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Quote from: Quidat on June 26, 2024, 01:14:39 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on June 26, 2024, 01:07:51 PM

Yes what you said is true regarding what are the possibilities that can happen in these two situations between winning and losing, anything can happen but it all depends on whether they will be able to control themselves and their mindset or not, while we know how the behavior of someone who has entered the addiction phase.

What this means is that in any situation, win or lose, the act of quitting will only be easy for gamblers who are not addicted, because an addicted gambler obviously cannot control themselves so that they can enter the addiction phase, so I would say that quitting when winning or losing is only easy when a gambler is not addicted, or has full control over themselves.

Control and moderation would really be the key on here on which on the moment that you have lost that control then you would really be ending up on having that devastation when it comes into your finances and this is something that must be avoided on the moment that you would really be dealing up with gambling. Winning or losing then it would really be that always the main results or outcome
on gambling field. It wont really be that necessary to quit if you are really just that playing gambling for the sake of fun and not for making income because this is where people do usually derailed themselves when it comes to this manner on which you would really be messing up your finances if you would really be that making yourself that delusional towards gambling.
Dont play for making income but rather for entertainment then you would really be that safe on that part.

Yes of course control is the main key to surviving gambling activities as you said, but on the other hand as I said above that gamblers who are already addicted will certainly not have this ability.

One of the reasons why the key to survival in gambling activities is to have control or self-control because after all gambling can really make a gambler emotional and lose consciousness which is a situation that can trigger a bigger disaster, which in addition to the results at the end of gambling are always unpredictable and of course however it is natural in an activity that is probable.

The other thing so far is that gambling with the aim of seeking entertainment is indeed much better, or that means that it is the best approach so that we can avoid various bad possibilities, because by having the intention to have fun and not to earn then of course you will not have excessive interest in winning.

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Quote from: irsykes on June 27, 2024, 01:12:09 PM

prefer to take the winnings first if our balance increases 10x. I have experienced big hopes with an increase of 100x from the deposit capital, but I only got 30x. but not being satisfied with the desired achievement, everything was lost because of big ambition. personal experience, now just grateful if betting my money grows better it is . because I think about it in terms of time and strategy, losses, money going in and out. which is not easy with a short time and many things that are more important prioritize family. If I win at gambling, will withdraw the money

You are like a person who does not easily stop when you get a win, even up to 30x your capital, that is a very pantastis amount in my eyes, you should be able to feel enough if then your profit drops to 20x, but you spend it there, I myself just the opposite when I get more than 5x definitely stop gambling and withdraw winnings, because something that is impossible if I get 100x in gambling, I don't have big ambitions with it.

But if in a losing state I can not stop, because my curiosity is sometimes greater, maybe try once or twice again to get a win, my thinking is like that, my curiosity can be more crazy at a certain time if it continues to get a loss.

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I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10? I used specific amounts to make it easier to discuss this situation. I understand that we all gamble with different amounts based on our income, but consider this as an example. You can mention any amount you want based on your personal experience; it doesn't matter.

It depends on your budget, because there are some gamblers that budgeted $5 or $10 daily in gambling whether winning or losing in the gambling, they will never gamble above their budget, and it has made them not to quit gambling till now.

As a regular gambler, I don't think you will quit gambling for such amount of money because you are not doing it for investment purpose, which you need to continue gamble to be catching some fun that will make you happy like the way I use to be happy whenever I have the opportunity to gamble.

If you have never crossing your limit in gambling, you can continue gamble but don't borrow money to gamble which is not advisable to gamblers to involve themselves in the gambling center.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 26, 2024, 06:47:50 PM

Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10? I used specific amounts to make it easier to discuss this situation. I understand that we all gamble with different amounts based on our income, but consider this as an example. You can mention any amount you want based on your personal experience; it doesn't matter.

If I look at this question, literally speaking, when you know that you have discipline in yourself as a gambler, you can easily stop gambling when you know you are winning. Because you control your emotions, for sure.

But when greed is there in you as a gambler, the chances are also high that even if you know that you will win gambling, you will still have the desire to win more money in the casino.

prefer to take the winnings first if our balance increases 10x. I have experienced big hopes with an increase of 100x from the deposit capital, but I only got 30x. but not being satisfied with the desired achievement, everything was lost because of big ambition. personal experience, now just grateful if betting my money grows better it is . because I think about it in terms of time and strategy, losses, money going in and out. which is not easy with a short time and many things that are more important prioritize family. If I win at gambling, will withdraw the money

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on June 27, 2024, 12:23:49 PM

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i feel that quitting when i lose is much easier than quitting when i win. because when i lose, i don't get what i want to get, so quitting at that time is not so difficult for me since i no longer have the desire to spend more money. but when i win, that's the challenge, because the desire to play until i get more money becomes even greater. it feels like my ego forces me to be able to play and get that jackpot, and that's what makes quitting when i win much more difficult for me.

