I’d be more inclined to trust a casino that requires KYC. One of the reasons they might require KYC is due to regulatory pressures from governments that require them to comply with rules to offer services in that country.
A casino that is doing everything to try and be a reputable business is mote trustworthy in my opinion. Obviously nothing is guaranteed though.
Topic: Which casino would you trust more: one that requires KYC or one that doesn't? - page 3. (Read 843 times)
June 16, 2024, 08:51:31 AM
hero member
Activity: 2912
Merit: 541
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
June 16, 2024, 08:42:33 AM
I will do KYC if the casino have good reputation among the other casino and that casino have license. That casino should asks their members to do KYC instead to asks that when their members wins much money. Their customer will see that the casino wants everything transparant so the casino asks their members doing KYC to make sure that they will not have a problem. Many casino now asks for KYC so we will difficult to finds the casino without asking KYC.
Even if that exist, we must be careful and make sure that the casino have good reputation or not because many casinos can turn becomes scam. If the casino promote that they don't require KYC, we must asks about that to make sure with contacting their support system so we can knows if they are not asking KYC, even if we wins much money. But if they tells that there are a limitation for their members to free from KYC, that will be up to us to continue or search for the other casino.
Even if that exist, we must be careful and make sure that the casino have good reputation or not because many casinos can turn becomes scam. If the casino promote that they don't require KYC, we must asks about that to make sure with contacting their support system so we can knows if they are not asking KYC, even if we wins much money. But if they tells that there are a limitation for their members to free from KYC, that will be up to us to continue or search for the other casino.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 538
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
June 16, 2024, 08:27:16 AM
If a casino is trusted overall this is only secondary to me.
Me personally, I'm lucky enough to live in a country that is allowed through most KYC'd services so KYC doesn't bother me.
The issue however is when a provider isn't trustworthy. What happens for example if the Terms of Service are updated one day to exclude my country and therefore I'm banned from my winnings because I didn't follow the rules? If a provider wants to cheat you out of winnings they could do it. So first of all to me overall trust of a gambling provider is number one. If they have minimum proven disputes it's the best for me.
Light KYC also doesn't bother me even as a prerequisite. Non-KYC casinos often have worse odds in sports gambling so I'd make a small sacrifice to be able to earn more long term if I win.
Me personally, I'm lucky enough to live in a country that is allowed through most KYC'd services so KYC doesn't bother me.
The issue however is when a provider isn't trustworthy. What happens for example if the Terms of Service are updated one day to exclude my country and therefore I'm banned from my winnings because I didn't follow the rules? If a provider wants to cheat you out of winnings they could do it. So first of all to me overall trust of a gambling provider is number one. If they have minimum proven disputes it's the best for me.
Light KYC also doesn't bother me even as a prerequisite. Non-KYC casinos often have worse odds in sports gambling so I'd make a small sacrifice to be able to earn more long term if I win.
In my country too, there are many national casinos which doesn't really require customers to perform KYC before you can use the casino. It's only a few international casino that I have done KYC verification on and I don't use them frequently. Since I am mostly bet only on sport games, I frequently use the casinos that is operating only in my country. Some casinos actually allows customers to gamble and withdraw without passing their KYC but if the user neglects any of the casino rules, that's only when they would be required to perform the KYC.
June 16, 2024, 05:08:51 AM
With KYC.
I have no problem with KYC as long as it is a reputable casino or sports bookie. And we do have lots of good names here in our forum like Stake.com, Sportsbet.io, and more. I would not mind giving my information out and this is also in case I win lots of money, I won't have any trouble with them and they won't give me a hard time to withdraw and receive it.
Sure, we are in the cryptocurrency industry where privacy is important. But this are gambling sites who are also trying not to get in trouble with the government so they may continue their business.
Of course, because it is casino that has good reputation and has enormous trust from all its customers, even customer trust can be seen from how many loyal customers they have who are always active every day.I have no problem with KYC as long as it is a reputable casino or sports bookie. And we do have lots of good names here in our forum like Stake.com, Sportsbet.io, and more. I would not mind giving my information out and this is also in case I win lots of money, I won't have any trouble with them and they won't give me a hard time to withdraw and receive it.
Sure, we are in the cryptocurrency industry where privacy is important. But this are gambling sites who are also trying not to get in trouble with the government so they may continue their business.
KYC is only requested if necessary and this has been stated in the TOS they have, but it would be better to complete it from the first time register so that we can be much more comfortable and avoid things such as suspicion regarding the activities we carry out in certain conditions.
But unfortunately some gamblers don't think so and there are still many who avoid KYC for reasons of privacy or protecting their personal identity so that bad things such as customer information leaks don't happen.
