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Quote from: arjunmujay on November 11, 2024, 11:20:34 PM

everything you said is true, but there are still gamblers who depend on the results of gambling. the point is to keep winning and enjoy the results of their gambling.

especially for those whose orientation is to get a win, not making them happy, most of them because of their ego make them even more miserable with their defeat. and worse, when they experience defeat, they don't want to accept it and return to playing with passion and hope that at least their lost money will be returned.

I think those who have lost and cannot accept the defeat and then return to play are not playing with enthusiasm, but playing with emotions that are no longer under control because when they from the beginning could not accept the defeat or the loss of money that occurred, it was enough to prove that their emotions could not be controlled. I admit that sometimes controlling emotions is quite difficult, but over time with the training that was applied, it made it easy for me to control it, I even felt like I didn't lose money when I lost in gambling.

It is not a strange case if there are players who prioritize their egos and that makes them miserable, it is like something that cannot be avoided or even happens a lot. Apart from that, teenagers who currently cannot be far from gadgets, the internet and social media must be familiar with online gambling, I am sure of this.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 07, 2024, 09:28:30 AM

As someone who lives in a low middle income country, I'd say that low income earners are the most vulnerable. In my estimation, low income earners are the target of gambling advertising and marketing. The specific type of gambling being sports betting. Casinos are not popular here so it's mostly bet shops online and offline that you find low incom

This is true, from my observation also, it's the low income earners and the very poor that are most vulnerable to becoming gambling addicts, they see it as a shortcut to riches. You and I that are knowledge about what responsible gambling is, knows that gambling is not a get rich quick scheme, you win by luck. I don't know the accurate statistics of the category of people that gambles online but offline is definitely the poor from my observation. There are lots of sports bet and lotto shops in many localities in my country and you can observe that it's the ordinary poor people that patronizes these gambling spots.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on November 12, 2024, 05:16:34 PM

No doubt op list is accurate and IMO those who are depress either they encountered a problem or some other reason they choose to go all in meanwhile a therapist can help at the moment. I read an article relating to gambling surprising depression can also lead to addiction, at first I found this fact hard to believe not until I witnessed several gamblers gambling because they feel frustrated due to lack of job, money etc. seeing an average citizen gamble regular is normal but not all will lead to addiction basically they’re covered with the idea of making money so when they face lose they intend to quit for awhile, some gamblers might react differently towards lose but taking a break is the best.

Yeah, that could be one of the reasons. I think those who cannot make enough money with their work are the most prone of all because they want to feel the chance to have lots of money even if it's just for a month or two. But gambling doesn't work like that. If you lose, you might deposit repeatedly which could make you lose all your valued money which leads to depression and frustration.
It's not nice to be at that moment and I believe it's going to make things worse as a gambler would try again next time and he will probably be buried in debt as he goes on. It is also possible that it could lead to gambling addiction and it will be difficult to get out of that. Gambling will always call you back as long as we don't move on from what we lost.

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All the point stated I totally agree with you. But let’s see from this perspective. Not everyone in that category of people you stated are that vulnerable to become gamble addict.
Most at times it comes with decision and self discipline.
Most people tend to be that vulnerable when it comes to decisions making. The category of people can’t really make a concrete decision about their life.
As much as gambling is considered an escape route from poverty, There are poor people who after making huge wins from gambling use it as a stepping stone to go after their dreams and achieve success. Mean while some make the money and still squander the money in the same gambling. The difference is decision making and having a vision. Once something ends up influencing one’s decision making. Than that person end up a slave to that thing. Be it gambling or any other activity.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on November 11, 2024, 09:33:18 PM

I only know that two types of people gamble. One is the rich person, and another is the poor person. A poor person stops gambling when all of his money is gone. But a rich guy gambles to satisfy his ego and hence gets an addiction. Controlling the funds provided for gambling can really help these rich brats to stop gambling.

The same way the poor can gamble until they get broke and don't have any money again to sponsor their gambling life, that's also how the rich can end up with nothing if they don't gamble responsibly.

The poor are not the only ones that gamble for money, and no one is immune to addiction. You gamble without risk management and self-control; the high chance of losing money and yourself to the game is very high.

I think if we talk about gambling then most likely there will be no difference in terms of the impact that can be caused, the point is whoever you are, rich or poor if you gamble with the following methods and approaches also with the wrong mindset then you will end up losing all the money you have, the only difference here is in terms of time, in the sense that poor people will definitely experience a slump first while rich people may need a longer time considering their money is quite a lot and more than poor people.

On the other hand, yes I also agree with you that addiction applies to everyone and to all groups, just as I said above, there are no exceptions in this case which is the point if you gamble in the wrong way such as making money the main priority then addiction and slump are possibilities that you will definitely experience one day.

There's really no exemption into this one on where everyeone would really be having that chance on getting addicted no matter what kind of financial status you would really be having on which there's really that tendency that you will be able addicted into gambling and this is something that oyu do need to look into and wont really be careless into the things you've been dealing into. The only different about into those rich and poor people is that they are really that having those kind of situation where rich people could be able to sustain whereas, these poor people will that messed up their lives in a short period of time because they dont have much money and if ever they do have the money then they will really be trying out to gamble no matter what because they are trying to grasps with those odds or chances.

Vulnerability will really be basing up on whose really that been on the exposure of it, if you are really that not good with self control then you will really be getting curious and end the end
you might be able to test it up and you will really be that addicted if you cant be able to control yourself on playing on it.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on November 12, 2024, 05:28:03 PM

Quote from: Nrcewker on November 11, 2024, 09:33:18 PM

I only know that two types of people gamble. One is the rich person, and another is the poor person. A poor person stops gambling when all of his money is gone. But a rich guy gambles to satisfy his ego and hence gets an addiction. Controlling the funds provided for gambling can really help these rich brats to stop gambling.

The same way the poor can gamble until they get broke and don't have any money again to sponsor their gambling life, that's also how the rich can end up with nothing if they don't gamble responsibly.

The poor are not the only ones that gamble for money, and no one is immune to addiction. You gamble without risk management and self-control; the high chance of losing money and yourself to the game is very high.

I think if we talk about gambling then most likely there will be no difference in terms of the impact that can be caused, the point is whoever you are, rich or poor if you gamble with the following methods and approaches also with the wrong mindset then you will end up losing all the money you have, the only difference here is in terms of time, in the sense that poor people will definitely experience a slump first while rich people may need a longer time considering their money is quite a lot and more than poor people.

On the other hand, yes I also agree with you that addiction applies to everyone and to all groups, just as I said above, there are no exceptions in this case which is the point if you gamble in the wrong way such as making money the main priority then addiction and slump are possibilities that you will definitely experience one day.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AM

It's true that the most addicted people initially had pre-existing mental conditions, if not their common sense should tell them that they cannot win back their losses as they keep on gambling to recover them back. It's a norm that a hard drug addict will gamble, because he will always love to gamble for profit in order to buy more drugs.

Teens are copy cats, they do whatever they see on tv or on social media without knowing the consequences attached to it. Some of them might want to do it for fun, but along the line, they become addicted they don't have anyone to help them.

Gambling influence and other activities that influences one have a pre motivation behind it, just as you rightly said that addictions is a product of underlying mental illness, same also can be viewed with influence, because a thing can only influence someone who is attracted to such thing, so anyone that get influenced by gambling is already pre motivated to gamble and just waiting for the right time to venture into it, so for that we can categorized them among those self determined victims.

Same with Teens in our environments and home, many of them are already motivated by the why they either see they parent or any elderly person gamble and are motivated to do same, before the get influence along the line to start gambling, so they can't say that it just a thing of sudden outcome, but of long term preparation and admirations.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on November 11, 2024, 09:33:18 PM

I only know that two types of people gamble. One is the rich person, and another is the poor person. A poor person stops gambling when all of his money is gone. But a rich guy gambles to satisfy his ego and hence gets an addiction. Controlling the funds provided for gambling can really help these rich brats to stop gambling.

The same way the poor can gamble until they get broke and don't have any money again to sponsor their gambling life, that's also how the rich can end up with nothing if they don't gamble responsibly.

The poor are not the only ones that gamble for money, and no one is immune to addiction. You gamble without risk management and self-control; the high chance of losing money and yourself to the game is very high.

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No doubt op list is accurate and IMO those who are depress either they encountered a problem or some other reason they choose to go all in meanwhile a therapist can help at the moment. I read an article relating to gambling surprising depression can also lead to addiction, at first I found this fact hard to believe not until I witnessed several gamblers gambling because they feel frustrated due to lack of job, money etc. seeing an average citizen gamble regular is normal but not all will lead to addiction basically they’re covered with the idea of making money so when they face lose they intend to quit for awhile, some gamblers might react differently towards lose but taking a break is the best.