You think differently than most gamblers, I believe. If you ask a regular gambler, even if they are not addicted to gambling, they would say it is difficult to exit when you have lost because your mind keeps telling you that you can recover the money you have lost if you make another deposit, and when you do that and lose the other deposit as well, the same happens again, and this happens until you have no money left at all.

I know stopping when you have won something is also extremely difficult sometimes because you tend to become greedy as a human being, it's our nature, we can't help it, and out of that greed, you may gamble and lose all or some of the profits you have gained and this gets you frustrated to another level because you literally had won some money on top of your deposit and now you have lost your initial deposit as well.

Our brain or simply our mind would really be the toughest opponent that we do need to control of and next is our emotions yet these two things could really that mutually connected when it comes into the feelings and thinking on where they would really be sharing up on the moment that you would really be losing money. We do know that when it comes to gambling and on the moment that we are on a losing condition
then it would really be just that normal that you would really be thinking for having that kind of retrieval or kind of approach on trying out to recover those loses on which this causes up for you to play even further.
We do know that on the time or moment that you would really be that making having this kind of approach or reaction then it would really be that hard for it to be controlled once you are on such moment.

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Quote from: moneystery on June 26, 2024, 11:13:28 AM

i feel that quitting when i lose is much easier than quitting when i win. because when i lose, i don't get what i want to get, so quitting at that time is not so difficult for me since i no longer have the desire to spend more money. but when i win, that's the challenge, because the desire to play until i get more money becomes even greater. it feels like my ego forces me to be able to play and get that jackpot, and that's what makes quitting when i win much more difficult for me.

You think differently than most gamblers, I believe. If you ask a regular gambler, even if they are not addicted to gambling, they would say it is difficult to exit when you have lost because your mind keeps telling you that you can recover the money you have lost if you make another deposit, and when you do that and lose the other deposit as well, the same happens again, and this happens until you have no money left at all.

I know stopping when you have won something is also extremely difficult sometimes because you tend to become greedy as a human being, it's our nature, we can't help it, and out of that greed, you may gamble and lose all or some of the profits you have gained and this gets you frustrated to another level because you literally had won some money on top of your deposit and now you have lost your initial deposit as well.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 26, 2024, 06:47:50 PM

Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10? I used specific amounts to make it easier to discuss this situation. I understand that we all gamble with different amounts based on our income, but consider this as an example. You can mention any amount you want based on your personal experience; it doesn't matter.

If I look at this question, literally speaking, when you know that you have discipline in yourself as a gambler, you can easily stop gambling when you know you are winning. Because you control your emotions, for sure.

But when greed is there in you as a gambler, the chances are also high that even if you know that you will win gambling, you will still have the desire to win more money in the casino.

That's right, meaning that the ease of quitting in any winning or losing condition will most likely only be able to be done by gamblers who do not have an excessive interest in gambling, such as those who are addicted.

Basically, not everyone can admit or realize that they have the wrong behavior or way of treating their gambling activities, but we can see everything from various behaviors and actions along with the decisions they often make in every situation when they are gambling, such as what decisions they will make when they win or lose.

The bottom line and the conclusion in my opinion is that we cannot use the context of winning or losing as a benchmark for quitting at the right time, or what I mean is that I cannot say that winning is an easier situation to quit than when we lose, or vice versa, because basically winning or losing is a difficult situation for an addicted gambler to quit, but as you said that whatever the situation is quitting will be an easy decision to make if the gambler is not addicted.

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I think it depends. If in terms of winning, I can easily quit when I already reached my target win. It gives me contentment and will not think of coming back in the casino for quite some time. Now when it comes to losing, I can only quit once I have emptied my wallet.

On the scenario that you have given, that win is 5x which is still a good win. I can consider this and I think I can still rest for some hours. If in case I am down to $10, I will still continue playing. Actually, when I'm down too much, my emotions are also getting stronger. I feel annoyed or angry ( to be specific ). There are times that I can stop but that is if I'm still breakeven.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on June 26, 2024, 09:37:17 AM

To answer your question, it is easier to quit when winning than to quit when losing. When losing you would want to see if you can recover your money back at least up to your bankroll. Whenever you are winning and you have made good profit of 50% of your bankroll this excitement comes and it makes you quit and take your winning happily. However, only responsible gamblers can be satisfied and make such a profit the greedy ones might feel it is a good day for them and that they should continue gambling. If such person loses both the bankroll and the profit, he has made previously because of greedy then he got what he deserved.

Obviously, it is not easy for one to gain a profit of 500% of their bankroll. Even 50% or 100% is enough for a person to quit gambling for the day. Some people just make 10% profit and they are done for the day. Just like i have said anyone who refuses to quit with this amount is really greedy.

