Pages:
Author

Topic: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? (Read 143064 times)

?
Activity: -
Merit: -
November 25, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
Revised, best and final:

1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW
1 DUD, SF
1 Dude, San Francisco  

1LzBzVqEeuQyjD2mRWHes3dgWrT9titxvq
jD2m (in middle)
JD 2 Mint Plaza (Jack Dorsey's apartment address)

13HtsYzne8xVPdGDnmJX8gHgBZerAfJGEf
3H
3rd House (3rd house in)

1ByLSV2gLRcuqUmfdYcpPQH8Npm8cccsFg
By LSV
By Latte Express, Sandwiches, and Vietnamese

Jack Dorsey is Satoshi Nakamoto
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
November 25, 2024, 01:04:15 AM
Satoshi gave the key to Hal Finney to Decrypt the code.

"I just thought of something. Eventually there'll be some interest in brute force scanning bitcoin addresses to find one with the first few characters customized to your name, kind of like getting a phone number that spells out something. Just by chance I have my initials."

1. Satoshi sends from 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S
which says HomeFTP (San Francisco from Cryptonomicon)

And then he sends 4 more transactions to the following addresses:

1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW
1 DUD, SF
1 Dude, San Francisco

1LzBzVqEeuQyjD2mRWHes3dgWrT9titxvq
jD

13HtsYzne8xVPdGDnmJX8gHgBZerAfJGEf
Hts
The Heights

1ByLSV2gLRcuqUmfdYcpPQH8Npm8cccsFg
By LS
By Lake Street
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
November 25, 2024, 09:22:42 PM
Jack Dorsey is Satoshi Nakamoto

LOL no chance.

He has zero experience as a cryptographic coder, which reduces the likelihood of him being Satoshi to zero.

The acronyms & abbreviations you "found" in the addresses are 100% the product of your own mind. As tangible as any conspiracy theory with an equal amount of corresponding evidence (zero).
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
November 24, 2024, 11:23:08 PM
A Secret Message in Bitcoin's first ever Transaction
Satoshi is in San Francisco


The first ever bitcoin transaction sent from Satoshi to Hal Finney on January 11, 2009 has a secret code embedded in Satoshi's address. Specifically, Satoshi tells Hal hours after he sends the coins that one can brute force addresses to get vanity messages. He uses an example address that includes his initials "NS" in the address. While most people interpret that to mean Nakamoto Satoshi or as a hint that it was really Nick Szabo, I've previously said it was further tribute to Neal Stephenson (since the White Paper came out on Stephenson's birthday) and it's not the message itself that was even supposed to be relevant, it's supposed to be the key to Hal (and the world) to look for the message in the first transaction itself! Hint hint.

Specifically Satoshi sends 10 btc from
12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S in block 170

Which indeed has a vanity message. It says HomeFTP.

Which could mean anything or be a coincidental alignment of characters which would be even more coincidental since Satoshi literally just told Hal about vanity addresses. Except it's not coincidence because like so many other Bitcoin references I say came from Stephenson's Cryptonomicon novel, HomeFTP comes from Cryptonomicon.

"Another thing he did this morning was to download the current version of the Cryptonomicon from the ftp server where it lives in San Francisco," is a quote and information presented in the novel itself that the Home FTP Server of Cryptonomicon is in San Francisco.

Satoshi lived in San Francisco.

- Sean Murray
deBanked
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
November 19, 2024, 12:04:05 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto is Jack Dorsey

The Bitcoin Whitepaper came out on Neal Stephenson's Birthday (10/31)

Bitcoin's launch was set to the plot of William Gibson's Neuromancer. Jack Dorsey embedded himself in the story. See the attached graphic explaining:
https://imgur.com/YVaqN5G

Satoshi's registration date here is Jack Dorsey's birthday.

The initial block award of 50 bitcoins also comes from Neuromancer since he always has a new bill (in a new currency) in the denomination of 50. The protagonist in Neuromancer is also told he must wait 8 days before starting his mission and just assume that the tech is going to work. (8 day gap between the genesis block and the first transaction with Hal Finney.)

Bitcoin's origin story was supposed to be a tribute to cyberpunk but nobody noticed. Instead we get more than a decade of wild conspiracy theories. Jack Dorsey has been on a tour all year literally wearing a Satoshi shirt and filing docs with the SEC saying that his $45 billion bank is following the guidance of Satoshi Nakamoto (obviously a pseudonym for himself given the context) but nobody noticed or paid attention to that either.

Happy Bitcoining. Mark this thread as closed and the question answered.
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
November 24, 2024, 11:34:33 PM
The amount of puzzles Satoshi put into his activities is incredible. Everything has a hidden message or background story.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
October 18, 2024, 08:58:13 PM
He also writes in the same way as Satoshi.

No, he does not. Their writing styles are quite different. They've been compared and analyzed six ways from Sunday.



List of other reasons why Back is not likely to be Satoshi:

https://x.com/cswfactcheck/status/1843820248643801343

Not to mention Back has shared correspondence with Satoshi. Sure, it could be part of a larger conspiracy theory, but so could everything.
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 18, 2024, 08:32:07 PM
Probably Adam Back for several reasons. He invented Hashcash which is used in the bitcoin mining process.

Back was the second person Satoshi reached out to with the earliest draft of the Bitcoin whitepaper, still he acted
like a noob on the forums to throw people of.

Adam Back was a pioneer in the field of cryptography, and his contributions to the Cypherpunk movement were very
important. He was an active participant in the group's debates, and his Hashcash function inspired the development
of other algorithms and programmes by his fellow Cypherpunks, such as Hal Finney's RPoW and Bitcoin.

Not only does Back have a Ph.D. in computer science and a history of studying cryptography in academia, but he has
also built his whole career on ideas that are central to Bitcoin.  He is the CEO of Blockstream, which he co-founded
in 2014 and I feel it´s his way to get back into control of bitcoin.

He also writes in the same way as Satoshi.

I haven’t found any evidence to definitively say it’s not Adam Back. But he would have had to go to great lengths with emailing himself back and forth and posting replies to himself on the old cypherpunk mailing list and forums

All possible but would be bizarre haha.

This for example:
https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154629912&w=2

And these: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 18, 2024, 06:19:09 PM
Probably Adam Back for several reasons. He invented Hashcash which is used in the bitcoin mining process.

Back was the second person Satoshi reached out to with the earliest draft of the Bitcoin whitepaper, still he acted
like a noob on the forums to throw people of.

Adam Back was a pioneer in the field of cryptography, and his contributions to the Cypherpunk movement were very
important. He was an active participant in the group's debates, and his Hashcash function inspired the development
of other algorithms and programmes by his fellow Cypherpunks, such as Hal Finney's RPoW and Bitcoin.

Not only does Back have a Ph.D. in computer science and a history of studying cryptography in academia, but he has
also built his whole career on ideas that are central to Bitcoin.  He is the CEO of Blockstream, which he co-founded
in 2014 and I feel it´s his way to get back into control of bitcoin.

He also writes in the same way as Satoshi.
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 17, 2024, 09:20:10 PM
Found some interesting posts in the old cypherpunk archives. The anonymous messages in Sep 1999.

It’s very similar to Satoshi.

https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=96968734909750&w=2

There are multiple posts and references to the Crypto 99 conference in Santa Barbara, CA.

I think these posts are from Satoshi.

One message is signed “ECashRumorMonger” lol

Ok… I think Satoshi is Adam Laurie…seriously or Ben Laurie or both

https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=100657316822429&w=2
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 17, 2024, 07:44:24 AM
Len checks the most boxes for sure.

But the part that seems strange to me is that cypherpunks and usual Satoshi candidates are experts in cryptography.

From everything I've read from other cryptography experts is that Satoshi didn't have a deep understanding of cryptography. Sure they had enough knowledge to develop Bitcoin, and that is impressive in its own right, but nothing points to Satoshi as having more than just a basic understanding of cryptography.

Also some design choices around privacy and security don't match with the cypherpunk ethos imo. 
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
October 17, 2024, 04:38:48 AM
Quote
Blackberry?? Satoshi being a Canadian cybersecurity expert working for RIM would make a lot of sense imo.
1. Those are just some ads, added by SourceForge. Nothing special. Free e-mail boxes just contained ads in the past, and it is normal. To remove them, you need to use some paid version.
2. Satoshi used Japanese version of Windows XP, it is very unlikely, that he was "a Canadian cybersecurity expert".

Ah, oh well. Reading through all of Satoshi’s messages makes me think they were Canadian or from the US and studied abroad for awhile.

Part of me thinks the English spelling was intentional misdirection. Satoshi sounds a lol like a Calofornian or west coast USA to me.

More evidence that Satoshi was a front for a person or a team that knew their tradecraft, i.e. CIA/NSA.



The team idea is definitely possible imo. I had a buddy from the Bay Area that went to college in Scotland and then moved to London. He's lived there ever since.

He talks a lot like how Satoshi writes. Sounds American but uses random English words like rubbish. Also inconsistently uses "s" or "z" like Satoshi too.

Whether CIA/NSA/team whatever, I think Satoshi was from the US and just lived overseas for a significant period of time.


Len Sassaman was an American who lived in Belgium for years up until his death.

His academic advisors were David Chaum and Bart Preneel. Preneel wrote papers with 9 of the people in attendance for the [2] reference in the Bitcoin whitepaper.

Preneels advisor, Joos Vandewalle was one of the 47 people in attendance for the [2] reference in the Bitcoin referenced above.

If you click the photos I included in my message above, there’s also proof of double spacing and on his twitter, instances of him using the same British spellings of words Satoshi used.

Not to mention Hal Finney and Len Sassaman had a close relationship. Len being friends and advised by HalvFinney and David Chaum, living in Belgium as an American for a long period of time..idk, there’s more to put together with him than anyone else imo.

newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
October 17, 2024, 04:21:17 AM
Quote
Blackberry?? Satoshi being a Canadian cybersecurity expert working for RIM would make a lot of sense imo.
1. Those are just some ads, added by SourceForge. Nothing special. Free e-mail boxes just contained ads in the past, and it is normal. To remove them, you need to use some paid version.
2. Satoshi used Japanese version of Windows XP, it is very unlikely, that he was "a Canadian cybersecurity expert".

Ah, oh well. Reading through all of Satoshi’s messages makes me think they were Canadian or from the US and studied abroad for awhile.

Part of me thinks the English spelling was intentional misdirection. Satoshi sounds a lol like a Calofornian or west coast USA to me.

More evidence that Satoshi was a front for a person or a team that knew their tradecraft, i.e. CIA/NSA.



The team idea is definitely possible imo. I had a buddy from the Bay Area that went to college in Scotland and then moved to London. He's lived there ever since.

He talks a lot like how Satoshi writes. Sounds American but uses random English words like rubbish. Also inconsistently uses "s" or "z" like Satoshi too.

Whether CIA/NSA/team whatever, I think Satoshi was from the US and just lived overseas for a significant period of time.


Len Sassaman was an American who lived in Belgium for years up until his death.

His academic advisors were David Chaum and Bart Preneel. Preneel wrote papers with 9 of the people in attendance for the [2] reference in the Bitcoin whitepaper.

Preneels advisor, Joose Vandewalle was one of the 47 people in attendance for the [2] reference in the Bitcoin referenced above.

If you click the photos I included in my message above, there’s also proof of double spacing and on his twitter, instances of him using the same British spellings of words Satoshi used.

Not to mention Hal Finney and Len Sassaman had a close relationship. Len being friends and advised by HalvFinney and David Chaum, living in Belgium as an American for a long period of time..idk, there’s more to put together with him than anyone else imo.
?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 16, 2024, 08:37:16 PM
Quote
Blackberry?? Satoshi being a Canadian cybersecurity expert working for RIM would make a lot of sense imo.
1. Those are just some ads, added by SourceForge. Nothing special. Free e-mail boxes just contained ads in the past, and it is normal. To remove them, you need to use some paid version.
2. Satoshi used Japanese version of Windows XP, it is very unlikely, that he was "a Canadian cybersecurity expert".

Ah, oh well. Reading through all of Satoshi’s messages makes me think they were Canadian or from the US and studied abroad for awhile.

Part of me thinks the English spelling was intentional misdirection. Satoshi sounds a lol like a Calofornian or west coast USA to me.

More evidence that Satoshi was a front for a person or a team that knew their tradecraft, i.e. CIA/NSA.



The team idea is definitely possible imo. I had a buddy from the Bay Area that went to college in Scotland and then moved to London. He's lived there ever since.

He talks a lot like how Satoshi writes. Sounds American but uses random English words like rubbish. Also inconsistently uses "s" or "z" like Satoshi too.

Whether CIA/NSA/team whatever, I think Satoshi was from the US and just lived overseas for a significant period of time.
member
Activity: 182
Merit: 47
October 16, 2024, 08:00:15 PM
Quote
Blackberry?? Satoshi being a Canadian cybersecurity expert working for RIM would make a lot of sense imo.
1. Those are just some ads, added by SourceForge. Nothing special. Free e-mail boxes just contained ads in the past, and it is normal. To remove them, you need to use some paid version.
2. Satoshi used Japanese version of Windows XP, it is very unlikely, that he was "a Canadian cybersecurity expert".

Ah, oh well. Reading through all of Satoshi’s messages makes me think they were Canadian or from the US and studied abroad for awhile.

Part of me thinks the English spelling was intentional misdirection. Satoshi sounds a lol like a Calofornian or west coast USA to me.

More evidence that Satoshi was a front for a person or a team that knew their tradecraft, i.e. CIA/NSA.

?
Activity: -
Merit: -
October 16, 2024, 06:42:34 PM
Quote
Blackberry?? Satoshi being a Canadian cybersecurity expert working for RIM would make a lot of sense imo.
1. Those are just some ads, added by SourceForge. Nothing special. Free e-mail boxes just contained ads in the past, and it is normal. To remove them, you need to use some paid version.
2. Satoshi used Japanese version of Windows XP, it is very unlikely, that he was "a Canadian cybersecurity expert".

Ah, oh well. Reading through all of Satoshi’s messages makes me think they were Canadian or from the US and studied abroad for awhile.

Part of me thinks the English spelling was intentional misdirection. Satoshi sounds a lol like a Calofornian or west coast USA to me.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
October 16, 2024, 05:09:20 PM
block 78, Hal Finney.
He has a list of things he did for Bitcoin and was the second miner on the network.

The problem with it being Hal Finney or any of the other known characters is that it doesn't add up: why would anybody want to keep it a secret? And why wouldn't they cash in their $60 billion? (Or, if they lost their keys to the 1M Bitcoin, why wouldn't they just say that and help the price of Bitcoin?).

And remember that this wasn't always $60 billion. Even when Bitcoin was at $1000, somebody would have to turn their nose up at $1 billion--or even less. Had the holder of the 1M Bitcoin been alive and owned it personally, they would have started selling when Bitcoin was $100 or less most likely.

For me, the only possibilities that are plausible is that either Satoshi is dead or he is CIA/NSA. Only a government (and frankly, only the US government) could let $60 billion just sit there.



Who’s to say that Satoshi is still alive?
member
Activity: 182
Merit: 47
October 16, 2024, 05:00:09 PM
block 78, Hal Finney.
He has a list of things he did for Bitcoin and was the second miner on the network.

The problem with it being Hal Finney or any of the other known characters is that it doesn't add up: why would anybody want to keep it a secret? And why wouldn't they cash in their $60 billion? (Or, if they lost their keys to the 1M Bitcoin, why wouldn't they just say that and help the price of Bitcoin?).

And remember that this wasn't always $60 billion. Even when Bitcoin was at $1000, somebody would have to turn their nose up at $1 billion--or even less. Had the holder of the 1M Bitcoin been alive and owned it personally, they would have started selling when Bitcoin was $100 or less most likely.

For me, the only possibilities that are plausible is that either Satoshi is dead or he is CIA/NSA. Only a government (and frankly, only the US government) could let $60 billion just sit there.

jr. member
Activity: 33
Merit: 1
October 16, 2024, 04:42:45 PM
block 78, Hal Finney.
He has a list of things he did for Bitcoin and was the second miner on the network.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
October 16, 2024, 03:06:40 PM
Bart Prenee (and David Chaum) both Len Sassamans doctoral advisors but well focus on Bart, co-authored papers with 9 of the 47 people in attendance at the #2 Reference in the Bitcoin whitepaper:

 “[2] H. Massias, X.S. Avila, and J.-J. Quisquater, “Design of a secure timestamping service with minimal trust requirements,” In 20th Symposium on Information Theory in the Benelux, May 1999.”

One of the 47 in attendance was Bart Preneels academic advisor, Joos Vandewalle who was one of the 47 attendees of the whitepaper's [2] reference.

Add in the double spacing used in Lens writings, as well as Lens close relationship with Hal Finney, there’s so many things that line up that in my opinion that keeps Len in the spotlight as a potential Satoshi Nakamoto candidate.

Len also owned a physical copy and was in attendance for the “In 23rd Symposium on Information Theory in the Benelux” which I’m guessing was a couple years later.

He’s got a history of using British spellings on his twitter. The same words Satoshi used when communicating: flat, grey, bloody. There’s photographic proof but I can’t add a screenshot for some reason.

Anyways, just more very interesting reading and a rabbit hole to go down. I’ve got screenshots that show examples but not sure how to post them here.

Images:
https://ibb.co/VSR6xZB
https://ibb.co/C9scvsg
Pages:
Jump to: