Topic: Who else is fed up with the core development team? - page 3. (Read 3317 times)
These are volunteers, and I think they put in great efforts!
I'm not fed up with them at all. They seem to be rational, reasonable people who are disciplined in their approach to the work. They've done a pretty damn good job thus far. My only complaint is the significant amount of Technical Debt that has accumulated but that's common in almost every software project.
dev team? Oh yes, great job well done!
Ok maybe there is some more work to do.
Could be priorities might be arguable.
So what? Such is life!
Ok maybe there is some more work to do.
Could be priorities might be arguable.
So what? Such is life!
As a software architect myself, I am very happy with the core development team.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
Your software architect and your happy with them? I don't want work for you, I am curious what company do you do software architecting for, I want to make sure I don't buy their software.
They are hurting the community. So apparently a DDOS cause by old Satoshi written code, that could be used to do a DDOS attack. So yeah when do they do testing? I am guessing never, it sounds like this should have been tested and fixed a longgggggggg time ago. And they all think they deserved to get paid? I have yet to see a worthy thing of them getting paid. I guess taking interviews, and slamming companies just takes up that testing time.
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
If anything them getting paid is a positive. It allows them to focus more on bitcoin instead of other jobs or commitments.
Never knew about that Windows calculator bug. What a steaming pile.
Armory is basically the only reason that I keep bitcoin-qt running. I love that software Etothepi is one great developer. He is probably better than the core development team, yet Gavin and Jeff get paid, this guy puts on the line his time and life, so we can have great software. And he is just one person!
I think Casascius summed this up nicely last year:
Right, we should be looking at the big corporations for an example of how to properly organize and write software that isn't so anti-talented. Like Microsoft, who has had half a dozen tries to get their calculator right with every new release of Windows (I assume this calculator is used often in the same "financial world" you're talking about). In spite of an update mechanism that would let them push out unlimited revisions they felt were necessary, even in fully-patched and up-to-date Windows 7 x64, when faced with something as simple as sqrt(4) - 2 (which should be zero), it gives some ridiculous negative number with lots of decimal places.
That's besides the main point: obviously you come with a lot of good ideas as to how Bitcoin needs to scale and evolve into world-class work. But showing up and running your mouth and copping an attitude of contempt toward the other contributors to the project isn't a particularly effective way to contribute. Assuming you genuinely care about the project, unless you plan to implement all your ideas yourself, try to be less of an asshole, so that you can spend your social capital on organizing others' efforts to steer the project the way you think it ought to go, instead of blowing it all on an ill-conceived plot to look like the baddest badass the forum has ever seen.
Well, the reality is that Bitcoin is far from perfect (in the financial software engineering realm) and has an unfortunate property of attracting some of the worst programming anti-talent. The profession of software engineering is completely unregulated, neither legaly nor morally. This is unlike eg. construction engineering, where enough people died in collapsed structures or simply lost the roof over their head to understand the value of the "building code". Similarly, one doesn't have to be electrical engineer to understand the value of "electrical code" or a firefighter to understand the value of "fire safety code".
Right, we should be looking at the big corporations for an example of how to properly organize and write software that isn't so anti-talented. Like Microsoft, who has had half a dozen tries to get their calculator right with every new release of Windows (I assume this calculator is used often in the same "financial world" you're talking about). In spite of an update mechanism that would let them push out unlimited revisions they felt were necessary, even in fully-patched and up-to-date Windows 7 x64, when faced with something as simple as sqrt(4) - 2 (which should be zero), it gives some ridiculous negative number with lots of decimal places.
That's besides the main point: obviously you come with a lot of good ideas as to how Bitcoin needs to scale and evolve into world-class work. But showing up and running your mouth and copping an attitude of contempt toward the other contributors to the project isn't a particularly effective way to contribute. Assuming you genuinely care about the project, unless you plan to implement all your ideas yourself, try to be less of an asshole, so that you can spend your social capital on organizing others' efforts to steer the project the way you think it ought to go, instead of blowing it all on an ill-conceived plot to look like the baddest badass the forum has ever seen.
Not really, that should have been an easy test and fix.
If so, why haven't you proposed a solution, alongside producing code to fix it?
Cause I am not a core developer, nor do I have the time. Most of my day is spend meeting with investors, helping people setup POS systems that accept bitcoins, getting hired for other projects, talking to groups of people about why bitcoin is great for them, writing my own client, and like 20 more things. I barely have enough time for my family and now I should be fixing code for free, that other people get paid to do? LMAO your kidding right...
