Topic: Who are the most vulnerable - page 10. (Read 3649 times)

Yes, I agree with what you said that many people misunderstand by thinking that the longer they are involved in gambling, the more experienced they will be and when they become experienced gamblers they think that they will never lose and will get a lot of wins, and of course that is a wrong idea especially if we are talking about the type of casino game that has no way to influence the outcome of the game.

On the other hand, yes, skills and experience can affect the outcome of sports betting but we must remember that it is nothing more than a tool and not a guarantee that you will always win or not a guarantee that you will never lose, so misunderstandings in some cases always trigger the decline caused by gambling, and I think so far there is only one way to minimize it, namely by being rational in every time we respond to everything we find new, and for the problem of who is most vulnerable I agree with you that everyone is susceptible to addiction and it depends on how they view gambling from the start.

Yes, I agree with that. If we keep on feeding that gambling habit, sooner or later it will change to addiction and I hope that we can realize that sooner before it becomes uncontrollable.
I've seen one but I think he is redeemable and he is a good friend of mine. He came here to my house with our friends on my birthday and I was intrigued by why his eyes were glued to his smartphone. When I approached him I saw that he was playing slots and to make things worse, he even asked if I had digital cash money so he could deposit more and keep on playing. That's gambling addiction because we are trying to enjoy the moments and celebrate while our mind is kept by the online slot game.
I think anyone is vulnerable, young or old. Actually, the old ones may be more vulnerable because they have incomes while the kids only rely on their allowances.

That's not always the case. The older, the more experienced gambler doesn't have guarantee to make huge money in gambling because of their skills. This is a misconception and that's why many gamblers are falling with this thought because they think that they're good as they with their skills and they won't be losing any money from it. They're also vulnerable so, everyone is prone but the younger ones are mostly vulnerable because I've been there and done that and I have done things that are against to the teachings of my parents just to gamble.

This discussion is almost as close as who takes the biggest risk between the poor and the rich, and I think the reasonable answer is still depending on each person's mindset, while we don't know each other's thoughts about the same gambling. For rich people, of course, they can gamble more freely because they have enough money to bet, maybe they won't hesitate to place a large bet.
For poor people, they tend to gamble with the amount they have and hope to get a big win that can make them profit with just a little capital, these two facts trigger one factor, namely gambling addiction. But no one knows with the thoughts because it could be that poor people have a wiser mindset than rich people in terms of gambling or vice versa, it is quite difficult to solve.

At least, we can still parenting by research what we need to do to guide our children. We will not let them dealing into something that can harm them so we will keep learning how to parenting. Children and young people now exposure of gambling more than in a few years ago because with the internet develop over and over, they can access the internet without having a problem. If parents doesn't know how to protect them, they can easily know and try to playing gambling or something that they are not deserve to know yet. Yes, we don't want our children becomes addicted to gambling, drug, and other that can harm them so that is why we must responsible with them.

Using VPN will be their solution to access something that prohibited by your government so that will not gives them difficulty to use that including playing gambling without anyone know. If they are often to playing gambling without have a break, they will gets addicted to gambling easily and when that is happen, it is very hard to cure them.

Parents needs to follow the technology so they can guide their children to use the technology properly and for their own good. If we can educate them about using something for their own good, they will not trying to break that because that can gives them a problem that they will not imagine.

The gamblers who doesn’t have enough money should avoid of the gambling,because they can’t afford the consequences of the gambling losses.The gamblers who had less money in their wallet will not gamble the money,instead they will hold the money for the future.Because they won’t have the second option of the gambling risk of the money.

If the poor had enough strong mind to face the loss or gain in the gambling,they can play the gambling to get away from their poor situation.Because all the people who was rich now will take the risk at any point of the life for sure.So gambling was such risk for the poor to get away from the poor condition.

The teenager who want to make the money in the short period of time will do the gambling as their first position.Because the person who have good knowledge in the gambling will make the huge money with their skills.But the gamblers should understand the fact,they also risking the real money and losing the money will loss their real money in their gambling site.The money spending was easier one,but making the money from the gambling site or real business is not the easy one.

The most vulnerable to the menace of gambling is the poor. No poor man gambles for fun. Every poor man gambles because of the financial gain in gambling. So, it is the poor who chases loses, who gambles with money meant for dinner. It is the poor man who will borrow to gamble and in the end they'll become indebted. It is the poor man who wants to suddenly become rich through gambling.

The rich gambles for fun. Even if they gamble for money, there's no problems because when they lose, they have to continue gambling. The most vulnerable is the poor.

The effect gambling can have on someone depends on the gambler and his ability to resist or stand by his own decision, not allowing the urge or the tempting offer the casino display to affect the player's mindset towards breaking their own rules of either increasing the wagering amount or depositing more funds. 
 
On the aspect of how it affects the rich and the poor, the only difference could be that the rich will lose and spend more money compared to the average gambler, but the fact of the matter is that they both feel the same irrespective of how much is lost as it's being measured based on their wealth.