So that is the main basis that must always be paid attention to, every gambler must be able to understand it, this is gambling and in the form of crypto basis, there are several countries that have prohibitions on this activity.
Everything is also done for the smooth running of business and also for mutual comfort between gamblers and the gambling site itself.
June 15, 2024, 04:18:54 PM
If a casino is trusted overall this is only secondary to me.
Me personally, I'm lucky enough to live in a country that is allowed through most KYC'd services so KYC doesn't bother me.
The issue however is when a provider isn't trustworthy. What happens for example if the Terms of Service are updated one day to exclude my country and therefore I'm banned from my winnings because I didn't follow the rules? If a provider wants to cheat you out of winnings they could do it. So first of all to me overall trust of a gambling provider is number one. If they have minimum proven disputes it's the best for me.
Light KYC also doesn't bother me even as a prerequisite. Non-KYC casinos often have worse odds in sports gambling so I'd make a small sacrifice to be able to earn more long term if I win.
Me personally, I'm lucky enough to live in a country that is allowed through most KYC'd services so KYC doesn't bother me.
The issue however is when a provider isn't trustworthy. What happens for example if the Terms of Service are updated one day to exclude my country and therefore I'm banned from my winnings because I didn't follow the rules? If a provider wants to cheat you out of winnings they could do it. So first of all to me overall trust of a gambling provider is number one. If they have minimum proven disputes it's the best for me.
Light KYC also doesn't bother me even as a prerequisite. Non-KYC casinos often have worse odds in sports gambling so I'd make a small sacrifice to be able to earn more long term if I win.
June 15, 2024, 02:38:44 PM
For me, there is no problem if a casino has KYC requirements as long as it is a reputed gambling platform. I don't think it's a big deal to me. Especially if I'm also enjoying the casino
platform I'm playing on, which has all the games I want to bet on.
Also, usually the casino games I play are regulated gambling platforms, and in that case, I expected that they really have a KYC that is required once you enter or play for the first time
on the casino platform.
I think KYC-based casinos are more trusted because having a KYC can also mean that they now have a license and having a license is what scares them to do an unwanted thing because their identity is already recorded and they will be hunted down easily if let say they commit such act.platform I'm playing on, which has all the games I want to bet on.
Also, usually the casino games I play are regulated gambling platforms, and in that case, I expected that they really have a KYC that is required once you enter or play for the first time
on the casino platform.
For some users, maybe their definition of trust is different and they think those who demand a KYC is the one who is not trusted because they might keep or stole our details, and worse sell it to someone else. We don't know what happens, next. Maybe those people will try to impersonate us for their shady doings and the blame will be put to us. That's scary.
if ever you would really be tending to play on a new site or not really that been heard of but well it would be just that impossible that you cant really be able to point out
on what are the things that you are dealing of with. It would be common sense that you would be sticking into those legit ones.
June 15, 2024, 02:29:24 PM
Definitely the one that doesn't.
IMO casinos that require KYC put my private data at risk and I don't want someone to use my identity.
I'm aware of data leaks and know that companies like to sell stuff to bad actors who will later target them with ads and use that data to create fake IDs.
There's always a risk that a casino promotes itself as KYC free just to get more players and later scam them, but that's the risk I'm willing to take.
IMO casinos that require KYC put my private data at risk and I don't want someone to use my identity.
I'm aware of data leaks and know that companies like to sell stuff to bad actors who will later target them with ads and use that data to create fake IDs.
There's always a risk that a casino promotes itself as KYC free just to get more players and later scam them, but that's the risk I'm willing to take.
June 15, 2024, 02:18:24 PM
For me, there is no problem if a casino has KYC requirements as long as it is a reputed gambling platform. I don't think it's a big deal to me. Especially if I'm also enjoying the casino
platform I'm playing on, which has all the games I want to bet on.
Also, usually the casino games I play are regulated gambling platforms, and in that case, I expected that they really have a KYC that is required once you enter or play for the first time
on the casino platform.
I think KYC-based casinos are more trusted because having a KYC can also mean that they now have a license and having a license is what scares them to do an unwanted thing because their identity is already recorded and they will be hunted down easily if let say they commit such act.platform I'm playing on, which has all the games I want to bet on.
Also, usually the casino games I play are regulated gambling platforms, and in that case, I expected that they really have a KYC that is required once you enter or play for the first time
on the casino platform.
For some users, maybe their definition of trust is different and they think those who demand a KYC is the one who is not trusted because they might keep or stole our details, and worse sell it to someone else. We don't know what happens, next. Maybe those people will try to impersonate us for their shady doings and the blame will be put to us. That's scary.
June 15, 2024, 12:25:43 PM
Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.
