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Quote from: uneng on August 05, 2021, 06:43:25 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on August 05, 2021, 06:21:55 PM

Ive seen most people here say that its just easy to quit without needing other people but when they are on the situation then for sure they cant guarantee that they could get rid of gambling addiction.This is something that you cant really be sure that you would able to solve gambling addiction on your own without the help of others specially if the said addiction is already severe.You can definitely ask help from your loved ones
but there are people who are really ashamed on asking out some help from their loved ones but we dont really have any option because they are the only ones who could help next would be
professional help if it turns out not to be that effective.

The initiative must comes from the addicted individual, otherwise it will be a big waste of time and money. The family, relatives, friends or doctors can't force someone to stop gambling. Only the gambler can take the decision and only then ask for his loved ones' help. There are cases of addicted people who were sent to rehabilitation for long periods, but without any positive effect, since it was the family which was forcing this situation and not the addicted person who wanted to go by himself. Family can help by incentivizing the gambler to seek for help, but if it doesn't happen it's not their fault at all.

In short, its not an assurance that they could help you off but it isnt really a harmful thing for you to try and as long you do have the money or your family to spent off on seeking professional help
then i dont see any problem on it but if you are really avoiding possible expenses more then you could eventually solve out that addiction by yourself if you do just really ready to accept such changes.
but this wont really be an easy thing to be resolved out because if people do have different mindset and awareness the there would be no addicted person that we would able to see.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on August 05, 2021, 05:56:18 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

You mean they were encouraging him to gamble more, but he quit nevertheless?

Omg, this would be epic. No, i meant that i know cases where relatives were like "You will never recover loser" and this person with a second breath was like "I will show to all of you that I can beat this problem"

Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

There are examples of kids of alcoholics or drug addicts never taking drugs or drinking excessively despite their parents' "examples". Again, it's rare, but it's possible. Such people are real heroes in my eyes.

Yeah, my good friend is against alcohol and drugs mostly because of his father who fell under alcohol addiction

A friend of mine has the same case. His parents are addicted to drugs that they weren't able to work to sustain his studies but he made a different path by making studying possible on his own. He didn't try drugs even once. It still depends on an individual. We could change our future by creating a better path. Gambling addiction couldn't be cured easily yet we can take small steps to correct our actions.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 06, 2021, 06:32:39 AM

Oh, I see, you meant they were not supportive, and pessimistic about his ability to quit. That's actually not that bad. Much better than being encouraged to gamble, or being ignored at all.

Understood.
When I read some dudes posts where they tells that spent 10-20 % of the income on gambling - i'm sure that they have such kind of family

Quote from: Betwrong on August 06, 2021, 06:32:39 AM

People, especially your close ones, often say "You will never succeed" actually hoping that you will.

Maybe you have a point here. But sometimes they just don't care.

Anyway, as i said above, really good family will force you to go to specialists.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on August 05, 2021, 05:56:18 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

You mean they were encouraging him to gamble more, but he quit nevertheless?

Omg, this would be epic. No, i meant that i know cases where relatives were like "You will never recover loser" and this person with a second breath was like "I will show to all of you that i can beat this problem"

Oh, I see, you meant they were not supportive, and pessimistic about his ability to quit. That's actually not that bad. Much better than being encouraged to gamble, or being ignored at all. People, especially your close ones, often say "You will never succeed" actually hoping that you will.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

There are examples of kids of alcoholics or drug addicts never taking drugs or drinking excessively in spite of their parents' "examples". Again, it's rare, but it's possible. Such people are real heroes in my eyes.

Yeah, my good friend is against alcohol and drugs mostly because of his father who fell under alcohol addiction

Fortunately, this is far from being a rare case. Kids these days are much better than their parents in many ways(I mean, mine included

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Quote from: Mahanton on August 05, 2021, 06:21:55 PM

Ive seen most people here say that its just easy to quit without needing other people but when they are on the situation then for sure they cant guarantee that they could get rid of gambling addiction.This is something that you cant really be sure that you would able to solve gambling addiction on your own without the help of others specially if the said addiction is already severe.You can definitely ask help from your loved ones
but there are people who are really ashamed on asking out some help from their loved ones but we dont really have any option because they are the only ones who could help next would be
professional help if it turns out not to be that effective.