As a software architect myself, I am very happy with the core development team.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
Your software architect and your happy with them? I don't want work for you, I am curious what company do you do software architecting for, I want to make sure I don't buy their software.
Worked as an architect for a European central bank some time back... I know how difficult it is to keep in check all possible attack vectors. The core development team is doing a great job.
As a software architect myself, I am very happy with the core development team.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
You can also vote with your development skills. 
Or with your Bitcoins. You can also vote with your development skills.
I am in the process of doing that, but still need a full node of the reference client.
Development team. Keep up the good work.
I hate when newbies, feel they can comment on things that have been going on for a long time.
I disagree, finding all possible bugs in a bigger software is a lifetime job.
They are doing a good job so far.
They are doing a good job so far.
Not really, that should have been an easy test and fix. I worked on some large project and I have personality found bugs smaller than that just cause my test cases were boarder.
As I said I don't expect this thread to be in my favor, just needed to voice an opinion and make sure the community was in check.
Not really, that should have been an easy test and fix.
If so, why haven't you proposed a solution, alongside producing code to fix it?
Not me.
Keep up the good work gents.
Keep up the good work gents.
You haven't been around here long, you kinda used to it. I remember a different time.
thats like your opinion man.
So are opinions bad? Their is also some facts to prove that they aren't doing their job, up to good standards. Look at the bug that they fixed today. No reason why good testing and knowing the code of the client shouldn't have picked that up. look at the dbconfig thing again no reason why testing shouldn't have picked that up.
If the devs were actually doing damage to Bitcoin, things would change. Give me one example of them trying to mess up Bitcoin. No programmer is perfect, and no code is perfect either. Shit gets fixed as it gets fixed. Calm down. If you have giant issues with the client bugs or whatever, pick up a C++ book and release patches for them by yourself. The code is open-source.
As I mention above I knew I would get this, I have chosen a different path for my skill set. I have decided to help the economy and get the word out. If I was a core developer I would have forked it by now. Examples one of the devs slams a bitcoin company for how they use the blockchain. I think that is a good example of how they messed up bitcoin. They do things out of not thinking, they act on emotion. Gavin and Jeff both get paid yet the quality hasn't changed, and they still haven't fixed the blockchain which is an important part. If I was getting paid to develop the bitcoin-qt I would be working day and night to test and re-test and maybe once an awhile use the salary to hire more people. Unless Gavin doesn't believe in bitcoin and he just cashes his salary out right away, then those coins should have gone up in value since he started getting paid. Which for the record, he whined about and force the community to create a foundation.
They are hurting the community. So apparently a DDOS cause by old Satoshi written code, that could be used to do a DDOS attack. So yeah when do they do testing? I am guessing never, it sounds like this should have been tested and fixed a longgggggggg time ago. And they all think they deserved to get paid? I have yet to see a worthy thing of them getting paid. I guess taking interviews, and slamming companies just takes up that testing time.
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
You can also vote with your development skills.
I disagree, finding all possible bugs in a bigger software is a lifetime job.
They are doing a good job so far.
They are doing a good job so far.
Development team. Keep up the good work.
If the devs were actually doing damage to Bitcoin, things would change. Give me one example of them trying to mess up Bitcoin. No programmer is perfect, and no code is perfect either. Shit gets fixed as it gets fixed. Calm down. If you have giant issues with the client bugs or whatever, pick up a C++ book and release patches for them by yourself. The code is open-source.
They are hurting the community. So apparently a DDOS cause by old Satoshi written code, that could be used to do a DDOS attack. So yeah when do they do testing? I am guessing never, it sounds like this should have been tested and fixed a longgggggggg time ago. And they all think they deserved to get paid? I have yet to see a worthy thing of them getting paid. I guess taking interviews, and slamming companies just takes up that testing time.
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
We need a new development team, one that has the morals of not getting paid and being greedy.
I know this is going to get me a lot more ignores, but someone has to say it, and if it is me, the so be it. I think they are disgrace to the community. I hope the foundation gets shutdown, and sued for every single penny they have.
And before people tell me that I should switch clients and vote with my downloads, that is easier said then done, but I am in the process and most my servers run my own "client" plus two other clients, (Supernode (Java) and btcd (Go))
thats like your opinion man.
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