So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
Although I consider myself one of the most supportive of privacy in the crypto space, I always advise beginners to choose platforms that are known for their reliability and that are always centralized platforms that operate under activity licenses and therefore will impose KYC identity verification procedures. The experience can be considered somewhat safer, and the user can contact support or any legal authority in the event of any problem with the casino system.
Personally, I strongly refuse to use any anonymous platform that does not operate according to legal licenses, because these are the only guarantees for me as an online user, especially since I am in a country that does not support the activities of its citizens on the Internet, especially gambling activities.
It is true that decentralized platforms guarantee a greater degree of privacy, but they require great knowledge of how to use them and do not have all the features that central casinos provide. Maybe that's why it's not in great demand.
June 15, 2024, 10:31:03 AM
With KYC.
I have no problem with KYC as long as it is a reputable casino or sports bookie. And we do have lots of good names here in our forum like Stake.com, Sportsbet.io, and more. I would not mind giving my information out and this is also in case I win lots of money, I won't have any trouble with them and they won't give me a hard time to withdraw and receive it.
Sure, we are in the cryptocurrency industry where privacy is important. But this are gambling sites who are also trying not to get in trouble with the government so they may continue their business.
I have no problem with KYC as long as it is a reputable casino or sports bookie. And we do have lots of good names here in our forum like Stake.com, Sportsbet.io, and more. I would not mind giving my information out and this is also in case I win lots of money, I won't have any trouble with them and they won't give me a hard time to withdraw and receive it.
Sure, we are in the cryptocurrency industry where privacy is important. But this are gambling sites who are also trying not to get in trouble with the government so they may continue their business.
June 15, 2024, 09:58:23 AM
Since there are reputable gambling sites that don’t require KYC, I will prefer to make use of them.
I don't know if there are still a few casinos that could pass this requirement. I tried to check, but the popular ones here already require KYC. Though not all of them require it right away, if you read their TOS, you'll see that KYC can be required. It's up to them when they'll initiate it. I believe it's not attractive to gamblers if they require KYC for every new signup, as it could discourage them.
Anyway, as long as we know from the start that they are a KYC casino, we should already expect that our account might be subject to KYC at any time. Since we choose to use them, we should be ready to comply anytime.
June 15, 2024, 09:54:54 AM
Sorry, the information I got might be outdated. I haven't really visited the official site of the casino since I'm not one of the players. Thank you for the correction. So, they just recently acquired a license since the information I got was last updated in 2023?
I don't know when they acquired a license. Moneypot and Bustabit were owned by the same person, I checked Moneypot's ann thread and discovered that Moneypot has been a fully incorporated company in Costa Rica since 2015. If Moneypot has had a Costa Rica license since 2015, then I think Bustabit might have owned a Costa Rica license for years or since the day it was created.So this is where the problem gets worse if you file a case against them. If you are from the Philippines, you need to go to Costa Rica to file a case? That's too expensive as traveling alone would already cost you a lot of money.
It's very expensive to hire a lawyer and take legal action against crypto casino, especially when it's based overseas and is not a local company. That's why 1xBit has been scamming people for so many years. June 15, 2024, 06:50:46 AM
The most important aspects are reputation and what we are actually looking for. There are casinos that have fewer games while some also could have more games but still need in the gambling space with less reputation. Reputable is very important in how legit a gambling platform could be.
Before you consider using a particular gambling site, the first thing you should check out is the reputation of the gambling site. After checking the reputation of the gambling site, some people are going to check if they are going to submit their identity before they can make use of the gambling site. You might not have any problem submitting your identity, but there are still some people who do not like it, they want to be anonymous. Since there are reputable gambling sites that don’t require KYC, I will prefer to make use of them. June 15, 2024, 06:12:49 AM
It doesn't matter IMO.
What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
Although the risk that is involved in giving out our secret information to online platforms should not be overlooked, giving off your information should be done with caution, knowing that their are some casinos that is not trusted. They can sell your private information.
June 15, 2024, 04:47:20 AM
back then when I am new in online gambling , I kept looking for a casino that has no kyc feature because i
wanted to preserve my privacy and my character , but things change over the years when each casino that I
use to play starts adding KYC as they are being mandated by the government and eventually seeing the advantage
of having KYC to non kyc so now I am supporting the KYCed casino for safer and better communication to the
team and what they can offer in legalities .
this thread will only runs with different stands when this does not support what and how gambling works.
wanted to preserve my privacy and my character , but things change over the years when each casino that I
use to play starts adding KYC as they are being mandated by the government and eventually seeing the advantage
of having KYC to non kyc so now I am supporting the KYCed casino for safer and better communication to the
team and what they can offer in legalities .