They should stops playing gambling when they wins but if they can't control their minds, they will not stops playing gambling instead will keeps playing gambling. Not many gamblers can have responsible when playing gambling or when they wins so we must not lose control to stops ourselves from playing gambling.

We must be careful with our greediness after we wins because that can makes us keeps playing gambling without stops. Yes, it's not easy to gain a profit of 500% so that will be our big winning and we must stops ourselves before it's too late. Winning 10% is enough to stops playing gambling immediately so we don't have to chase the bigger winning because that will be too difficult.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 26, 2024, 06:47:50 PM

If I look at this question, literally speaking, when you know that you have discipline in yourself as a gambler, you can easily stop gambling when you know you are winning. Because you control your emotions, for sure.

But when greed is there in you as a gambler, the chances are also high that even if you know that you will win gambling, you will still have the desire to win more money in the casino.

Those who have discipline will of course easily stop when they win, and similarly when they lose they can easily stop because they have discipline in gambling. because in my opinion, if they have discipline, of course they are people who are unlikely to take big risky steps that can make their emotions race, whereas gambling with an emotional state can of course put them in big trouble, such as getting a win but still wanting to gamble so that What they do is continue to gamble with the winnings they have obtained, of course this can affect their emotions and can get them into trouble.
Continuing gambling with winnings that have been obtained can be said to tend to start following greed, with the fact that defeat or losing money will dominate, of course this can make them disappointed when the winnings that have been obtained are lost again. It's not easy to stop gambling if they don't have discipline, if they have strict discipline under any circumstances I think they can stop gambling easily.

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My determinant to continuing gambling is mostly checked in percentage, i don't really get to measure it by the amount i still have remaining in my wallet, what i measure it by is by the percentage which i have used of my funds as i do make sure to make a budget as i am a very conservative gambler. if i have used more than 50% of my bankroll and I'm yet to win, i quit for the day but if on the other hand i have made as much as 50% of my account and i didn't get it easily, i make sure to quit but if i made 50% of my account on one, two or three trials, I would still continue because i would be made to believe there's still luck ahead with which i can be able to profit from so i basically work in this manner and there have been times i made as much as 200% and that has been my max, i make sure not to get pass that, if at any point i get so lucky that i make up to 200% at a session, i quit but if i loos 50% i quit without a second taught because i believe i may loose all i have got in the next move.

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Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10? I used specific amounts to make it easier to discuss this situation. I understand that we all gamble with different amounts based on our income, but consider this as an example. You can mention any amount you want based on your personal experience; it doesn't matter.

If I look at this question, literally speaking, when you know that you have discipline in yourself as a gambler, you can easily stop gambling when you know you are winning. Because you control your emotions, for sure.

But when greed is there in you as a gambler, the chances are also high that even if you know that you will win gambling, you will still have the desire to win more money in the casino.

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Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10? I used specific amounts to make it easier to discuss this situation. I understand that we all gamble with different amounts based on our income, but consider this as an example. You can mention any amount you want based on your personal experience; it doesn't matter.

If I eventually turn $100 to $500, I will have to withdraw $400 and remain $100 to continue my adventure. But if by any reason by $100 turns to $10, I'll not withdraw it, rather I'll leave it in my gambling portfolio for further adventure.

So the question of whether it is easy to quit when winning or when lossing applies to individual differences. Someone who is greedy will find it difficult to quit while winning and that same greedy man will be willing to chase his losses until he losses all.

That could be a good approach in paper, but when you are there, it's really hard to say. I mean yeah, you already made a withdrawal of $400 and just playing that $100 and by chance you lose it, maybe you are going to think to deposit and try to get that $100.

I'm sure gamblers here at one time in their gambling activity has done it. Not about greedy I guess, but it's more on the mentally of not wanting to lose. So in that case, it's better to withdraw all of that $500.

You have a good point. If I multiplied $100 to $500, withdrew $400 and continue gambling with $100. When I eventually lose the $100, I'll definitely be tempted to deposit more, having in mind that I got $400 profits. It is natural and happens to everyone.
Going by your advice of withdrawing the whole $500, it is a good idea but what happens if you want to continue gambling? You still need to deposit, or will that be the last gambling. Or are we going to argue that the money is from another source. It all goes down to moderation and discipline.

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The risk is far greater if you win $500 than if you lose the last $10. In the first scenario, you're risking a reasonable amount of profit that would go to waste. Greediness is an awful thing, and you should be appreciative that you've managed to yield such large returns. In the second scenario, you've already gambled away your balance and have $10 left in your account; in the worst-case scenario, you're going to lose another $10, while going ahead and gambling them provides you with the possibility of earning some of your money back.

In the first scenario, I'd simply withdraw immediately, while on the second, I'd go all in. How can it possibly go?

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Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

I know that as gamblers, everyone can relate to this question, as we have surely experienced it in real situations.

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue?

In my style of gameplay I would not hesitate to stop gambling and withdraw my fund. I always have this target in my gambling engagement and when I hit the mark, I stop and withdraw regardless how long I am playing.

Quote from: LDL on June 26, 2024, 04:00:18 PM

It is not right to withdraw from gambling even if you lose a gambling bet or to withdraw from gambling even if you get a large profit from gambling. Rather, I think you should adapt yourself to every situation. Those who are wise and experienced are able to adapt themselves to gambling in all situations and a good gambler never stops gambling after losing or suddenly stops gambling after getting a lot of profit. Rather, their main target is to control themselves in every situation and set themselves with gambling.

I wonder in what sense it is wrong to withdraw in gambling when you are winning, or when one is suffering a loss? I believe there is no such rule that prohibit any person to move his funds regardless of the gambling activity outcome.

Besides withdrawing a fund in any circumstances is probably one way of a gambler to adapt himself on his current gambling situation.

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Quote from: stadus on June 23, 2024, 08:43:11 AM

Suppose our bankroll is $100 and it has already grown to $500, would you quit or continue? Conversely, if with our bankroll, we are down to $10, would you still continue or save the remaining $10?

I think I would never stop gambling. Because when my money was 500 Dollar, I would ask myself why not 1500 Dollar, and I would keep gambling. If my money dropped to 10 Dollar, I would keep gambling to save my money. I could easily sacrifice my 10 Dollar for that, because a one tenth drop in my money would do me no good. When I gamble, I never stop until I run out of money. Gamblers know this best. But when I gamble, I have a set amount of money where I have to stop, and if I reach that amount of money, then I stop gambling. It is easier to stop gambling in case of a win than in case of a loss.

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It is not right to withdraw from gambling even if you lose a gambling bet or to withdraw from gambling even if you get a large profit from gambling. Rather, I think you should adapt yourself to every situation. Those who are wise and experienced are able to adapt themselves to gambling in all situations and a good gambler never stops gambling after losing or suddenly stops gambling after getting a lot of profit. Rather, their main target is to control themselves in every situation and set themselves with gambling.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 26, 2024, 11:17:41 AM

The ease of quitting depends on an gamblers self control, mindset and understanding of the risks involved in gambling.

That's the best statement ever about quitting gambling, the gambler who can't control his emotions many not be able to quit gambling even if he wins or losses.

Some people have good mindset and they can take quit gambling if they decide to do that while those with weak mindset won't be able to take such decisions.

Surely there are many risks involve in gambling and those who understand such risks often gamble for gun or avoid gambling at all, I personally prefer gamble for fun but there are of course some gamblers who make good amounts from sports betting.

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Quote from: moneystery on June 26, 2024, 11:13:28 AM

i feel that quitting when i lose is much easier than quitting when i win. because when i lose, i don't get what i want to get, so quitting at that time is not so difficult for me since i no longer have the desire to spend more money. but when i win, that's the challenge, because the desire to play until i get more money becomes even greater. it feels like my ego forces me to be able to play and get that jackpot, and that's what makes quitting when i win much more difficult for me.

Actually it is easy to quit gambling in the two aspects you mentioned but it depends on the gambler attitude. Some gamblers quit gambling when they lose and some gamblers quit after winning. And some gamblers just can't get out of it, win or lose. The gambler should set a certain level. A gambler should accept win or defeat. Many cannot give up gambling because of greed and many do not give up due to recover their losses. If you can't control your gambling by yourself, you can never get the desired results from gambling. If a gambler is too greedy then any win will never stop him. He will be eager for one win after another.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 24, 2024, 09:25:10 AM

Thanks for answering my question. I can see that you are a responsible gambler. You have plans that you follow, and you understand how and when to stop. Personally, I'm not so disciplined when it comes to gambling. Though I must say that I have learned a lot from my years of being a gambler, from time to time I have this problem where I cannot stop when I'm down because I want to end the session with a profit. As a result, when I try to break my rules, I end up losing my focus in the game. Most of the time, when I do this kind of thing, not only do I lose my winnings, but also the entire money I have, including my initial bankroll.

Yes, gambling activities make our adrenaline activate, causing a person to have urge to continue gambling until they have zero balance or until they luckily win an amount they are satisfied with. If you don't want to lose more than you expect from gambling, then you must learn to discipline yourself. It's not usually easy, but with continuous practice, you will definitely learn. In the past, I have experienced symptoms of addiction, and I have even gambled off the money I never wanted to, but that was not the life I wanted for myself, so I had to learn. You can see that I am promoting a casino campaign, and payment is made directly to my casino account. I am beginning to form the habit of playing my favorite game almost every week of payment now, but I don't spend more than $5. Even when I withdraw my campaign payment, I will not spend more than I want to. Yesterday, I decided to only spend $1 on "crash game," and after burning the $1, I left.

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