I think gambling problems affects both the rich and the poor in their own various ways. Well it kinda depends on the Individual and how addicted they are to gambling. Yes we may feel like the poor suffer less from addiction due to the limitation or availability of funds, and that the rich suffer more because they have more money to throw away. But in reality that’s not really the case, this is because financial worth, what do I mean by this? $100 in the hands of a poor man is never the same when/if it’s in hands of a rich man, a poor man can throw away $50 and it’ll take him a week or more to recover from the loss, while losing $50 would mean nothing to a rich man.

So a poor man losing $100 could almost be the same as when a rich man loses over a thousand bucks, it’s just a matter of worth.

The teenagers or those that enter into adoslescents are more prone to gambling. It's because they don't understand yet how it goes for one to earn money. They're all for the fun and games and when everything seems to show struggle, that's how they will just skip and do something else. They don't earn for a living yet and the money that they are gambling with are from their parents. With that, it's easier to spend money that you didn't worked for and this is on their case although their parents are doing the right thing in providing them some finances.

Obviously, common sense tells everyone different things. And if he tells some to stop, then others obviously hear that it is necessary to recoup their losses. There is no other way to explain the fact that many players lose and spend their entire deposit.

Only when it will be dangerous to the rich is if the rich is greedy , because you have already have alot of money what else do you want, because most people that actually play for fun are the rich , because they are not chasing after gambling wealth most time but rather as a means to while away time , but for the poor they take it as a means of getting financial freedom And stuff within a short period of time which is wrong because with that mindset things won't end well.

Better to find that diversion instead of pushing for more if you feel that adrenaline inside you, addiction may arise as you keep giving way it will grow and grow to the point that you can't hold or control, same with what you said it's look easy but the reality it's not, it just keep pushing you to seek for more the kind of situation where younger minds are more prone on getting addicted to it, which will be needed a closer attention from their friends and love ones to help them avoid those unnecessary actions that they might do.

Problem gambling affects any form of gambler who is not careful with his responsible strategies. It could be more dangerous to the rich than the poor. Because of the limitation of funds for the low income players. Although some go ahead to do illicit businesses to play games, it's not to be compared to how much money the rich would lose for playing compulsively. As they've got so much on their bankroll.

Yes that is true and the only thing that is worrying here is that most of them gamble using their parents' hard earned money, most of their parents do not know this but in such cases I am sure that there will be a time for parents to know about what their children are actually doing with the money they are given through suspicious looking wasteful scenarios and it may also be true with what you said that there is also a possibility that the children leave a lot of debt without the knowledge of their parents.

On the other hand, yes you have said the right advice that this is the reason why we as parents really have to be able to choose or see the environment where our children play, I am sure as parents we will know about how to distinguish between good and bad environments for our children and that is what we have to do to prevent various unwanted things.

The fact that kyc is a mandatory thing to discover underage in gambling such as uploading of documents and IDs which makes it Very easy for the casino to detect underage involvement in gambling and for sure we have to make sure that each point in time we make attempts to guide those underage around us but in at that we have decentralised casinos that have no requirements for KYC, VPN usage may not be the best thing to use at this time because by using it you may easily hide or bypass restrictions but that does not leave you out of tracking that involves only IPs addresses and not kyc documents..

Let say those decentralised casinos have the right to use other means to discover underage, but then not all of them have the required liquidity to support some transactions, so we still have to banced back to centralised casinos.which the leav us with KYC at some level, .

The fight has underage gambling is not only for the casino but also the parents of the kid's because at some point it Their responsibility to take care of their ward's.

There is a social theory those who are rich and are also addicted to gambling are generally part of what it is called "new-rich", those who got their wealth not from hard work and discipline in investments, but rather from heritage, winning the lottery or other economical processes which can be translated to suddenly climbing up within the social scale.
Still I believe there is a direct correlation between the level of poverty and the willingness to engage in gambling games or betting in sports. Those extreme cases we see in the news about someone rich losing thousands, hundred of thousands or dollars in a single sessions are not the norm, but the exception to the norm.

How about when and if the parents arent aware that their child is using VPN to access gambling sites that are banned in the country?
The truth of the matter is that, without casinos intervening in the issue of underaged gambling, parents will fail woefully because this duty is not something themselves alone can handle, the fight against underaged gambling is often a collective fight which will take the government of a country, the parents of the child, and the casinos to win..

And how does casinos fight against underaged ganbming? It's through the implementation of mandatory kyc, this is one of the ways to really make sure that users are not only gambling from area where gambling is permitted, but also that they qualify in terms of age; to gamble.

But unfortunately, and even till date, several gamblers still detest kyc for whatever reasons best known to our individuals selfs.

Yes, that's the point, or the point is to play responsibly regardless of who you play with and how you play, the point is to use a little money or money that is truly capable of being accounted for, limit your expectations of winning and realize that the risk of losing will always lurk every time you start, most people especially those who already know gambling prefer this activity to get something they want whether it's adrenaline, sensation or entertainment because there is indeed ease in terms of accessibility and I admit that perspective is true even though there are still many other options.

On the other hand, it seems that talking and suggesting everything that looks good is always much easier than doing it, I understand that and I also admit that I am not entirely on the right path in treating gambling, sometimes I am also careless and do stupid things that should be avoided, but that's how humans are with nature and attitudes as social creatures, the point is there must be an intention to change and try to move forward in a better direction.