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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AM

Teens are copy cats, they do whatever they see on tv or on social media without knowing the consequences attached to it. Some of them might want to do it for fun, but along the line, they become addicted they don't have anyone to help them.

Anyone can actually fall under this category of being vulnerable to the society be it young or old, rich or poor but definitely advising one who's already deep into gambling is a huge task you know cause it just seems like your taking what gives them happiness.better still is to let the upcoming young ones know the necessary facts about gambling inorder not to fall into such situations and become vulnerable.

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What you say is indeed reasonable, but in my opinion the rich can be far more vulnerable to get a mental disorder if they lose to spend the wealth they have, especially those who are accustomed to wealth and then become poor in a matter of days because they will definitely be more stressed and more stressed and Getting a mental disorder because he is not ready to accept it, but if it's a poor person when he loses everything he has, they have readiness to have nothing because they are used to it, maybe logically like that, but addiction will be more vulnerable to coming to the poor if we are See the average decision taken.x

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Everyone lives according to the results of their choices. A rich person may want to gamble and a poor person may want to gamble. A rich person may want not to gamble and a poor person may want not to gamble. Everyone shapes their own life with their own choices. Maybe poor people are more more vulnerable in this regard. But I think it's a matter of preference in the end. Some people think they can make more money by gambling. A poor person who gambles today will still gamble tomorrow if he is rich. A rich person who does not gamble today would not gamble again if they were poor tomorrow. In my opinion, it is not right to categorize people.

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Quote from: Victorybit1 on December 03, 2024, 01:49:33 PM

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A person who already engaged mostly don't care what others will going to say or to think about them, what is important to them is they can continue playing and they feed the addiction inside them, in your situation, that kind of a gambler alreay hook on and it's only the person itself who can remove him from this kind of of vices.

The last statement that you've mentioned, I think yes, if the person are not concern with their finances, they are more vulnerable as they've got money that they can spent compared to those young adults where they are just leaning with their allowance.

Then the one who plans the budget can feel more comfortable in gambling, because he will not lose more than his income allows him. If he is ready to take 5% of his salary for gambling, and this will not become a problem for the player in case of losing this money, then he excludes any possibility for further spending. And if you want to play more, then try to play with profit, then you will not need to worry about running out of money for gambling.

If only it was as simple as you say it because I know most person who even claim of doing these stuffs never actually end up doing them although that's the difference between a discipline gambler and the one that doesn't know what he is getting himself into because if you do know the cost of having no boundaries to your gambling then I think no one would even think of gambling again.

Indeed, that's how we should consider it some may have that discipline but most are really aiming for the big one and ends up losing a lot, each gamblers are vulnerable going to depend on how they work on it and how they treat things whenever they are in session, you can keep yourself out from risking more if you know how to limit yourself.

When you feel that aggressivenes it's a good sign to quit and not to push forward, managing this kind of emotions keeps you away from getting to deep and lose a lot.

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Quote from: viljy on November 20, 2024, 06:02:22 AM

Many people write here that poor people are most at risk of becoming addicted to gambling. Whereas I knew one very well-off person who lost simply cosmic amounts of money. He was even treated by a psychiatrist several times for gambling addiction, but even now, after more than twenty years, he still plays, although of course for very small amounts, since he lost his business a long time ago.
Therefore, the predisposition to become addicted to gambling is more due to the character of a person, rather than his well-being. Since there are more poor people than rich people, it seems that they are more susceptible to addiction, but this is a false relationship. Similarly, there are very rich drug addicts, but there are fewer of them than poor drug addicts. Simply because there are fewer rich people than poor people.

You have a point there. It cannot be based on the class of a person especially if there are fewer rich than the poor. Many would say that the poor are the users and the gamblers and that's because they are more prone to be urged to do it. In gambling, they are the ones who are looking for a jackpot shot so they can get away from their poor lifestyle. Drugs, they are the most affected because drugs can somehow let them feel like they can get away from their problem of being poor when they use them.
This became the norm for every country and that's all because of a government that doesn't really focus on those fields. There's a chance it's because they are shareholders of the said businesses or they get a share of their profits.

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I don't think I would really put minors in this category because the biggest reason someone becomes addicted is those who already really know and realize the value of money in life, and speaking further I think the most vulnerable to addiction are those who come with a heavy burden on their shoulders, such as people who are having problems with their financial situation in their life, because usually when someone experiences problems like that, they will usually justify any means just to get money even though basically the method is really unreasonable.

But on the other hand, regardless of whether they have financial problems or any problems in their life, the point is that everyone is vulnerable to becoming addicted when they come without understanding and knowing in advance about what and how gambling really is, because in many ways, it is usually misunderstandings that will lead you to everything bad.

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In my opinion the most vulnerable people are the young ones and those that are poor. The system wasn't meant to enrich anyone you an either get lucky or unlucky. This is the main reason why rich people are able to bare the losses attached to gambling because it's a winning and losing game. But for the poor man losing can become a problem, the more he losses the more critical his situation becomes, this is why it's not advisable for the poor man to gamble. The teenagers below the age of 18 can also be affected negatively. Learning how to gamble at an early age in life could be setting you up for failure.

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It is interesting to say that people who are addicted to gambling also have other disorders. I wonder if there is really a big connection there, or if the people they polled are just likely to admit to multiple disorders whereas other people might not be willing to admit to even one. I could sort of see why people who struggle through life with disorders could feel the need to take a long shot at riches.

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Quote from: Altryist on November 20, 2024, 07:27:15 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 20, 2024, 05:49:11 AM

A person who already engaged mostly don't care what others will going to say or to think about them, what is important to them is they can continue playing and they feed the addiction inside them, in your situation, that kind of a gambler alreay hook on and it's only the person itself who can remove him from this kind of of vices.

The last statement that you've mentioned, I think yes, if the person are not concern with their finances, they are more vulnerable as they've got money that they can spent compared to those young adults where they are just leaning with their allowance.

Then the one who plans the budget can feel more comfortable in gambling, because he will not lose more than his income allows him. If he is ready to take 5% of his salary for gambling, and this will not become a problem for the player in case of losing this money, then he excludes any possibility for further spending. And if you want to play more, then try to play with profit, then you will not need to worry about running out of money for gambling.

If only it was as simple as you say it because I know most person who even claim of doing these stuffs never actually end up doing them although that's the difference between a discipline gambler and the one that doesn't know what he is getting himself into because if you do know the cost of having no boundaries to your gambling then I think no one would even think of gambling again.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 20, 2024, 06:38:59 PM

There is no one who is most vulnerable to gambling addiction, because everyone who is involved in gambling is already in the category of being vulnerable to gambling addiction, but I see that compared to those who are addicted, there are still many who make gambling just a fun activity so that they continue to use money that they can afford to lose and are able to stop at any time.

When we see some of our friends or closest people or also read/see news about people who are addicted, it does not mean that many are addicted, even a survey about those who are addicted may not fully describe what happens in real life.

I do agree on which on the time that you do step your foot into the world of gambling/betting then there's always that chance or tendency that you will really be that getting addicted into it.

Speaking about into those individuals who can potentially be able to see or witness gambling/betting sessions then everyone could be able to see it specially now that gambling ads will really be able to see on social media platforms on which it doesnt matter on what your age is, as long you are wary about on how it is or being curious and test it out then it will really be counted as one.

There's no way that we can be able to know specially into those young people to get involved with betting or gambling because on the time that their curiosity kicks in then
they will definitely be doing or trying it out.

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There is no one who is most vulnerable to gambling addiction, because everyone who is involved in gambling is already in the category of being vulnerable to gambling addiction, but I see that compared to those who are addicted, there are still many who make gambling just a fun activity so that they continue to use money that they can afford to lose and are able to stop at any time.

When we see some of our friends or closest people or also read/see news about people who are addicted, it does not mean that many are addicted, even a survey about those who are addicted may not fully describe what happens in real life.

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Quote from: Altryist on November 20, 2024, 07:27:15 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 20, 2024, 05:49:11 AM

A person who already engaged mostly don't care what others will going to say or to think about them, what is important to them is they can continue playing and they feed the addiction inside them, in your situation, that kind of a gambler alreay hook on and it's only the person itself who can remove him from this kind of of vices.

The last statement that you've mentioned, I think yes, if the person are not concern with their finances, they are more vulnerable as they've got money that they can spent compared to those young adults where they are just leaning with their allowance.

Then the one who plans the budget can feel more comfortable in gambling, because he will not lose more than his income allows him. If he is ready to take 5% of his salary for gambling, and this will not become a problem for the player in case of losing this money, then he excludes any possibility for further spending. And if you want to play more, then try to play with profit, then you will not need to worry about running out of money for gambling.

Of course and that is the reason why someone must have good management in their life especially if they are involved in an activity that involves risk, the benefits are very large, namely it can keep you balanced financially and will not interfere with your mental and psychological self when you experience defeat. To be honest, I usually only allocate a small amount of money every time I want to gamble on weekends such as 3-5% of my total income, and as you said when I want to play more then I usually do it when I have managed to achieve a number of wins in the sense that I only use a small amount of my initial capital and add to the amount of the winnings, but before taking such action I usually make sure that I will not mind if in the end everything is lost because of defeat.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 20, 2024, 05:49:11 AM

A person who already engaged mostly don't care what others will going to say or to think about them, what is important to them is they can continue playing and they feed the addiction inside them, in your situation, that kind of a gambler alreay hook on and it's only the person itself who can remove him from this kind of of vices.

