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Crypto.BI
April 09, 2019, 12:38:33 PM
Can't get any worse than what the Fed, ECB and other central banks do to fiat money.

They print money for bankers who buy all the wealth in the planet while everyone else works like a horse to make amends.

It's a ridiculous system.

Fed prints money, stock market goes up. It's all phony.

Once everyone realizes that their "real money" isn't but a ponzi, cryptocurrencies will become the defacto currency of the world.

Fiat won't even be needed any more.
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April 09, 2019, 12:35:06 PM
I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.
Whales have enough assets to initiate the panic sell, impetuous pump or to hold a price in some range. Yes, they do not have all amount of btc and top-altcoins but as we see it's not necessary to have control all over the cryptocurrencies to manipulate the market's trend. FOMO and FUD also have a big impact on the market's condition.
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April 09, 2019, 11:36:19 AM
I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.
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Atronocom
April 09, 2019, 04:03:42 AM
The cryptocurrency space is one that is decentralized and so no one controls pricing or the market.
The market moves in the direction of speculation.
And that is what influences pricing most of the time.
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April 09, 2019, 12:05:41 AM
Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.
In my opinion, the bitcoin market has no control, in the sense that it is able to control prices to go up or so that prices go down. Because to do that must have very large capital because the ownership of bitcoin has spread throughout the world.
So, prices will go up or will go down because there are large transactions that are caused by information that greatly affects bitcoin, besides that it is also a factor of supply and demand.
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March 18, 2019, 06:53:36 AM
indeed the bitcoin market price will also be difficult to predict, because it was seen in the last month the price of bitcoin also declined, but I believe there is now also a change in the price of bitcoin which is also starting to develop better.
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March 18, 2019, 06:48:47 AM
If there are no one controlling the market then what do you called the situation wherein there is a big pump in price or a huge dump in the market? At first, I was confused how the market really reacts but when i realized whales are other big investors are always there to manipulate the market, I now believe what others are saying about controlled market.
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March 17, 2019, 10:45:54 PM
Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.
There is a specific measure of a lot, and you should have a good share of the entire supply or circulating supply when you say a lot.

It should be millions of dollars in worth of your investment to called it a lot, today's marketcap is $71,443,878,02 and having at least 1% of that will require you to have at least $714,438,780.24, now that's what you called a lot.
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March 17, 2019, 09:39:41 PM
Most of the people don't care if a currency is decentralized or not and don't what it means too. They are just interested to make profits, no matter how. They jump on the new flower of the month, invest some cash and sit down until the flower blooms.
How it works, or what it is exactly doesn't matter to them
there are always those who control the market, market controllers are usually large investors or giant traders with very large holdings, they will be able to control value according to their interests, but there are some giant financiers who always compete in price control and they usually always create a market situation unstable, the aim is to be able to set prices according to their goals.
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COVIR.IO
March 17, 2019, 08:26:27 PM
the crypto market is indeed decentralized and not controlled by anyone. but I think the crypto market is strongly influenced by the amount of supply and demand. and the amount of supply and demand is influenced by the FUD and also the presence of large whales who buy or sell bitcoin in large quantities. of course this can affect the market.

I am agree, decentralized market doesnt mean can not manipulated. Group people with large capital can manipulate the price if holding most stake from total supply. I think regulation needed in crypto market
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March 17, 2019, 06:11:22 PM
The free market is a natural phenomena, it could have human characteristics but there is no one face to it or even a cartel of faces controlling the BTC price.     The people I see most seriously speculate this being true are doing so as part of an argument to state BTC is a ponzi scheme.   This should have been disproved and self evident by now.

Put it this way, we have well known actual cartel in Oil pricing.   OPEC is well recognised but examine their control to dominate markets and its very imperfect as the source of supply and demand is beyond their reach absolutely.   There is influence they exert but the realities are the producers of Oil have giant costs they must meet and they have to sell as much as possible in many cases.    This is true of most people for BTC, the miners have costs to their operations.   If somehow they could ignore costs then maybe they could toy with and manipulate supply a little
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March 17, 2019, 01:37:23 PM
Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.
hero member
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March 17, 2019, 11:34:47 AM
the crypto market is indeed decentralized and not controlled by anyone. but I think the crypto market is strongly influenced by the amount of supply and demand. and the amount of supply and demand is influenced by the FUD and also the presence of large whales who buy or sell bitcoin in large quantities. of course this can affect the market.
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March 17, 2019, 09:14:08 AM
if in my own opinion it is a user like an investor because it has a big impact on the market, the problem is that if more and more people adopt coins moreover the bitcoin will be very fast the market will rise, and vice versa if many people sell their coins
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March 17, 2019, 08:48:02 AM
Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

I think all people who use the crypto market is the only control the market. Every dump and pump is because of us its really depend on the demand of every person who trade in the market what will be the out come of the market everyday.

A group of people with enough cash can affect currency prices. Thus, the market is not only dependent on supply or demand, or on every person trading on the market, but also on whales who may try to manipulate prices.
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March 17, 2019, 08:18:07 AM
There are many stakeholders when it comes to market control.  The investors, whales,  traders, dev team and admin of centralized exchange they mostly responsible for the high ans low of the general crypto market
i think only biggest token holder and money could controll price in market.they will easily played price in the market with their resources.but usually they were consortium not single person.
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March 17, 2019, 05:48:34 AM
Cryptocurrency is largely a decentralized virtual currency .
No one or organization controls it.
Although I heard that the big market players has the power to influence the market price of coins ...which is highly subjective by the way.
One thing I am dilure if it that the market price of coins is largely controlled by news whether it's genuine or fake.
jr. member
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March 17, 2019, 03:10:52 AM
There are many stakeholders when it comes to market control.  The investors, whales,  traders, dev team and admin of centralized exchange they mostly responsible for the high ans low of the general crypto market
hero member
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March 17, 2019, 01:45:49 AM
those who have enough money to be able to exert influence on the market and also those who have influence over it will also have an effect, so we cannot speculate about the price of bitcoin

These people are usually not individual people, they are group or institution and it's easy for them to control the market as they hold a significant numbers of the total supply. Their popular terms in the crypto space is whales, they can they can manipulate the market which will result to a pump and dump.
sr. member
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March 16, 2019, 10:36:55 PM
those who have enough money to be able to exert influence on the market and also those who have influence over it will also have an effect, so we cannot speculate about the price of bitcoin
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