The initiative must comes from the addicted individual, otherwise it will be a big waste of time and money. The family, relatives, friends or doctors can't force someone to stop gambling. Only the gambler can take the decision and only then ask for his loved ones' help. There are cases of addicted people who were sent to rehabilitation for long periods, but without any positive effect, since it was the family which was forcing this situation and not the addicted person who wanted to go by himself. Family can help by incentivizing the gambler to seek for help, but if it doesn't happen it's not their fault at all.

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Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

There several places where people are wallowing in gambling addiction,finding it difficult to get help.Many have been stigmatized through loss and failure,and are seeking help,but couldn't get help because they are leaving in an environment where help is rare.It is imperative and dutiful for government world wide to provide help at where there is none,including the nooks and crannies of our society.

If the addicted people to gambling feel it is difficult to get help, they do not want to share their addiction with other people so they can not help that person right away. People can not get close to them if they do not open themselves to accept other people so they are only getting deeper with their addiction. Maybe that is the government's job to give attention to those people, but if those people are not aware of what happened, the government can not help.

Ive seen most people here say that its just easy to quit without needing other people but when they are on the situation then for sure they cant guarantee that they could get rid of gambling addiction.This is something that you cant really be sure that you would able to solve gambling addiction on your own without the help of others specially if the said addiction is already severe.You can definitely ask help from your loved ones
but there are people who are really ashamed on asking out some help from their loved ones but we dont really have any option because they are the only ones who could help next would be
professional help if it turns out not to be that effective.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

You mean they were encouraging him to gamble more, but he quit nevertheless?

Omg, this would be epic. No, i meant that i know cases where relatives were like "You will never recover loser" and this person with a second breath was like "I will show to all of you that i can beat this problem"

Quote from: Betwrong on August 03, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

There are examples of kids of alcoholics or drug addicts never taking drugs or drinking excessively in spite of their parents' "examples". Again, it's rare, but it's possible. Such people are real heroes in my eyes.

Yeah, my good friend is against alcohol and drugs mostly because of his father who fell under alcohol addiction

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 03, 2021, 09:25:00 AM

Quote from: michellee on August 03, 2021, 08:59:19 AM

Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

There several places where people are wallowing in gambling addiction,finding it difficult to get help.Many have been stigmatized through loss and failure,and are seeking help,but couldn't get help because they are leaving in an environment where help is rare.It is imperative and dutiful for government world wide to provide help at where there is none,including the nooks and crannies of our society.

If the addicted people to gambling feel it is difficult to get help, they do not want to share their addiction with other people so they can not help that person right away. People can not get close to them if they do not open themselves to accept other people so they are only getting deeper with their addiction. Maybe that is the government's job to give attention to those people, but if those people are not aware of what happened, the government can not help.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 03, 2021, 01:36:33 PM

It is always good to recognize that there is a problem, that is the first step, the affected person should not feel any kind of shame, I think that if the person does not want to go to such a specific help center what they should do as the first option and What is seen as normal is to go to a psychologist, a couple of sessions to test, the problem may be solved, and that the person has the help of his friends, but real friends, not friends who take him to others vices, in which case it does not work for you, if it is good to go to those special help centers for players.

It is incredible, but many people find refuge in religions, some get addicted to being in religion, whether they are evangelicals, or any other, there are many options, it all depends on the desire of the person to want to get out of the problem, but Help is imperative because it is for the well-being of both the person and the affected family.

