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Quote from: mistanama on April 21, 2019, 02:44:53 AM

The whales are the one who are controlling the market because they have a lot of money to spare and that is how they work. They look for a specific cryptocurrency and once they are now aligned then they are going to pump that cryptocurrency and create some false hype and once the hype is real, they will dump their coins and they are just going to repeat the process.

This is the same activity of some institution focusing on stock market. Fortunately on stock market, market manipulation is prohibited under SEC regulations. That's why users and hodlers of crypto -currency should lobby to regulators on creating a law to limit this type of activities.

Eventually the market will be regulated, stock market been here for many years, bitcoin is just new and not everyone recognizes it.
As the adoption improves, proper regulation for crypto will also takes place, it needs time though.

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Quote from: mistanama on April 21, 2019, 02:44:53 AM

The whales are the one who are controlling the market because they have a lot of money to spare and that is how they work. They look for a specific cryptocurrency and once they are now aligned then they are going to pump that cryptocurrency and create some false hype and once the hype is real, they will dump their coins and they are just going to repeat the process.

This is the same activity of some institution focusing on stock market. Fortunately on stock market, market manipulation is prohibited under SEC regulations. That's why users and hodlers of crypto -currency should lobby to regulators on creating a law to limit this type of activities.

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The whales are the one who are controlling the market because they have a lot of money to spare and that is how they work. They look for a specific cryptocurrency and once they are now aligned then they are going to pump that cryptocurrency and create some false hype and once the hype is real, they will dump their coins and they are just going to repeat the process.

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Quote from: maianh09 on April 20, 2019, 11:48:12 PM

I think only a small number of investors are called whales capable of controlling the Cryptocurrency market. Large exchanges are also organizations that can control the market based on cooperation between them to create trends to make profits from traders participating in the margin. Some information suggests that some governments are trying to hoard Bitcoin to affect the market.

That could be true, they want to have a share of the total supply so in case it will become successful they already have the power.
It's hard to determine what's really happening or the value is showing the real market value of crypto since with whales, they can manipulate the price and that results to a manipulated market since bitcoin is the most dominant.

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Quote from: zikzag on April 11, 2019, 02:46:59 PM

I'm not sure that everything is decentralized. I think that big players can influence the market very much. And indicate the direction of the price.

Earlier it was possible for the "big" players to manipulate the market. But nowadays there are thousands of exchanges in existence and the daily transaction volume is over $10 billion. Billionaires can still manipulate the market by either dumping a huge amount of coins or placing huge buy orders, but over the years the market has grown so big that any impact from these steps will be short lived and ineffective.

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Quote from: maianh09 on April 20, 2019, 11:48:12 PM

I think only a small number of investors are called whales capable of controlling the Cryptocurrency market. Large exchanges are also organizations that can control the market based on cooperation between them to create trends to make profits from traders participating in the margin. Some information suggests that some governments are trying to hoard Bitcoin to affect the market.

That's not the only one factor that create cryptocurrency market trend. The market is influenced by two basic factors which are market sentiments (all stakeholders) and individual sentiment . As long as I know individual sentiment only have small power to affect the market which mean the effect that can be made is not for long term but the problem here is people are too afraid when there is big change in the market so people do panic selling or panic buying. That's how individual sentiment can influence market sentiments.

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I think only a small number of investors are called whales capable of controlling the Cryptocurrency market. Large exchanges are also organizations that can control the market based on cooperation between them to create trends to make profits from traders participating in the margin. Some information suggests that some governments are trying to hoard Bitcoin to affect the market.

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Quote from: TribalBob on April 20, 2019, 11:14:49 PM

I still believe that controlling the market is a collection of whales,
not only one whale, but many whales, especially whale gatherings in every country and in the world, this is only true we have never met in person or have access there.

only whales community that able controls the market.they have millions dollar that ready to injected in cryptocurrency market.and even they able to pay online media to spread fud and they will take advantages from it.

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Quote from: slivver on October 01, 2018, 12:36:56 PM

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

But there are many issues and one of those are the Whales is manipulating the market prices .this is something like controlling ghe market right?but in many wags i agreed on your point since we claim to be decentralized and volatile same as anonymous, i guess its better to accept that we are uncontrollable and have our own position in each matters

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I still believe that controlling the market is a collection of whales,
not only one whale, but many whales, especially whale gatherings in every country and in the world, this is only true we have never met in person or have access there.

