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hero member
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February 10, 2019, 10:40:45 PM
#64
Yes, both of them can be called cheaters.

Bounty hunters - enrolling multiple alts in a campaign so that they can claim more rewards.
ICO's - most of them are scammers and just putting up projects to be used as a pump-and-dump scheme.

So I guess no one is to blame here, sad but true.
member
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February 10, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
#63
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My answer - both!  Roll Eyes
this is unfortunately true. there are many scam bountys, but also many bounty participants trying to cheat. on both sides there are cheaters, big and small and all just want to make money.
member
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February 10, 2019, 07:51:35 PM
#62
There was a particular project, where the team had handed over all the tokens for bounty hunters to the manager.
We later got to know that he earmarked mist of the tokens for himself and paid the hunters below what they qualified for.
This can also happen through the team and in different areas.
full member
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February 10, 2019, 04:31:30 PM
#61
Unfortunately it is common practice..
Almost every campaign delay token distribution for bounty hunters and got a lot of things to say about that.
But, you must admit - there are huge numbers of cheaters and scammers within bounty hunters.
My answer - both!  Roll Eyes
hero member
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February 10, 2019, 04:00:45 PM
#60
All such people are critical, and the team of projects also does a number of other things to reduce the distribution of bonuses to bounty hunter. That is to change the way of receiving bonuses compared to the original is through ETH wallet
member
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February 10, 2019, 03:38:46 PM
#59
TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
 5 telegram account per person
 3 bitcointalk account per person
 5 facebook account per person
 4 twitter account per person
 2 Reddit account per person
 2 LinkedIn account per person

Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.

After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune

After listing...

BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.

After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.


      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?






I think it is impractical to delay and use some methods in order that the bounty participants will keep working without being compensated, that is why kyc is implemented in order to filter out spam accounts and filter real participants, on the part of the team and the developer itself they should be educated enough to pay the participants at the agreed time and date, extending the campaign is good long as the compensation would also be adjusted as well. Both sides should be honest of course.
full member
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February 09, 2019, 10:23:34 PM
#58
TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
 5 telegram account per person
 3 bitcointalk account per person
 5 facebook account per person
 4 twitter account per person
 2 Reddit account per person
 2 LinkedIn account per person

Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.

After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune

After listing...

BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.

After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.


      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?


I think we dont need to judge who is the cheaters between team who make the project or the bounty hunters who advertise that project, maybe if we want the good community lets start it  in our own life.

We need to accept the reality that we are in the human world and all things here is not perfect. If we think the situation of team who they are not do what they are promise vs bounty hunters who breaks the rules there is no difference.
hero member
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February 09, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
#57
The bounty hunter first break the rules for using multiple accounts to take advantage the opportunity, in the end I think he deserves what happened because he cheated from the beginning.

However for participants who follow the rules its not fair for them to not get their reward as promise by the team since they work hard for it and now the price is already dump in exchanges. They cant sell it in low price and they have to wait again until the price recover.
full member
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February 09, 2019, 09:38:53 PM
#56
Really cheater is bounty campaign manager who given payment by ICO team but they always delay for distributing for bounty campaign participants, always trying give bad ideas and wait until price of ico have listed at market with lower price for distribution, I am still remember with project bounty campaign delay more than three moth and make price have dump and lower.
sr. member
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Merit: 259
February 09, 2019, 08:15:31 PM
#55
both have the same potential to cheat.
but we don't realize that many people will be harmed by the results of this deception.
in my opinion this will be reduced if we can be honest with ourselves.
sr. member
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Merit: 256
Just.bet - Decentralized On-chain Casino
February 09, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
#54
Both are greedy and ignore the rules.
but the delay problem is not the policy of the manager but the ICO developer policy.
The cheater is actually ourselves who are unable to analyze a good ICO and will succeed.
hero member
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Merit: 524
February 09, 2019, 07:47:41 PM
#53
In the OP description both are cheaters, bounty hunter using multiple accounts and ICO persons, bounty hunters using multiple account to gain more coins and get big profit but ICO developers are more smart and just delayed the bounty rewards late that until it get received by the bounty hunter it is worthless.

If the bounty hunter was genuine using single account then be can accuse the ICO developers for delaying the bounty rewards. This is the common issue of ICO for delaying bounty rewards as they think to avoid the coin dump they are doing this. But even then the price is dumped so then who is the reason for this dump. So it is clear that if the coin is worthless it will get dumped after it get listed.

I have joined Tokpie exchange which gives you 50% of your bounty reward for trading in ETH in their exchange which i think worthy as ICO cannot scam in this process and you dont have to wait for long to get reward.
member
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February 09, 2019, 07:42:53 PM
#52
They both cheat. Buh the hunters cheap frequently than the developers. Sometimes the tokens sent is lesser than the one displayed on the spreadsheet and that is when we can say they are cheating. Extending of bounty payment is not considered a cheat by me.
jr. member
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Merit: 1
February 09, 2019, 07:29:33 PM
#51
I think that should be what the OP has experienced in the course of doing some bounties.
Well, it is normal and I feel every bounty participant has seen that happen many times, most especially those that have been in the space for a while.
As regards cheating on the snide of bounty participants, such is inevitable, but can be curbed.
sr. member
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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game
February 09, 2019, 07:14:09 PM
#50
Well as a developer I will choose the best situation were in I can make the project still the top and also the price because many hunters are dumping the price and the investors are lossing their money on it wht the hunters are happy because they already profit even a little. The thing is hunter is the worst here.
I am a bounty hunter and I realize that making a little is not a big problem for me, as long as I get profit I am quite happy
but in this case you cannot fully blame the bounty hunter because the bounty hunter only receives about 1% of the total supply so it won't make a big impact on the price, it won't trigger a dump
member
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February 09, 2019, 06:57:10 PM
#49
I cannot say its a cheat part on bounty hunters. Although your example that bounty hunter has many accounts, it is still he's hardwork. Even if they have multiple accounts, they still manage to do the work. And by that i can't say it's a cheat on the part of bounty hunter.
member
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February 09, 2019, 06:47:40 PM
#48
Scams enough on both sides, but we must not forget about humanity. I believe that you need to make more reasonable rules, with the possibility of adjustment under any specific situation.
member
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February 09, 2019, 03:08:37 PM
#47
The truth is that most initial coin offering bounty managers are more interested in the growth of the project and the investors than bounty hunters they believe bounty hunters are just there for personal interest with out caring what ever development the Coin can achieve
I would say the true cheaters are both the selfish bounty hunters that abuse the project with multiple account and also the project organisers that don't stand by there words
hero member
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February 09, 2019, 02:56:19 PM
#46
I don't know why people fail to realize that the loyalty of the team is to their project and not to bounty hunters. You said it, if you have people cheating and farming accounts into project, the team can apply their discretion and delay the tokens distribution, as for tokens dumping when it gets to exchanges, investors too are suffering because it is not easy to see you investment drop form $1000 to $25 and it is  also a wrong assumption to think that bounty hunters do not invest in some of these ICO
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 02:49:37 PM
#45
Obviously the bounty hunters. They break the important rule of any bounty that is participating with multiple accounts. I don't care how scammy the ICO is if the participant isn't genuine in their approach.
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