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Quote from: tyz on March 02, 2022, 06:48:39 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

First and foremost, of course, the defense industry benefits, as do the energy and oil industries, as well as the supply industry (e.g. food, but also medicines). Industries that serve entertainment or travel, for example, will lose . Certainly, the media will also win, since people simply consume more news and thus, of course, more advertising can be sold. From a war there are always those who profit and those who lose.

I am not sure if the energy companies really benefit from this war? I mean not the Russian ones for sure .They have been providing energy to west so far, and that means they are not going to be able to do the same thing nowadays because of the situation. I am not saying that it should not be really working for the benefit of European energy companies, maybe they will be charging a lot more and that could be understandable.

At the end of the day, we are talking about something that is not clear. Media and Defense industry definitely benefits. For example, Ukraine has been paying tens of millions of dollars to Turkey just for some drones, and that's a very profitable business for them. One side kills their enemy and defends their land, the other makes money from their products. All in all aside from energy, I do agree with the other two that you mentioned.

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War is very terrible experience that no one benefits from it, not even the journalist. In war you can only find few journalists that are on duty, which is very risky to them that they may even lost their life in the process of their media work. As far as their is war in a country nobody benefits from it. everyone lives in tension , there won't be flow of Money. It can also affect journalists who are at work I am still wondering how can journalists benefits from war.

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I am guessing about the war companies? More like weapon companies but they are coming in all different shapes and sizes these days. Just to give an example we have seen war drones recently made from Turkey used in 3-4 different wars. It was used in Libya, it was used in Azerbeijan, was used somewhere else I can't remember and these days used by Ukraine as well.

I do not understand why we need war at all, we should be avoiding war at all times but if we can't, then whatever you use in a war is profiting that company. Buying a war drone costs as much as millions of dollars, since you do not buy only one, that means we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from just one nation, do it to 3-4 different nations and you already sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth product.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

I've read that a warring country will benefit certain parties, basically war results in losses in general, especially the loss of life and property, there are times when a war occurs, other parties have the opportunity to take advantage, for example selling war equipment or basic materials at a double price, donations being misused and so on.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

First and foremost, of course, the defense industry benefits, as do the energy and oil industries, as well as the supply industry (e.g. food, but also medicines). Industries that serve entertainment or travel, for example, will lose . Certainly, the media will also win, since people simply consume more news and thus, of course, more advertising can be sold. From a war there are always those who profit and those who lose.

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Quote from: kapalmabur on March 02, 2022, 05:27:23 AM

The ones who will benefit the most from this war are of course weapons suppliers

What do you think will do those countries that send unmanned aerial vehicle, missiles, rocket launchers, military vehicles and etc to Ukraine? Is this a support or there is a financial idea behind it? They got them from suppliers, and now give for free? I dont think they will ask payment for it, but they will ask for special conditions in future deals one day.

I know that in my country volunteers collect medicine and food, and transfer it in cargo trucks to boarder, where it is collected by other country volunteers and being transferred to Ukraine. That is what I know from news and social media. These volunteers spend their own money on fuel for example. Weapon suppliers probably dont get payment for weapons right now, as I think they distribute everything from reserve.

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Quote from: mich on March 02, 2022, 04:45:59 AM

Many benefit financially from war. Banks have consistently made money in times of conflict.
Also, many companies make money on everything from the weapons themselves to the logistics and reconstruction.
These last few decades private security firms have profited handsomely from war.

The ones who will benefit the most from this war are of course weapons suppliers,
apart from all that to be honest I don't really care because I sympathize more with those who are victims of this war namely civilians,
they were homeless and there were some of them who died too,
so I really hope this can end soon and peace returns

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Many benefit financially from war. Banks have consistently made money in times of conflict.
Also, many companies make money on everything from the weapons themselves to the logistics and reconstruction.
These last few decades private security firms have profited handsomely from war.

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In general, war will be detrimental and can even have a global impact, an economic recession can occur if the war does not end, even though there are several countries that benefit, for example countries that supply weapons, supply energy, food ingredients and so on, of course the countries that can supply are countries which is still close because if the supply is from a ship or airplane, it is certainly difficult because it will be shot by the opponent.

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Nobody gain from war to be honest, a war never beings any positive outcome rather it will dip a whole in the political, social and economic state of the countries involved, even those selling weapons may gain monetary value but the impact will be felt by every country, look at what is already happening in the stock and crypto market as a result of this war.
Going to war do more harm than good, and it sounds terrible when some people will be looking out to profit from other people's misery.

That really is not true. What do you think the boomer generation could buy houses with a job at a fast food restaurant? Because the USA did not suffer damages in their homeland and could give out very profitable loans to Europe to build back their infrastructure. For the Americans, war has very often been profitable. Whether that profit came as direct financial profit or political profit by installing governments that do whatever they want.

War is never right. But it is very profitable.

As sad as this sound this is the truth, this is similar to the stock markets, people believe that when the market is going down everyone is losing, but that is not accurate, the majority is losing a lot of money but there is a small minority which is making a lot of money during the crash, and the same is true for war, while a great deal of people lose everything, including their lives, there are a few powerful people that gain from the war, which is why despite the incredible high costs that a war has there is always a war somewhere around the world.

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The media that will benefit the most from this war.

Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on March 01, 2022, 08:23:55 AM

War will cause many problems from both sides, especially if the war occurs for a long time, not only poverty but the destruction of the country.
I think that in the current situation, humanity is the most important thing
I hope that in the future there will be good news and conditions can return to conducive

At the first meeting of Ukraine and Russia, no common ground was found. I hope that at the second meeting later, a common ground will be found, so that this can all end.