It doesn't matter IMO.
What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
exactly , it is always fall to our prerogatives and what we wanted or not , it is our money and our decisions What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
this thread will only runs with different stands when this does not support what and how gambling works.
June 15, 2024, 04:28:28 AM
Personally, I prefer to play with casinos that must provide CIC, because sooner or later this will happen. While the casino is not visible to regulatory authorities, it can afford to accept players without CIC, but if it does well, the volume of bets, the number of players and other indicators will gradually increase. Then additional rules and regulations will have to be introduced.
Also, if you do not provide documents, then ultimately this may become a fraudulent activity on the part of the casino, when the player wins a big win and it will require you to go through the CIC, otherwise it will simply not give away the winnings. This is one of the most unpleasant problems players have with casinos. Because if it doesn’t pass the test, then it turns out that the game was in vain, it’s terrible and I wanted there to be as few such cases as possible.
Also, if you do not provide documents, then ultimately this may become a fraudulent activity on the part of the casino, when the player wins a big win and it will require you to go through the CIC, otherwise it will simply not give away the winnings. This is one of the most unpleasant problems players have with casinos. Because if it doesn’t pass the test, then it turns out that the game was in vain, it’s terrible and I wanted there to be as few such cases as possible.
June 15, 2024, 04:16:46 AM
Non-KYC Casinos
Cloudbet: No KYC that supports crypto
Bitsler: Variety of games without KYC
FortuneJack: Huge selection of games and bonuses without KYC
Primedice: Offers a dice game without KYC.
I have no idea why you can include all of them into no KYC casinos when it's really clear all of them are KYC casino. Casino that didn't ask to verify your account even you able to deposit and withdraw your coins doesn't mean it's no KYC casinos, you need to check the terms to know the reality.Cloudbet: No KYC that supports crypto
Bitsler: Variety of games without KYC
FortuneJack: Huge selection of games and bonuses without KYC
Primedice: Offers a dice game without KYC.
The real no KYC casinos never ask KYC in any situation or condition.
7.1.6. You authorise us to use any means that we consider necessary to verify your identity and creditworthiness with any third party providers of information.
Quote from: https://www.bitsler.com/en/tos
4.4. If we are unable to verify your age, identity or address to our satisfaction, your Account will be suspended until the requested information is provided. We reserve the right at any time and at our sole discretion to reject verification documents provided and/or request further verification documents be submitted in order to satisfy our verification obligations.
Quote from: https://fortunejack.com/faq/terms_and_conditions
5.2. We reserve the right to verify Your registration details and all other personal data provided by You to Us any time after the registration of the Account, such as : name, surname, identity information, personal number and passport number, address, age and any other personal data, at any time, by requesting certain type of documents.
Quote from: https://primedice.com/policies/terms
Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Primedice reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Primedice reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Primedice’s sole discretion. Primedice also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Primedice (owner and operator of Primedice), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.
Primedice reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Primedice reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Primedice’s sole discretion. Primedice also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Primedice (owner and operator of Primedice), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.
June 15, 2024, 02:59:11 AM
It doesn't matter IMO.
What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.
In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
June 15, 2024, 02:54:06 AM
I'd pick the casinos with KYC, only because the ones i've used have been okay, even though there's always a chance for them to cause a bad experience.
I also agree with the others about avoiding KYC as a main factor in picking casinos because it only takes one wrong move, and you'd suddenly have a limited account with little to no option aside from withdrawing your funds.
Once you try both, you'll barely see the difference if they're decent in handling the other parts of a casino.
I also agree with the others about avoiding KYC as a main factor in picking casinos because it only takes one wrong move, and you'd suddenly have a limited account with little to no option aside from withdrawing your funds.
Once you try both, you'll barely see the difference if they're decent in handling the other parts of a casino.
June 14, 2024, 06:20:21 PM
Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.
Not on their judgment but based on the user's activity. I, I'm not yet kyced in most of the casinos that I play because I'm not as big as the others. And that's what I am talking about the user activity because the wagering plays a big part and how much a gambler does with that. So, if a user gambles with a lot of money and then tries to withdraw it, that's one factor why that user is being asked to comply of the kyc. And there are so many other factors that we might have not yet discussed or if we do, we passed on that because they rarely happen in some cases but yes, there are other factors too.So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with?
Easy, then that one that has integrity and true to their words. But on the business side, everything is understandable when they have to change their policies and needed to start asking for their users to comply for the kyc because the pressure isn't really coming from them but from someone way above and higher than them and they're the regulators.Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
I am not sure, nothing at all really or maybe some delays in withdrawals? Mostly are like that and as well as the genuine wins with big amounts. Jump to: