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Quote from: Etranger on March 25, 2022, 10:49:06 AM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 25, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

If it is war between two countries like the Russia-Ukraine war other countries will benefit from it when it comes to supply of food and other services, their is no way which other countries won't benefit from it.

This is a very narrow view that takes into account only one side and completely ignores the other. Yes, other countries can benefit from supplying weapons to Ukraine. But this aggressive war has already badly affected world markets. Fuel and food prices have risen sharply. All European countries have already experienced this. Business is closing, trade routes are being lost, the tourism sector is suffering. These factors cannot be excluded from the equation. I think they not only compensate possible gains, but also exceed them.

I agree to this because Russia is the 2nd exporting country of crude oil and as we can see the prices have risen up. Thinking about the situation in both countries (Russia and Ukraine) is having selfish mindset because they are not the only one who's really compensating about the changes. Maybe some people might benefit for this situation such as; goods, services etc. but it is only because the damage is too much.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 25, 2022, 08:53:37 AM

If it is war between two countries like the Russia-Ukraine war other countries will benefit from it when it comes to supply of food and other services, their is no way which other countries won't benefit from it.

This is a very narrow view that takes into account only one side and completely ignores the other. Yes, other countries can benefit from supplying weapons to Ukraine. But this aggressive war has already badly affected world markets. Fuel and food prices have risen sharply. All European countries have already experienced this. Business is closing, trade routes are being lost, the tourism sector is suffering. These factors cannot be excluded from the equation. I think they not only compensate possible gains, but also exceed them.

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Quote from: Ebede on March 21, 2022, 11:36:32 AM

Supposing war world three starts who will gain from it ?
I think nobody gamins from it because if it does happen today all humans will die.
But in Normal gun fire and invasion both the rich and poor losses from it.
Scammers target big happenings like this and Gian heavily from them, we all should take note.

If it is war between two countries like the Russia-Ukraine war other countries will benefit from it when it comes to supply of food and other services, their is no way which other countries won't benefit from it. Also What they may be supplying to other countries for business before the war started another country will take after it to cover up, so it is an opportunity the country who take the supplying business.

If it is world war three it will affect many countries in different ways, even if the war may not reach some countries.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on March 24, 2022, 06:20:36 PM

Let us not go to war again. We cannot afford to "win" another war, so let us not go to war. There would be no way to win this war. There is only loss, and it comes at a staggering cost in lives, money, and the squandered opportunity to do anything better with our collective time and resources. War is more than just tragic. It's also becoming increasingly stupid and pointless. We are absconding in the larger and more important fight for the planet's habitability whenever we fight each other. War can no longer be justified as the last resort when all other options have failed. Instead, war must be viewed as a failure in and of itself.

We are already at war, it is unwise to deny it. Just as it is naive to think that putin's henchmen will stop only in Ukraine. russia is already actively preparing its population to attack Poland and the Baltic states. In their media discourse, information is spread that these countries are not friendly, and that they are not separate states at all, but part of the Soviet empire that was tragically destroyed by the West. Consequently, russia has every right to return them. And I, as a citizen of Ukraine, which has already been attacked by this savage horde, have no doubt that they are able to continue to do so, especially given that they are convinced that the West is not stopping them now. If they move forward, the question of war will no longer be hypothetical. This will be a new reality for the whole world. A reality in which Ukraine has been already living for 1 month and 1 day.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

There is no winner in a war, only gainers. Gainers are the weapon manufacturers, bullets and other armaments' supplies. If there is no war there will be less income. Both parties that engaged in a high escalated war are losers, the citizens suffer, the community and also the animals. In a worst condition nuclear warheads are used, it could impact not only included countries but also the neighboring ones. Pollution and radiation is visible and the economy falls.

Let us not go to war again. We cannot afford to "win" another war, so let us not go to war. There would be no way to win this war. There is only loss, and it comes at a staggering cost in lives, money, and the squandered opportunity to do anything better with our collective time and resources. War is more than just tragic. It's also becoming increasingly stupid and pointless. We are absconding in the larger and more important fight for the planet's habitability whenever we fight each other. War can no longer be justified as the last resort when all other options have failed. Instead, war must be viewed as a failure in and of itself.

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When war break out within a country or two Countries, there are lot of people benefits from it.

I hope the people that gain more on war are the people that supplied food stuff and Amination.

Because I could remember the civil war in my country. America and other countries supported A side and supplied them guns and pullets with foods and the B side of the war was supported by Russian and others and they were supplied with guns and pullets and food stuff. The A stopped the boundaries of the country by not allowing food stuff to enter B side, because when war is going on nobody goes to farm or sell. So with that logic the A side won the war.

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Quote from: Etranger on March 23, 2022, 10:55:10 AM

I don`t think all people would die in case of the WW III. For example, Switzerland has bunkers for all its population, this is the country, which could have survived the nuclear attak.

I think, whoever wins this big war, will win on the one hand and lose on another. It is obvious for me that the war changes everything, the life will never become as it was. I can say that as a witness of war, happening in my country right now. When this horror ends, all of us would have to find another ways to live and function. The winner will gain because it would win. But later life can pose challenges that will be very difficult to deal with. And the struggle will begin again, but different. So I don't think the question who gains from war is correct. It's like asking who benefits from historical change.

Wars any kinds of it have happened before but that didn't extinct the human because why we are here? That only means that our parents or grandparents have survived it. There are safe houses that are built before the war occurs and people use that places to hide.

Any massive damage cant penetrate it because it's usually located under the ground. The only risk if it will be discovered by the enemy because they can kill all the people that are inside it. In which country your in mate? Ukraine? Don't worry because the world is at your side and even if you lose technically, you are still be the winner from our hearts because you are too strong to fight til the end.

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I don't see anyway journalists gain from wars based on the fact that they endanger their lives in the midst of war to capture the moments and break news for the public about. Journalism is actually like a humanitarian job as far as international politics is concerned.

The profit earners in war are the neighbouring countries and the interest filled countries. For interest filled countries, these are countries that might be profiting in a particular due to their supply of armors and other fighting equipments to those at war, while some might be that they're gain from an increase in price of a supply of a particular natural resources(comparative advantage) like crude oil, others may be the aids they would likely be receiving by giving refuge to the citizens of the Waring countries, etc.

So critically looking at the Russia and Ukraine war currently on going, I see no avenue through which journalists are gaining from such war.

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In fact third party countries are hiding their huge interests because of the war provokes people and pursues their own interests. Another aspect of this war is that the recent bloody conflict between china and india over the covid-19 situation has somewhat subsided. There is an awakening of more and more religious nationalism in the internal politics of india.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on March 22, 2022, 08:58:11 AM

Unfortunately, there are winners and those are the elites of a nation. Even right now in Russia there are some elites that are making some profits from this. Sure there are plenty that loses money as well but it is obvious that there will be a few that will make money by taking advantage of this current situation.

I have to say there are too many bad people in the world that takes advantage of the situations like these and make money. Back in the day, we had an earthquake and a lot of people died, TV news showed horrible people who "helped" with the wreckage and then stole stuff from these wreckage. That is right, people stole the belongings of dead earthquake victims.

I didn't look to that side of reality, and it's my bad but to consider things it's true!

There are some who will grab these opportunities to earn even it comes from the evil way they will take it and enjoy.
Sad to say, but if greed controls the people over, there's none that they can' do. Even sacrificing the lives of many
If they will take away huge amount of benefits, that doesn't matter to them. Evil deeds are always around and mostly
because of greed.

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No one gains in war, absolutely no one! It's lost all the way and mostly innocent souls loosing lives, there nothing to gain in war, it's not good af all, war destroys everything, and keeps the world in chaos, no gain in war, it is never advisable to engage in war, never!

For those who are involved in the war directly, of course there is no advantage, but for other countries that supply to the country whose war is certainly a very big advantage, when the war is of course many industries that will stop so that the war will be imports from its producing countries, and of course food ingredients will skyrocket so that some countries will benefit because they can supply.

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Quote from: Vaculin on March 23, 2022, 02:34:08 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 27, 2022, 04:51:22 PM

Most are losers and a few are gainers.

It's sad that the majority are the losers, lost their lives, homes, relatives, and almost everything. While those companies that have been selling weapons for wars are in gain without any loss to them.

Both have been losing, their ammos, military, and innocent citizens' life and hopefully, they'll prevent that from happening and start having a truce.

Its a sad reality that even at the middle of a war, business still happens. And its always those who supply the weapons end up gaining from this war. But for those victims who are the citizens, they lose everything they have, family, home and all their belongings.

If Putin has thought of the consequences first, he must had saved lives than putting an end to them. In the end, the leader of the country should always take the blame.

So the main thing on here is that choose wisely for your country leader and not just simply voting up without any basis.Dictatorial type? Its good on some angle or cases but being too aggressive will always be resulting

on high chance on commencing war against countries whether for their own personal interest or having some intent behind which we could not really tell.Gaining something out from war
then merchants and other war supplies would really gain out also into those construction services too after the war which would really be in profits in rebuilding.

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Quote from: Etranger on March 23, 2022, 10:55:10 AM

Quote from: Ebede on March 21, 2022, 11:36:32 AM

Supposing war world three starts who will gain from it ?
I think nobody gamins from it because if it does happen today all humans will die.
But in Normal gun fire and invasion both the rich and poor losses from it.
Scammers target big happenings like this and Gian heavily from them, we all should take note.

I don`t think all people would die in case of the WW III. For example, Switzerland has bunkers for all its population, this is the country, which could have survived the nuclear attak.

I think, whoever wins this big war, will win on the one hand and lose on another. It is obvious for me that the war changes everything, the life will never become as it was. I can say that as a witness of war, happening in my country right now. When this horror ends, all of us would have to find another ways to live and function. The winner will gain because it would win. But later life can pose challenges that will be very difficult to deal with. And the struggle will begin again, but different. So I don't think the question who gains from war is correct. It's like asking who benefits from historical change.

even so, I don't think this is a guarantee because when we talk about nuclear it will only explode and then finish, the impact will be very felt if this does break out and happens and I don't want that to happen. because indeed, if this happened, almost everyone would feel the impact of this because it was not only about the political sector, but also many lives were definitely lost, not to mention the effect it had on the economy.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 27, 2022, 04:51:22 PM

Most are losers and a few are gainers.

It's sad that the majority are the losers, lost their lives, homes, relatives, and almost everything. While those companies that have been selling weapons for wars are in gain without any loss to them.

Both have been losing, their ammos, military, and innocent citizens' life and hopefully, they'll prevent that from happening and start having a truce.

Its a sad reality that even at the middle of a war, business still happens. And its always those who supply the weapons end up gaining from this war. But for those victims who are the citizens, they lose everything they have, family, home and all their belongings.

If Putin has thought of the consequences first, he must had saved lives than putting an end to them. In the end, the leader of the country should always take the blame.

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Quote from: Ebede on March 21, 2022, 11:36:32 AM

Supposing war world three starts who will gain from it ?
I think nobody gamins from it because if it does happen today all humans will die.
But in Normal gun fire and invasion both the rich and poor losses from it.
Scammers target big happenings like this and Gian heavily from them, we all should take note.

I don`t think all people would die in case of the WW III. For example, Switzerland has bunkers for all its population, this is the country, which could have survived the nuclear attak.

I think, whoever wins this big war, will win on the one hand and lose on another. It is obvious for me that the war changes everything, the life will never become as it was. I can say that as a witness of war, happening in my country right now. When this horror ends, all of us would have to find another ways to live and function. The winner will gain because it would win. But later life can pose challenges that will be very difficult to deal with. And the struggle will begin again, but different. So I don't think the question who gains from war is correct. It's like asking who benefits from historical change.

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Most war fought by countries are just to take control of another country's wealth just for an economic gain which could come in form of money or resources. It is not the journalists alone that gains or make money from war, the government also do.
An examples of war that was fought as to make money (economic gain) was Anglo-Indian Wars in 1766-1849.

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Anglo-Indian Wars (1766-1849) – The Anglo-Indian wars were a series of wars fought between the British East India Company and different Indian states. These wars led to the establishment of British colonial rule in India, which gave Britain unrestricted access to exotic and valuable resources native to the Indian continent.

As you can see the gain was made by the government not the journalist. When these valuable resources are traded or utilized, the country get money and become wealthy.
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Quote from: Pamadar on March 21, 2022, 04:56:22 AM

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When there is war, those in power or the authorities would send their children out of the country and to a safer location where they wouldn’t be affected by the war. And they themselves will also be the location where the war will also not affect them.

It is usually the poor people that just goes in at their orders to fight against themselves and lose their lives for these elites. So, it never even affects those at the top. Their own is just to sit there and make orders, while the poor people die for the decision that they make and they do not care at all because they and their families are not the ones that are being affected by the war they start.

In that same sense, practically speaking, those who are in high class can do that and let the poor left and be sacrificed.

No winner all are in the side of damages that the war created not only between two rival nations
but also to the neighboring countries who have deals with them.

Look what's happening right now. These two nations are not just damaging their physical land, but also
the economy where the main victims are the people around.

Unfortunately, there are winners and those are the elites of a nation. Even right now in Russia there are some elites that are making some profits from this. Sure there are plenty that loses money as well but it is obvious that there will be a few that will make money by taking advantage of this current situation.

I have to say there are too many bad people in the world that takes advantage of the situations like these and make money. Back in the day, we had an earthquake and a lot of people died, TV news showed horrible people who "helped" with the wreckage and then stole stuff from these wreckage. That is right, people stole the belongings of dead earthquake victims.

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Quote from: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on March 21, 2022, 01:40:24 PM

Although the issue of war is not desirable for anyone, through its various organizations, countries, and individuals are engaged in achieving their objectives. Journalists and organizations involved in the war are directly and indirectly benefiting from the war, but in many other cases, the individuals involved are benefiting even more. Weapons companies make huge profits through war, and many more beneficiaries seek to take advantage of the crisis created by the war. At the present time, we will see that due to the current war situation, the prices of various commodities, including fuel oil, have risen and have an impact on various sectors. Thus it can be said that as a result of the war many organizations, directly and indirectly, the country and individuals try to fulfill their objectives both economically and politically.

That's right, unscrupulous people make a profit on someone else's misfortune, unfortunately, there are many, many more of those people than we think! You and I have written something similar, but I have lived in such times and seen too many war profiteers, from the small ones who stole from the houses of people who escaped to the big ones who transported trucks and planes of cigarettes, oil, fuel and all the other things that sell like crazy in war times, because you can't find them in the stores! Even after 20 years, some trials for that are ongoing, some are outdated and millionaires have got away with it!
For some, war is a disaster, and for some, it is an opportunity to show and take their place, in the worst possible way, and that is with the help of weapons!

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Although the issue of war is not desirable for anyone, through its various organizations, countries, and individuals are engaged in achieving their objectives. Journalists and organizations involved in the war are directly and indirectly benefiting from the war, but in many other cases, the individuals involved are benefiting even more. Weapons companies make huge profits through war, and many more beneficiaries seek to take advantage of the crisis created by the war. At the present time, we will see that due to the current war situation, the prices of various commodities, including fuel oil, have risen and have an impact on various sectors. Thus it can be said that as a result of the war many organizations, directly and indirectly, the country and individuals try to fulfill their objectives both economically and politically.

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Supposing war world three starts who will gain from it ?
I think nobody gamins from it because if it does happen today all humans will die.
But in Normal gun fire and invasion both the rich and poor losses from it.
Scammers target big happenings like this and Gian heavily from them, we all should take note.

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