Topic: Who is the cheater? - page 2. (Read 1207 times)
True, true. Bounty hunters are not the only one who is dumping the token. The team is dumping their own token, not only by selling them but also by not doing anything what can be called as a progress.
Both of them are cheating but bounty hunters bring results to the project by promoting them, it is shortchanging them if they do not give the rewards in due time, in the end bounty hunters get the worst of the bargain, Dev get their funding bounty hunters gets nothing.
I think there are a very few cheaters in bounty hunters at this moment. For the longtime bear market, bitcointalk auto ban system, Merit system decreased the bounty cheater! But day by day project dev and team cheaters are increasing. Envion, Elysian and tokenpay devs are totally lier and cheater, they cheat bounty hunters! And your thread is very real nowadays and this thread is showing everyone who is the real cheater!
This also shows that a project can be seen from a single aspect. Whether the bounty is distributed on time or not, can also indicate whether the project team is honest or not, and whether the project is worthy of our follow-up.
You're right. But unfortunately, not all projects can pass this "test". The terms of the bounty often change. Pay rewards with big delays or reduce the pool of payments. or do not pay the promised rewards at all. developer can be cheater if they have promise to bounty hunter but they not keep promise, under condition when their ico success and already listed but reward still postponed. and many reason why developer can be cheater.
bounty hunter is cheater if they have many account in the same place, ico i mean. the rule is clear, so just obey the rules.
something happens and because of a lot of fraud, anyone can cheat so we have to be more careful.bounty hunter is cheater if they have many account in the same place, ico i mean. the rule is clear, so just obey the rules.
ICO still hasn't improved and it's still very worrying to invest in it so for that we have to research more so that we move away from things that can cause losses.
This also shows that a project can be seen from a single aspect. Whether the bounty is distributed on time or not, can also indicate whether the project team is honest or not, and whether the project is worthy of our follow-up.
I feel the main cheaters in most cases are bounty hunter, from the developer/ bounty manager they always state that the rules stated at the beginning of the campaign can be change or review
I think you may change your first line. Because you talked about favoring bounty hunters but at the first line you said you feel the main cheater are the bounty hunter. Personally, I think cheaters are available everywhere. But the project dev/team likes to play with the hunter. Some hunter uses multiple accounts, that is cheating. But at this moment, most of the project team is playing with every bounty hunter. The thread is the right example of what is going now! The ICO team, investors everyone blame bounty hunters if the token gets the dump, but bounty token yet to distribute! So, what is your call here? I think the main cheater at this moment are the project team, dev, and CEO!
It doesn't who is the cheater in the situation like this. It is not okay for us bounty hunters to blame the ICO development team if they delayed our bounty payments or promised us the immediate listing on exchanges and it is not also okay if the development team will blame us if the price of their token/coin is suddenly dumped, for the reason that not all the time, bounty hunters are the ones who dumped it. Know first the reason before judging.
developer can be cheater if they have promise to bounty hunter but they not keep promise, under condition when their ico success and already listed but reward still postponed. and many reason why developer can be cheater.
bounty hunter is cheater if they have many account in the same place, ico i mean. the rule is clear, so just obey the rules.
bounty hunter is cheater if they have many account in the same place, ico i mean. the rule is clear, so just obey the rules.
Both are cheaters but I we personally blame developers or bounty managers delaying rewards or finding cunning ways of running away with hunters reward, if Bm stop distributing shit rewards for bounty hunters, i guess the issue of doing multiple accounts will definitely stopped.
there are many bounty hunters who use many accounts to get more profits from their bounty results, and therefore developers outsmart it by delaying gifts for bounty hunters, until at the time that has been determined by the developer, I think there is no sense of trust between bounty hunter and developer team, so there is always suspicion among them.
Both of them are cheaters and unfortunately this is the main problem of this market, nobody is doing things honest. Hunters are trying to get more tokens than required and team members are waiting till the price dump to distribute the rewards. It is really unfair.
Both they are cheater the bounty hunters and the team because i see a lot of bounty hunters are using multiple accounts or making duplicate other accounts from the bounty hunters and sometimes the team they did not pay the reward mostly on bounty hunters.
Typical situation. I see such situations everywhere at the end of ICO. And this is the fault of the project team. If they conducted the program well, there would be no such thing in the end.
Today it is very difficult to trust any ico company. If you start to study the available information, then everyone looks promising enough, but after the completion of the company's ico, you begin to understand that you should not expect results. TO
Typical situation. I see such situations everywhere at the end of ICO. And this is the fault of the project team. If they conducted the program well, there would be no such thing in the end.
TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
There is 3 cheater as i can understand.
1) Bounty manager doing sloppy job and not removing or figuring out bounty abusers.
2) Bounty abusers.
3) Team.
First one are the scammers and second are greedy bounty Hunters. Just for money , they make a trap which effect other bounty Hunter who are doing well. These cheaters should be stopped as soon as possible.
Here, the cheaters are definitely ico owners. I saw it many times and it happened to me. They know that the price will drop when the prize is distributed. I find this right because the price is determined by bounty owners in the first place, and they cause price to fall.
There is no way that they are fully sure if price will drop or not, it depends on the community that invested, if they will dump the coin after exchange or not and these is very rampant with investors, they are the ones dumping these coins immediately it enters exchange and crashing the prices further more after selling off, this is the reason why we have seen so many ICOs we have already participated in and have refused to enter exchange.I once participated in a project that has a very good product, it was doing greatly when it entered exchange, the product it has made the price to start shooting high until investors dumped it by almost selling off all their investment. So, the fault is from developers and not developers.
ICO extension is a common thing. Almost every project prolongs the ICO and not all of them turn out to be scammers. Just now is the bad time and raise funds for the project is not so easy.
For new projects today it is very difficult to collect funds. To a greater extent, investors today prefer to buy coins on the stock exchange several times cheaper than at the price of ico company. Perhaps because of this, many promising projects have no real opportunities for development.
This is the reality of most bounty campaigns. Though some bounty hunters are cheater same also to developers that will be devising many cunning tactics just to deny and frustrate hunters before paying them for the tasks they did in promoting the project
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