You are insulting a lot of us @LoyceV LOL
I'm okay with that.
Check
the most active posters. Currently, the top 5-24 is completely filled with only Stake signatures:
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Stake doesn't care who they hire, as long as they post a lot (of BS). Their spam was called out
5 years ago, and it's still going.
They actually do. If they wouldn't then you wouldn't see me, yahoo, ognasty and some others in their campaign.
I'm not impressed. Money talks.
For a large campaign like Stake it's not always easy.
So? Nobody said it should be easy, it's a paying job. And if the one doing it can't handle it, he should be replaced.
Their weekly budget can easily be over $5k. With this budget they have mix of good and bad posters.
This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Hiring spammers is a choice, and if anything, it's caused by paying too little money for too many posts.
mix of highly reputed members and average members. Problem with high rep members that they will not chase a certain weekly target, you can not force them to fill up the weekly target even with a very high weekly payment but the average members don't mind to chase the weekly target. So Stake is just balancing between number of posts, cost per week and individual reputation.
That's a long way to describe "spamming".
The cost per posts is the most priority for Stake manager (at least I got the impression when I had a discussion with her) which is why many times you find a lot of spammers but overall I think the campaign is doing fairly well.
You seem to be heavily biased by the fact that they pay you. I'd expect much higher standards from you as a campaign manager.
I admire you but a manager does not only think about one side. For a manager there are three sides to consider.
1. The forum
2. His clients
3. His own business reputation
You are right, Stake is paying me for my signature space and considering the current ecosystem, they are paying me a good amount per week, I am in their VIP list with some others. It's a respect and honour. I appreciate the value they see to spend on me and some others. But that does not challenge my integrity even a bit less. When any advertiser is giving you VIP value, they know well about you and your work in the community. People just don't spend money without a reason except may be Foxpup LOL.
Besides, I don't think I have a record to speak only for the clients who pay me, when necessary. There were many incidents in the past where I rejected payments (= loss of money), stopped campaigns (=loss of money), rejected working for projects (= loss of money) because they did not meet my standard. It would look nicer if you were adding some of these too. The argument would look more fair. Obviously money talks but it does not talk the same for everyone.
But let's keep it aside, thing is you are not a campaign manager so it's difficult for you to understand the work of a campaign manager. As an outsider it's easy to tell anything you want. When you are in the job, it's way more difficult than you think, if you tell something then you are telling things from your own experience but you are missing it. I welcome you as one of us managers competitors. How many more years you are going to spend posting for signature payments and merit recycling club? :-P
Anyway, all those you said sounds nice in an ideal world but in a practical world where you are spending hard cash, it is different.
1. When a project is paying money they are looking at their gains, the ROI.
2. When you - as a campaign manager is working in a campaign you are looking at the well being of the forum members, the clients and your business.
If all these were easy to handle then we would see everyone would become campaign managers including you LOL
I respect your views of an ideal campaign management but don't expect a campaign manager needs to see things the way you see. They have their own eyes, they have their own working style and own success stories. It's nice if we respect it.
Stake is not different too in that regards. Yes, they can improve but it does not look good when you are disrespectful towards their works.
Cheers,