The last statement that you've mentioned, I think yes, if the person are not concern with their finances, they are more vulnerable as they've got money that they can spent compared to those young adults where they are just leaning with their allowance.

Then the one who plans the budget can feel more comfortable in gambling, because he will not lose more than his income allows him. If he is ready to take 5% of his salary for gambling, and this will not become a problem for the player in case of losing this money, then he excludes any possibility for further spending. And if you want to play more, then try to play with profit, then you will not need to worry about running out of money for gambling.

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Quote from: Antotena on November 19, 2024, 12:20:02 PM

Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AM

It's true that the most addicted people initially had pre-existing mental conditions, if not their common sense should tell them that they cannot win back their losses as they keep on gambling to recover them back. It's a norm that a hard drug addict will gamble, because he will always love to gamble for profit in order to buy more drugs.

Teens are copy cats, they do whatever they see on tv or on social media without knowing the consequences attached to it. Some of them might want to do it for fun, but along the line, they become addicted they don't have anyone to help them.

It's easy for you to see it that way or perhaps I should say you are among the people that has the common sense. Not everyone can think the same, not everyone can let go of money quickly and not everyone can make a logical decision but we all have common goals, whether you are gambling for fun or not for fun, the end game is money has to be made. It's easy to start a gambling when you have the money but it's not easy for some to let casino take their money.

Even when they say gamble responsibly, body written in casino platforms and other physical gambling places for people to see, they don't listen or care about those things. Every semester in my school, student begged the student affairs for extension of school fees deadline so they can pay raise money to pay their school fees, meanwhile the parent gave them the money to pay the fee but they used it to gamble, that's not a sign of common sense but addiction problem.

Of course, everyone has different thoughts even though the goal is the same thing but they are not entirely the same in their thoughts and perceptions in doing what they do.
Some people who gamble are certainly not ready to lose the money they bet, but this is the wrong behavior because with this kind of behavior it will only make them trapped in the feeling of wanting to recover losses or in other words gambling addiction.
There is no sure thing who is most vulnerable because it is about each individual's thinking.
Gambling with money that should not be is the wrong behavior and of course this happens because of a strong sense of wanting to win or in other words addiction, we know that people who are addicted tend to do anything even if it is risky but because of the encouragement of strong thoughts of wanting to gamble they will still do it.

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Many people write here that poor people are most at risk of becoming addicted to gambling. Whereas I knew one very well-off person who lost simply cosmic amounts of money. He was even treated by a psychiatrist several times for gambling addiction, but even now, after more than twenty years, he still plays, although of course for very small amounts, since he lost his business a long time ago.
Therefore, the predisposition to become addicted to gambling is more due to the character of a person, rather than his well-being. Since there are more poor people than rich people, it seems that they are more susceptible to addiction, but this is a false relationship. Similarly, there are very rich drug addicts, but there are fewer of them than poor drug addicts. Simply because there are fewer rich people than poor people.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 19, 2024, 05:41:21 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 18, 2024, 01:24:05 PM

Better to find that diversion instead of pushing for more if you feel that adrenaline inside you, addiction may arise as you keep giving way it will grow and grow to the point that you can't hold or control, same with what you said it's look easy but the reality it's not, it just keep pushing you to seek for more the kind of situation where younger minds are more prone on getting addicted to it, which will be needed a closer attention from their friends and love ones to help them avoid those unnecessary actions that they might do.

Yes, I agree with that. If we keep on feeding that gambling habit, sooner or later it will change to addiction and I hope that we can realize that sooner before it becomes uncontrollable.
I've seen one but I think he is redeemable and he is a good friend of mine. He came here to my house with our friends on my birthday and I was intrigued by why his eyes were glued to his smartphone. When I approached him I saw that he was playing slots and to make things worse, he even asked if I had digital cash money so he could deposit more and keep on playing. That's gambling addiction because we are trying to enjoy the moments and celebrate while our mind is kept by the online slot game.
I think anyone is vulnerable, young or old. Actually, the old ones may be more vulnerable because they have incomes while the kids only rely on their allowances.

A person who already engaged mostly don't care what others will going to say or to think about them, what is important to them is they can continue playing and they feed the addiction inside them, in your situation, that kind of a gambler alreay hook on and it's only the person itself who can remove him from this kind of of vices.

The last statement that you've mentioned, I think yes, if the person are not concern with their finances, they are more vulnerable as they've got money that they can spent compared to those young adults where they are just leaning with their allowance.

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Quote from: Antotena on November 19, 2024, 12:20:02 PM

It's easy for you to see it that way or perhaps I should say you are among the people that has the common sense. Not everyone can think the same, not everyone can let go of money quickly and not everyone can make a logical decision but we all have common goals, whether you are gambling for fun or not for fun, the end game is money has to be made. It's easy to start a gambling when you have the money but it's not easy for some to let casino take their money.

Even when they say gamble responsibly, body written in casino platforms and other physical gambling places for people to see, they don't listen or care about those things. Every semester in my school, student begged the student affairs for extension of school fees deadline so they can pay raise money to pay their school fees, meanwhile the parent gave them the money to pay the fee but they used it to gamble, that's not a sign of common sense but addiction problem.

A student like you at school should not be given money in hand, but only when he goes to work himself, then let him work himself, only then will he learn the real value of money. If he starts losing it in this case, then it will be possible to help him, because you need to understand yourself and only with your mind that you should never play with all your money. It is difficult to predict and perhaps he can start playing in 10 years and do it without controlling himself. Nobody knows this, that is why it can also be dangerous.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AM

It's true that the most addicted people initially had pre-existing mental conditions, if not their common sense should tell them that they cannot win back their losses as they keep on gambling to recover them back. It's a norm that a hard drug addict will gamble, because he will always love to gamble for profit in order to buy more drugs.

Teens are copy cats, they do whatever they see on tv or on social media without knowing the consequences attached to it. Some of them might want to do it for fun, but along the line, they become addicted they don't have anyone to help them.

It's easy for you to see it that way or perhaps I should say you are among the people that has the common sense. Not everyone can think the same, not everyone can let go of money quickly and not everyone can make a logical decision but we all have common goals, whether you are gambling for fun or not for fun, the end game is money has to be made. It's easy to start a gambling when you have the money but it's not easy for some to let casino take their money.

Even when they say gamble responsibly, body written in casino platforms and other physical gambling places for people to see, they don't listen or care about those things. Every semester in my school, student begged the student affairs for extension of school fees deadline so they can pay raise money to pay their school fees, meanwhile the parent gave them the money to pay the fee but they used it to gamble, that's not a sign of common sense but addiction problem.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

Gambling is a lot easier to access now than before. So it is no surprise if more people find themselves gambling. Unfortunately, not a lot of us can be responsible enough to prevent ourselves from falling into deep addiction. This probes the question, who are the most vulnerable to falling into a gambling addiction?

The less privileged and the underage are a center of addiction and are most vulnerable to gambling that any other category of people that are into gambling. For the less privileged, they find a lot of hope through gambling hoping to take them easily out of their hardened life’s and get a fortune out of it one day which they never knew that it’ll just become an addiction and as they gain, they'll lose unless they get a good means to maybe invest their profit on something more sustainable and not on luck basis.

Underage can be addicted to gambling by peer group pressure. Your society and people you mingle with in the society has a lot of influence in you and when you are not up to their standards, you’ll want to level up to feel among and that will bring about considering a more quicker way to earn money which the society also have seen gambling as that route that’s easy to follow to get that money. So underage become addicted to it as they’re influenced to feel among with their peers so that they don’t look down on them in terms of lifestyle, and financial stability.

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The teenagers or those that enter into adoslescents are more prone to gambling. It's because they don't understand yet how it goes for one to earn money. They're all for the fun and games and when everything seems to show struggle, that's how they will just skip and do something else. They don't earn for a living yet and the money that they are gambling with are from their parents. With that, it's easier to spend money that you didn't worked for and this is on their case although their parents are doing the right thing in providing them some finances.

The teenager who want to make the money in the short period of time will do the gambling as their first position.Because the person who have good knowledge in the gambling will make the huge money with their skills.But the gamblers should understand the fact,they also risking the real money and losing the money will loss their real money in their gambling site.The money spending was easier one,but making the money from the gambling site or real business is not the easy one.

That's not always the case. The older, the more experienced gambler doesn't have guarantee to make huge money in gambling because of their skills. This is a misconception and that's why many gamblers are falling with this thought because they think that they're good as they with their skills and they won't be losing any money from it. They're also vulnerable so, everyone is prone but the younger ones are mostly vulnerable because I've been there and done that and I have done things that are against to the teachings of my parents just to gamble.

Gambling does not care about age and age clearly is not an indicator of help in here, the more experienced gamblers may know when to quit yet this does not mean that they are not vulnerable. I think that there is not a category of the most vulnerable, in gambling everyone is vulnerable to gambling addiction and no one is safe to be hit from it. What I can tell from my personal experience of well over 20 years now in both offline and online gambling is that the number one fuel of addiction is slot machines, as long as someone can be immune to the desire of playing slot machines I think is fine, so I am making a new category now, the most vulnerable is everyone who plays slot machines.

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