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Quote from: junder on November 11, 2024, 10:11:54 PM

It's true what you said with like buying something fun with the money you have, besides I think those who gamble for fun do not prioritize winning, meaning they are not too obsessed with pursuing victory or wanting to get victory because they do it just for fun or entertainment but people like this in my opinion are rarely found, because surely there are many people who want victory or in other words prioritize victory in every gamble they do.

Isn't possible that people who gambles for fun could also in the adventures of seeking to get fun and entertained self with gambling can likely get addicted to it? Because a lot of times we all talk about the money chasing aspect causing gambling addiction which I agree with but I was able to have a further thought about how gambling for fun can be harmful in same way as gambling for the sake of the money if there's no checks and self-control on the part of the gambler irrespective of what he gambles for.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on November 11, 2024, 09:33:18 PM

We can’t stop the addiction of others, but yes, if it’s about ourselves, then we need to always try hard to find the solution. I don’t think there are any specific categories who are vulnerable to the world of gambling. I only know that two types of people gamble. One is the rich person, and another is the poor person. A poor person stops gambling when all of his money is gone. But a rich guy gambles to satisfy his ego and hence gets an addiction. Controlling the funds provided for gambling can really help these rich brats to stop gambling.

Both players will stop when their money is exhausted or take loan. The indebted players are the most vulnerable gamblers, many of them develop depression. And find it hard to pay back the loan shark. However, gaming compulsion has no favorite, it could get to the rich, and milk all their wealth. Between, how would casinos regulate player's money? It'll be same as shooting themselves on the foot.

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From all indications, I think the low-income earners are more vulnerable to gambling addiction because that is their hope of profit making if they win a game. They put all their efforts and resources hoping to win games and they keep repeating it often and often without really taking their time to have thought over their gambling lifestyle. I am talking this as a result of my observation on gamblers from my locality. They are constantly at the betting shop playing games back to back and are never serious in life, they look disorganized and poorly coordinated.

It is true that these days teenagers are beginning to get gambling and at their age it could be very dangerous to do because they would not be able to control themselves when addiction sets in because of the win and chasing to recover loss. These are the major things that makes addiction sets in and when this happens, it would be very difficult for them to take a u turn because it is already part of them.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

We already know that less privileged people are more prone to getting addicted to gambling with the involvement of financial reward. They are the ones chasing more wins because they actually need the money. The more money they get, the deeper they get into the addiction.

This set of people are most likely to get addicted to gambling more. Even the economy of some countries will make the low income earners look for an alternative to their source of income and with the competitive state of things, it makes them looks for the most easiest way and less stressful way to make money and they result in gambling. Gambling can make you rich if it favours you some time and make you lose big when it’s not in your favour. It has an high risk tendency for low income earners engaging in it than it does for already rich folks.

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Another demographic that is more likely to get addicted to gambling are adolescents. Adolescents are aged 12-18. The rise of online casinos made way to more kids getting access into gambling. It is said that male adolescents are the ones most recorded to have ended up addicted in gambling. Their addiction is usually associated with sports and mobile games betting.

The peer group pressure have also contributed to this. When kids are growing up and find their mates living a more comfortable and luxurious life, social media folks in their age group also flaunting money and impressing their girlfriends, they tend to want to do the same. Meanwhile, not all that glitters is gold and they end up trying to copy that lifestyle and since they have no means and the IQ to get some knowledge themselves that’ll be productive, they settle for the less stress and yet more risky way to make money.

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I think, anyone will be very vulnerable to becoming a gambling addict, no matter their age because when they can gamble comfortably at the beginning then it will make them continue to gamble. Although indeed, those who are not comfortable gambling at the beginning can still fall into becoming gambling addicts, but if they have a high curiosity. If they do not have a high curiosity, then of course they will be easier to leave gambling. Basically gambling is a very interesting game and even, those who start only playing gambling with a demo account can also make it for deposits in the hope of getting easy wins like when they gamble using a demo account. Thus, anyone who tries to gamble then I think they will be vulnerable to becoming gambling addicts.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

who are the most vulnerable to falling into a gambling addiction?

I guess it's safe to say that the most vulnerable to gambling addiction are those people who doesn't want to work hard to get rich. These kind of people wants to get rich faster without getting into a lot of works and sacrifices, as they typically just want to gamble primarily and solely for easy money. A person who gambles for fun, doesn't really matter if he wins or he losses, because losing is part of the system and winning is just an extra reward while having fun. The people who gamble for money will always end up chasing their losses and always wishing for a jackpot.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

I am sharing this to raise awareness so more people are aware whether they fall under these categories I mentioned and may have high chances of becoming a gambling addict. Let’s keep ourselves informed and in check. Not only ourselves but our loved ones as well.

Thanks for these statistics, I didn't know that people who had any addictions before were so strongly committed to becoming potentially problematic gamblers. Apparently, those experts who claim that all addictions have one basis are right - to escape from reality and not to deal with responsibilities, to wait out the pain of losses or big failures. Nevertheless, I think that with infrequent sessions, gambling is even useful, because it is an excellent stress reliever. And I know many gamblers and betting enthusiasts on our forum who are very good at keeping themselves in hand.

This is one of those facts that may not be known by the general public, but they are known by the professionals that have to treat those people, as in their desire to leave their addiction behind, they begin to engage in other behaviors that are just as bad, so as time goes by those people begin to accumulate more and more addictions, to the point they cannot function anymore like a regular person and they may find impossible to go back to their previous lives.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

I am sharing this to raise awareness so more people are aware whether they fall under these categories I mentioned and may have high chances of becoming a gambling addict. Let’s keep ourselves informed and in check. Not only ourselves but our loved ones as well.

Thanks for these statistics, I didn't know that people who had any addictions before were so strongly committed to becoming potentially problematic gamblers. Apparently, those experts who claim that all addictions have one basis are right - to escape from reality and not to deal with responsibilities, to wait out the pain of losses or big failures. Nevertheless, I think that with infrequent sessions, gambling is even useful, because it is an excellent stress reliever. And I know many gamblers and betting enthusiasts on our forum who are very good at keeping themselves in hand.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 12, 2024, 09:03:14 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2024, 09:28:13 AM

This is different with the rich, even they're addicted to gambling, they're high unlikely to go broke, making them hard to be exposed.

That's why we often see stories from poor people than the rich.

Good observation.

When the rich gambles, it is not an issue or a concern because it hardly affects them (unless they go bankrupt). Most of the time, they are even praised or adored for having a hobby like that. People look up at them because they seem to be able to do whatever they want which is true but this doesn’t mean that it is wise. If not controlled, anyone rich will soon be in debt because of gambling. But how much rich people end up in that situation? Not as much as the poor.

The rich may lose much more money, but for them it may be insignificant compared to those players who count every penny and the loss for such players will be more painful than for the rich who lost only a small part of the money from his wallet. But in this case, it might be worthwhile for the poor to avoid gambling if it can have such an impact on his money. In this case, it is worth comparing what part of their money the poor and rich players are risking, this is the only way to understand what they are risking and how much a loss can affect their well-being.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2024, 09:28:13 AM

This is different with the rich, even they're addicted to gambling, they're high unlikely to go broke, making them hard to be exposed.

That's why we often see stories from poor people than the rich.

Good observation.

When the rich gambles, it is not an issue or a concern because it hardly affects them (unless they go bankrupt). Most of the time, they are even praised or adored for having a hobby like that. People look up at them because they seem to be able to do whatever they want which is true but this doesn’t mean that it is wise. If not controlled, anyone rich will soon be in debt because of gambling. But how much rich people end up in that situation? Not as much as the poor.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 07, 2024, 09:18:58 AM

who are the most vulnerable to falling into a gambling addiction?

Of course those who are vulnerable and easily influenced in online gambling are those who have high hallucinations, most of them are lazy to work, have high desires, especially in financial matters, They think that with $10 they can make $1 million, even though that will never happen until the end of the world.

Life is easy if you make it easy and life is difficult if you make it difficult, that's the point, the online gambling industry is currently booming and easy to access, plus everyone has an Android cellphone, including children and adults, That's the basic problem, plus Google just writes whatever will come out, for that reason if I think about it there is no solution and way to prevent those who gamble, unless the Android cellphone is removed, with the existence of online gambling almost everyone is susceptible to gambling.

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