not the reason to abort baby.you made it so you should accept the consequence you made.

I know that the mother who's life is in danger is not her fault to make some decission like for abortion but you make think it twice first.
have faith in God.and believe that God can save you and the baby even you are in danger.
In my belief what ever acceptable reason you made for abortion in God is not.abortion should not exist.
For the mother who carry her child with your blood can you allow your baby to die.if its yes? What kind of a mother of you.

In this case if the mother choose is to abort well you can not be!
 by the law of people and by the law of God abortion is murderer.
legendary
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^^^ If the to-be-aborted baby made a choice, what would it be? Wouldn't it be life? I mean, look at how fast the kid grows in the first 9 months of life, in Mommy's tummy.

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jr. member
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Yeah we can't allow people to say everything is their own choice to make. Otherwise, people would've behaved veryvery ruthlessly and the world may not be able to.contain us all. Same way people can't say it's their body and so they can decide to take it out anytime. Consider this, why do we say it's illegal to sell any of your body parts or organs other thanfor a donation?
legendary
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The problem is both the people and government. But here is what we can do about government.

Monty Python - Constitutional Peasants Scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng


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copper member
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If the baby could survive outside of the womb, there is no legitimate reason to need an abortion.

No, you cannot do whatever you want with your body. This is no different than laws against a person using their fist (part of your body to punch someone in the face, except the consequences of an abortion are much worse to the victim.

If the fetus can survive outside of the womb, the baby can be delivered early and taken care of.

If there is a reason why you don’t want to have a baby, and you end up pregnant, you need to make a decision quickly. There is no reason to delay getting an abortion until the baby is born as some on the left want to be legal and common.

Couldn't agree more! Specially on the part that if through fetus is viable, there's no reason to abort it. Pro-choicers would consider even a viable fetus as a parasite and will support abortion on it which I consider murder Smiley
The governor of Virginia was talking on radio several months ago about allowing abortion up until immediately prior to birth, and if the baby survived and was born alive, the baby would be killed.

I can’t imagine how anyone could possibly think that is okay. I also imagine this would be unconstitutional under the due process clause in favor of the baby.

I think in most cases, you should not get an abortion if you are pregnant, but I think it is a very fair compromise to limit abortion to until the baby is viable in its own. I am interested to hear an argument that would oppose this viewpoint.
newbie
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I completely agree that abortion is a murder. He or she is an innocent child, that did nothing bad in his life. I don’t know how can the woman say it’s their body and they can do everything what they want. From the day you understand that you are pregnant it’s not only your body. The child don’t have to suffer just because you don’t know how to protect yourself during sex.

I believe the abortion may happen only for 3 reasons:
1) the child has a serious anomaly, incompatible with life.
2) the woman was raped
3) it can cause the death of a mother

The other reasons are not accepted!
full member
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If the baby could survive outside of the womb, there is no legitimate reason to need an abortion.

No, you cannot do whatever you want with your body. This is no different than laws against a person using their fist (part of your body to punch someone in the face, except the consequences of an abortion are much worse to the victim.

If the fetus can survive outside of the womb, the baby can be delivered early and taken care of.

If there is a reason why you don’t want to have a baby, and you end up pregnant, you need to make a decision quickly. There is no reason to delay getting an abortion until the baby is born as some on the left want to be legal and common.

Couldn't agree more! Specially on the part that if through fetus is viable, there's no reason to abort it. Pro-choicers would consider even a viable fetus as a parasite and will support abortion on it which I consider murder Smiley
copper member
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Amazon Prime Member #7
If the baby could survive outside of the womb, there is no legitimate reason to need an abortion.

No, you cannot do whatever you want with your body. This is no different than laws against a person using their fist (part of your body to punch someone in the face, except the consequences of an abortion are much worse to the victim.

If the fetus can survive outside of the womb, the baby can be delivered early and taken care of.

If there is a reason why you don’t want to have a baby, and you end up pregnant, you need to make a decision quickly. There is no reason to delay getting an abortion until the baby is born as some on the left want to be legal and common.
sr. member
Activity: 546
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Killing a person is murder. A fetus or unborn is a person, or prove that it is not... don't just adjudicate that it is not.

If a pregnancy isn't wanted, don't have sex. Are you 100% sure your protection will work? If it doesn't, don't become a murderer.

The best bet is to get married before sex, and act like you are going to raise a family, even if your protection works.

The aborted, murdered kid might have been you.

Cool

I think this is the problem these days. Sex is not a scared activity of two different genders that is done after marriage. Most of the time, it is an entertainment, an activity done to spend time and money. And if someone got pregnant, it is an "ACCIDENT" for them, get an abortion, is the escape route, that is the worst. I hate abortion and those people that are so thirsty to sex that can't even take the consequences after that.
member
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I see abortion as a sin but when people don't want kids they leave them it to orphans so their life will be not good and some countries orphanages don't have enough food as well so why struggle through their whole life so it is better to abort if they decide about not want to have a kid now.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
Killing a person is murder. A fetus or unborn is a person, or prove that it is not... don't just adjudicate that it is not.

If a pregnancy isn't wanted, don't have sex. Are you 100% sure your protection will work? If it doesn't, don't become a murderer.

The best bet is to get married before sex, and act like you are going to raise a family, even if your protection works.

The aborted, murdered kid might have been you.

Cool
full member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 133
Okay, this is a very sensitive topic.

I've made my stance on abortion not by seeing on the options but from instinct and my inner beliefs.

I'm someone who you would call as pro-life. But I don't support that there should be shootings in abortion clinics. I don't support a complete ban on abortions either.

Lemme explain my stance : I've been against abortion even before I knew there was a debate and terms like pro-choice/pro-life existed.

Why am I pro-life?
I believe that abortion is the killing of a potential human being. No matter how you define it, it's a living being which is killed and it is pure and hasn't committed any, any crime.

Now, when do I support abortion?
1) Rape cases. 2) Cases where the mother's life is in danger. 3) Cases where the parents "literally" can't afford to have the baby. (although I believe adoption is a very good option).

Lemme explain point 3.
In this point am talking about really really really poor couples who did a one night stand and can never really afford a baby. Althought I believe, adoption is a good choice.

When do I believe abortion should happen in of the above cases?
Within first four weeks. The exception is mother's life in danger.

Within first four weeks, given a "reasonable" reason, one can abort by saying "it's just a fetus".

Sure.

Where do I disagree with pro-choice people?

"My body, my choice, I can abort my baby for any reason or no reason at all, as long as it is in my womb, even at 8 months"

I disagree with this ideology as much as I disagree with the ideology of pure murder, rape and genocide.

Girl, maybe it's your body. But, after a few weeks that fetus also acquires a moral right.
One can't simply say, a 8.5 months old fetus is just a mere clump of cells, it is as much human as a 9 month old born baby.

Also, really, you can abort your 8 months old baby in womb for whatever reason you want? Who are you? Queen?

Now, I know, these cases are rare. Where they abort a 8 month old fetus for mere reason.
But again, this is not a debate of what happens. This is a debate between ideologies. If you believe "a girl has the right to abort a baby for whatever reason they like as long as it's in womb" then I disagree with you completely. Because that won't make it pro-choice, rather pro-abortion!

And my position isn't from religion but from my own conscience. Smiley

Comment what's your opinion Smiley
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