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Quote from: cryptolord2077 on April 20, 2019, 12:17:03 PM

Volumes, volumes and volumes again. In my opinion, the market is controlled by those who have giant volumes and know how they can influence the market.

Nope thats a fallacy. The market is the sheep herd that overwhelms singular entities standing in its way. The reason its deceptive is the herd rarely is united in one direction against more visible singular 'large' players in the market. However the direction of the market is decided by the many not the few, its not often but trends are decided sometimes by popular ideas and genuine utility and trends. A drift in sentiment causes price direction to form.
The giant volumes argument only works so long as the herd universally follows that direction otherwise its just a short term move

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Quote from: nerlial on April 20, 2019, 03:18:02 AM

Larger whales control the market and can affect the prices of any decentralized currency. Ordinary players with weak hands have nothing to control, they just float on the waves.

Yes you are right whales the people who use to save so many bitcoin and other coins so that they sell it when the price rises high to make market down once again, selling so much coins at once can fall the enter market,, so panic selling is wrong decision people sell and buy again at low price they take advantage of the people who are not aware of crypto rise and fall nature.

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Volumes, volumes and volumes again. In my opinion, the market is controlled by those who have giant volumes and know how they can influence the market.

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Quote from: zikzag on April 11, 2019, 02:46:59 PM

I'm not sure that everything is decentralized. I think that big players can influence the market very much. And indicate the direction of the price.

They can actually but there are a lot of other investors in the market and even if they have a small amount, with a lot of them maybe selling and investing, it can also affect the price of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. If I will be answering the question, who controls the market? That would be us investors.

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Quote from: slivver on October 01, 2018, 12:36:56 PM

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

Generally speaking, there are no specific people who are controlling the market, just like what you have said, this market that we have is decentralized. But if you came up with your idea because you noticed that there are big changes that is happening in the market every single time, it is because of the whales. Whales are the people who have the biggest amount of cryptocurrencies, meaning, if they dump their altcoins whenever they like, the price of that altcoins in the market would change also, it would affect it, but it doesn't mean that they are controlling the market.

It is just a strategic way for them to gain more profits if everyone will dump their coins also because of panicking, being afraid that it might drop even more that is why they might do panic selling.

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The market is decentralized we all know that except those exchangers that is centralized. The investors control the market right and we are that investors even you invest a little amount of money you are now contributing to the movement of the market you are now one of the people who controls the market.

We have different of view by ananlyzing the situation, but I think it is about an ultimate high volatilities that affect the value of some coins. But some big whales had keep enormous profits that can also affect the market to change its way, either to pump or dump. And I think it is a wise way to gain massive profits as well, invest while it is affordable and keep our patience wide untill the bull trend occur.

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Quote from: slivver on October 01, 2018, 12:36:56 PM

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

those who have a lot of money will adjust the market and even it is a manipulation organization. They often focus on margin trading and make the price fluctuate reasonably. Sometimes, they can push the price of the BTC up to $ 10k in 15 seconds and make the BTC price drop very quickly after that. it is the power of money in the decentralized market and it is quite scary.

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Quote from: slivver on October 01, 2018, 12:36:56 PM

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

That's right, but the market controller is the rich. Small traders like us cannot decide the price of a coin. But if you have more than 1 million dollars in hand, you can manipulate an exchange.
This is also a negative point that people often mention. So to avoid risks, we should always place a stoploss order.

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Quote from: nerlial on April 20, 2019, 03:18:02 AM

Larger whales control the market and can affect the prices of any decentralized currency. Ordinary players with weak hands have nothing to control, they just float on the waves.

whales and institution investors controls price in cryptocurrency market.they have more resources and can do anything they want.even market crash they can do only by spreading fud without spend their money.and as retail trader we be their victim.

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Quote from: zikzag on April 11, 2019, 02:46:59 PM

I'm not sure that everything is decentralized. I think that big players can influence the market very much. And indicate the direction of the price.

Nobody can constantly monitor the cryptocurrency market. There are too many participants and their number continues to increase. However, the largest investors in cryptocurrency may well influence the cryptocurrency market, especially if they unite and act in the same direction. However, cryptocurrency is very different from the usual currency. It does not make sense to fully control yourself. In order to have demand and value, she must walk in society.

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