It is hard to cure a person with gambling addiction if he to himself couldn't admit that there's a problem to him. The first thing that must be consider is to site the problem and explain it to the concern person and let himself diagnosed himself that there's a certain problem that he need to resolve. Then, seek help to the institutions that provide a cure for this kind of issues. There should be a great support that must come to his family and friends and let him know that he is not alone so he will be inspired and motivated to recover from his addiction.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 03, 2021, 09:25:00 AM

Quote from: michellee on August 03, 2021, 08:59:19 AM

Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

There several places where people are wallowing in gambling addiction,finding it difficult to get help.Many have been stigmatized through loss and failure,and are seeking help,but couldn't get help because they are leaving in an environment where help is rare.It is imperative and dutiful for government world wide to provide help at where there is none,including the nooks and crannies of our society.

Would really be needing some certain budget for that part and it would vary if government would really be that in concern into its citizens when it comes to gambling addiction.

There are indeed places on this world on where services like this arent present or not possible but honestly it isnt really that much needed if you can able to help yourself in the first place.Although,

we do know that not all would successful realized and get rid of their own addiction on which they would really be needing other help from others or from professionals.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 03, 2021, 09:25:00 AM

Quote from: michellee on August 03, 2021, 08:59:19 AM

Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

There several places where people are wallowing in gambling addiction,finding it difficult to get help.Many have been stigmatized through loss and failure,and are seeking help,but couldn't get help because they are leaving in an environment where help is rare.It is imperative and dutiful for government world wide to provide help at where there is none,including the nooks and crannies of our society.

It is always good to recognize that there is a problem, that is the first step, the affected person should not feel any kind of shame, I think that if the person does not want to go to such a specific help center what they should do as the first option and What is seen as normal is to go to a psychologist, a couple of sessions to test, the problem may be solved, and that the person has the help of his friends, but real friends, not friends who take him to others vices, in which case it does not work for you, if it is good to go to those special help centers for players.

It is incredible, but many people find refuge in religions, some get addicted to being in religion, whether they are evangelicals, or any other, there are many options, it all depends on the desire of the person to want to get out of the problem, but Help is imperative because it is for the well-being of both the person and the affected family.

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Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

There several places where people are wallowing in gambling addiction,finding it difficult to get help.Many have been stigmatized through loss and failure,and are seeking help,but couldn't get help because they are leaving in an environment where help is rare.It is imperative and dutiful for government world wide to provide help at where there is none,including the nooks and crannies of our society.

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Quote from: sree0910 on July 27, 2021, 09:13:36 AM

Gambling addiction is a serious condition that needs to be treated as early as possible. Many countries have already started to realize the dangers of problem gambling, so they've created several gambling addiction centers and self-exclusion services that aim to cure addiction and keep gambling an entertaining activity. According to this complete list of gaming addiction centers , Canada is one of the leading fighters against gambling addiction, and they've already helped millions of Canadian gamblers solve their problems and take back their lives. Hope it helps!

That is available in Canada, but how about in the other countries? I do not know if the other countries will have a good place to rehabilitate the addicted person to gambling. But suppose the other countries can learn from the leading country that fights against gambling addiction and build a better rehabilitation for the addicted people to gambling. In that case, it will help many people who have the same problem. That can reduce the number of addicted to gambling, and the government will be happy to see that gambling addiction is not a problem in their country.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on July 30, 2021, 05:33:39 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 30, 2021, 05:10:51 AM

But it is also true that the support from our close ones plays a very important role in our recovery overall.

I know at least one example, where a person recovered not because of help and support of relatives but in opposition to them. Grin

So relatives is of course important moment which differs for people: to some people it can be decisive argument and for someone it is not.

You mean they were encouraging him to gamble more, but he quit nevertheless? That would be a very rare case, but, well, nothing is impossible in the realm of one's own decisions. There are examples of kids of alcoholics or drug addicts never taking drugs or drinking excessively in spite of their parents' "examples". Again, it's rare, but it's possible. Such people are real heroes in my eyes.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 30, 2021, 05:10:51 AM

But it is also true that the support from our close ones plays a very important role in our recovery overall.

I know at least one example, where a person recovered not because of help and support of relatives but in opposition to them. Grin

So relatives is of course important moment which differs for people: to some people it can be decisive argument and for someone it is not.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 22, 2021, 03:47:44 PM

It's the best help because they'll also be helped by their families.

Often family can't help with that problem: your relatives don't have needed qualification and psychological skills to influence on you. As result - it's more like nothing will change. People need help of specialists with high qualification.

Correct, it is obvious that our families are going to have our best interests at heart and they are going to want to help you if you were in that situation but unfortunately while their support is critical for the recovery of a person that is addicted to anything at the same time it is not everything, it is better to let the processionals handle this, after all they have been dealing with people with problems like this for a long time and they know what it is need to help them to turn their lives around.

That's right, this is exactly why we need help from professionals: not only they were dealing with similar problems many times themselves, and thus were getting experience, they also have access to very valuable medical statistics and data, to which we, regular people, either don't have access to, or can't understand what it means.

But it is also true that the support from our close ones plays a very important role in our recovery overall.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 23, 2021, 07:22:48 PM

Even if you're getting all the external or internal help.

As you said, the gambler isn't serious with how he's eradicating his addiction, then that won't be use. The cooperation of the gambler himself is needed.

So that he can beat addiction with or without those help.

This is why the first step when it comes to get out of any addiction that you could have is to admit you have it, there are many people that have problems with alcohol and drugs and even if they know they have problems they do not recognize this fact, and without that there is no therapy or amount of love any family could have for this person that could help them as they are not willing to help themselves to get out of the situation they are in, in which case it is best to left them to their own devises until they recognize this truth.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 23, 2021, 06:35:18 PM

Morally, they're helping you to get out of gambling addiction.

Important note: They're trying to help you to get out. Sometimes, it can get worse with their "help". Just because they're not specialists.

Quote from: boyptc on July 23, 2021, 06:35:18 PM

Having to know that they are there to help you get out from it and will also be supporting you to seek professional help, that's really a big help for someone who's struggling with gambling addiction.

Nah. Many people just trying to keep gamble rather to find professionals and doctors. The main purpose of you relatives is to find such doctors for you.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on July 23, 2021, 07:56:33 PM

For those who are aware that they are addicted, what you said can work. But for those who don't realize that they are addicted already, it doesn't work at all. They are even not aware if they have a problem with addiction. How they can accept their addiction in this situation? Of course, they need helps from other people. Especially their close friends or family members. They must remind the addicts to have a special treatment to deal with it. And trying to correct the addict's habit gradually. This is something that cannot be done alone. Trust me, buddy! It is not as simple as you think.

Which in some cases only few were aware on the things that they seemed to be used to do especially if they going to say on themselves that they were already a gambling addict. Sometimes it is good that your friends could tell you that you've been enjoying in gambling which I think could be a start to analyze in yourself if you're really into gambling and this way you could assess yourself and maybe the self-awareness thing about gambling will arise and the self-acceptance of what you could do to cure is possible in an early stage.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 24, 2021, 03:58:32 PM

^ That would probably be the outcome, but I think we should practice this attitude not to keep secret regarding your activity daily or the daily habit. We should open to tell them if we are often gamble because if there is a time that you are beyond your limit there is someone who could give advice and talk to you. Because we know that addiction is just a silent killer, you don't know that you are addicted to gambling but you can sense that you are addicted base on your action and it could be people new you will give some advice.

In this case, honest means very important also. If we are going to help someone in addiction (that cannot control their addiction), it is true that we need to ensure he or she trusts us. Because many of them may be worried about being honest to others if they are addicted to gambling. Giving them trust, understanding, and also hope that they can get out of the addiction or at least control it slowly. Because of that, I said it was necessary to repetition in helping them. It cannot be done once twice, but continuously.
And this can easily happen if they want to be honest and aware of their own situation.

But what is rather difficult will be when they don't feel if they are addicted, they don't want to be honest both in yourself and others, and they have done a harmful thing, then we don't need to wait for them to ask us. But we need to go to them to be aware of their condition (if we really know it). And of course, this will be a little difficult because surely they will feel disturbed, angry, dislike, or offended. Because of that, we need caution and the right way for them.

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