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Quote from: awik p on March 01, 2022, 03:18:06 AM

Quote from: Sir Legend on February 28, 2022, 10:54:23 PM

Many experts predict that in 2022 there will be many wars and this is proven because at this time there was an invasion of russia into ukraine, war is a serious problem and countries that are lucky from war are those who sell weapons, russia certainly does not need to buy weapons because military strength and weapons are very strong. Besides that, countries that have food ingredients will be very lucky because during war almost all agricultural activities will stop and there will be no harvest so that strong agricultural countries will have gain.

I agree that when food wars become gold in that country, but I don't think it means that staple-producing countries will benefit, because during wars of course poverty can be threatened, and prices will spike, on the other hand distribution may also be very difficult, where there is still hunger . and maybe it's true that only journalists can make money with their news, because all that can be sold is news

War will cause many problems from both sides, especially if the war occurs for a long time, not only poverty but the destruction of the country.
I think that in the current situation, humanity is the most important thing
I hope that in the future there will be good news and conditions can return to conducive

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Quote from: Sir Legend on February 28, 2022, 10:54:23 PM

Many experts predict that in 2022 there will be many wars and this is proven because at this time there was an invasion of russia into ukraine, war is a serious problem and countries that are lucky from war are those who sell weapons, russia certainly does not need to buy weapons because military strength and weapons are very strong. Besides that, countries that have food ingredients will be very lucky because during war almost all agricultural activities will stop and there will be no harvest so that strong agricultural countries will have gain.

I agree that when food wars become gold in that country, but I don't think it means that staple-producing countries will benefit, because during wars of course poverty can be threatened, and prices will spike, on the other hand distribution may also be very difficult, where there is still hunger . and maybe it's true that only journalists can make money with their news, because all that can be sold is news

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Many experts predict that in 2022 there will be many wars and this is proven because at this time there was an invasion of russia into ukraine, war is a serious problem and countries that are lucky from war are those who sell weapons, russia certainly does not need to buy weapons because military strength and weapons are very strong. Besides that, countries that have food ingredients will be very lucky because during war almost all agricultural activities will stop and there will be no harvest so that strong agricultural countries will have gain.

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When a war occurs there are only losses on both sides, there are those who gain's, namely allies, but it takes a process. AFAIK let's say one country has many allies namely other countries and they help the war, whether it's supply of military weapons, maintenance, medic etc. When the country wins there is a long contract depending on the previous agreement, but war can have a devastating effect on us going back to history, many are harmed.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 27, 2022, 09:10:42 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 27, 2022, 04:51:22 PM

It's sad that the majority are the losers, lost their lives, homes, relatives, and almost everything. While those companies that have been selling weapons for wars are in gain without any loss to them.

Only few benefited from war (leaders who gained reputation, weapon suppliers, journalist and etc). They are taking advantage the situation to make money and established themselves.

But the losers who suffer the most are the civilians. These innocent people are losing their lives and fighting to survive. They are the ones who needs help.

As they say that War is money or simply profitable for those who are sitting on the top or simply money maker on which this isnt been seen by most people.
No one really wins on this one and also i do cost lots of lives of people which i dont see for it to be worth nor deserve for them to end up on that way.
Even though we dont like for these wars to happen but it seems its an inevitable thing when someone do start the act.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

In war there is always gain and in this situation, Russia seems to be gaining as the price of crude oil have risen to its all time high within the last couple of weeks, this is a big income to the Russian Treasury as they have a large storage of crude as reserved, but with the various sanctions from various financial collaboration and unions I wonder how Russian will be able to supply crude to other nations. But am certain global peace will be restored with the ongoing negotiations because the gain of war can not be compared to the growth of peace war leads to killings of humans and that is the destruction of future prosperity. Countries may think in a time of war business blossom such as selling of weapons and stealing of resources which is all illegal dealings so in totality there is no gain in war both sides faces various losses.

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Ever read the stories of world war 1 and 2 ?
Well no one gains anything from the war and this was concluded from the WW2 when they dropped the nuclear bomb on heroshima and nakasaki. Well when they saw the chaos that human is capable of they started to see their hands shaking and stopped the whole dam thing.

Well, winners just win the land but at the cost of lives of people, animals and real estates. It’s so terrifying to imagine all this. One life is costlier than thousand wars.

No one gets nothing.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 AM

I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

It's true. Other industries and countries that are specialized in a certain field such as types of armed vehicles, machinery, and weapons benefit a lot whenever there's a war happening. These countries supply the countries who are in conflict with one another which obviously is a great opportunity for them to make money out of a chaotic situation. Those people or corporations that sell goods and other materials needed in times of calamities such as food, water, clothing, and the likes humans needed in order to survive are gaining by supplying the military with all things they need. The countries that also offer loans with amounting interest for the rehabilitation because of the aftermath of war are gaining a lot of money. Mainly because of course, a damaged country will have no choice but to rely on credit and loans to make their country better again, despite it having a huge interest rate over time.

It's saddening that the struggle and pain of others are a blessing to some. However, that's the reality. There are always two sides to every coin.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 27, 2022, 09:10:42 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 27, 2022, 04:51:22 PM

It's sad that the majority are the losers, lost their lives, homes, relatives, and almost everything. While those companies that have been selling weapons for wars are in gain without any loss to them.

Only few benefited from war (leaders who gained reputation, weapon suppliers, journalist and etc). They are taking advantage the situation to make money and established themselves.

But the losers who suffer the most are the civilians. These innocent people are losing their lives and fighting to survive. They are the ones who needs help.

It is true that in the midst of the current war, civilians should be the main responsibility for the government to save them.
conditions like this of course make civilians do not know what to do,
Moreover, those who are trapped in the battlefield zone are certainly very sad to imagine,
I hope this all ends soon and we just follow the progress

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