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I want to say the team is not right position. Because why they support multiple account (fb,tw,linkdin etc)? If they support multiple account for per person then main cheater is the team. Secondly the bounty hunters who use multiple account fo advertising. Thanks
Both are cheaters. But I'm on the team side.
I'm sure the team knows that there are lots of cheaters and for sure they can't find it one by one because of the participant numbers.
Many bounty hunters cheated by using too many accounts which is seriously unfair for the legit participants. And the token team, despite knowing this, they can't do anything about it except for delaying the token distribution because they know if they distribute it too fast, the token will be dipping real hard and can harm the value.
I think it would be great if the token team implement the KYC system for distribution, although it won't help much, at least it'll make the dishonest participants tired.
I'm sure the team knows that there are lots of cheaters and for sure they can't find it one by one because of the participant numbers.
Many bounty hunters cheated by using too many accounts which is seriously unfair for the legit participants. And the token team, despite knowing this, they can't do anything about it except for delaying the token distribution because they know if they distribute it too fast, the token will be dipping real hard and can harm the value.
I think it would be great if the token team implement the KYC system for distribution, although it won't help much, at least it'll make the dishonest participants tired.
Fraud happens a lot and it can be done by anyone. So many Bounty projects now use KYC. And the purpose of KYC is to prevent fraud, but the use of KYC is also risky. Many Bounty participants can pass KYC, but still, don't get tokens.
so we have to be careful and don't be careless sometimes we are rash so fraudsters are very easy to do various ways to get it.at least by using KYC it can be safer even if things that are not good can happen but can reduce the bad things that happen.
It goes both the ways. There are many bounty hunters holding multiple accounts and in case of project owners, they are under various circumstances telling a lie in terms of exchange listing, bounty distribution and many more others. Project owners may be doing so just due to various reasons. So we can tell that if bounty holders are having multiple accounts, they are cheater and if fake projects are cheating investors and bounty hunters, they are put in the same category.
Fraud happens a lot and it can be done by anyone. So many Bounty projects now use KYC. And the purpose of KYC is to prevent fraud, but the use of KYC is also risky. Many Bounty participants can pass KYC, but still, don't get tokens.
It seems to me not a significant question of having several accounts by bounty hunters. If these accounts are not fake, they have real subscribers who actively manifest themselves during the bounty campaign, then such accounts bring more benefit to the project than single accounts that are not related to the crypto theme. In essence, the main goal of the project team is to achieve a hardcap, and if it is achieved, then multiple accounts will not be a problem. Therefore, I believe that it is necessary to punish not for owning several accounts, but on the basis of the benefits for the tokensale that these accounts bring.
I think both have their fault and some in bounty hunter are so clean that they don't have more than 1account and those using multiple account will makes them suffer too and why some makes up their mind to cheat and on the part of the team , I think they also have some challenges back office which can't be given to public so as not to cause chao in the project but some team are just a cheater too and nothing willing to give reward to the hunter until the price dump with excuse of hunter be the reason for drop in price but I have also see many case where only investors are the one trading the token but the price still dump to 90-95% from ICO price before hunter could even receive their reward , so I see both as cheater while in both we still have some that are clean and don't even have the mind to cheat .
And again its a role of bounty manager to eliminate those hunters with multiple account by putting a measure in place and if they can't as their role then we shouldn't blame the cheater in bounty as the manager should be cos he is not competent enough to handle such.
And again its a role of bounty manager to eliminate those hunters with multiple account by putting a measure in place and if they can't as their role then we shouldn't blame the cheater in bounty as the manager should be cos he is not competent enough to handle such.
This people made bounty hunters look bad and bounty hunters has no other means than to become hard on them. They are just being wicked on hunters because they know we had no choice and a means to fight back
The person who does quality work from several accounts is not a scam. A fraudster is one who steals the work of hunters, and publishes them in bounty. Thereby stealing rewards workaholic.
TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
In my opinion would be the bounty hunter, since it already been mentioned that the participant will only allowed to join using a single account per person.GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
But instead they join the campaign using multiple account.
Well, it can be both. The developer and bounty hunter. One thing to keep in mind, not all bounty hunters cheat by using multiple accounts, and not all developer teams give false promises. So, we should wisely react to it. As a bounty hunter, we must be wise and careful in analyzing the projects that will follow, including analyzing the Bounty manager who handles the bounty project, so that we can expect as needed. We also have to understand the risks, the development of the project is not always in accordance with the roadmap, so the developer team will definitely do the best for the development of the project.
The key is on your own, you must be able to choose the right project, be patient, and understand the risks.
The key is on your own, you must be able to choose the right project, be patient, and understand the risks.
Both doing cheating and this is the time the ico affected not to be successful. Cheaters affect so much in the projwct as they dont work properly and just want to cheat others same as the owner of the project that continue to delay the distribution until it goes into scammed.
This is happening in most ICOS right now when a project had successfully concluded the ICO bounty hunters are forgotten, delay of payment is unacceptable and worst the token you will get is very minimal because of the cheater's in the bounty campaign.
You cannot actually call the team and developers the cheaters immediately because they are dependent on sales during their ICO period and they have so many considerations to make. There's no point in continuing the project if you can never get to establish it to register into an exchange which do cost a lot. They could not pay bounty hunters as well because they have no funds to do so. If they do a lot of promises without admitting the current status of the project and without transparency then it is may be the time that we can call them cheaters if they would run away without giving the bounty.
There must be something or some rules to be applied to bounty hunting and both sides should agree on it. Like when an ICO should be made it should have a starting capital to pay bounty hunters even how small and an option, sort of a bonus, will be added later for after they will be successful. The bounter hunters deserved this because they exerted a lot of time and effort as well. Bounty hunters who do have more accounts in a campaign can be considered cheating but I prefer to call them GREEDY!..
There must be something or some rules to be applied to bounty hunting and both sides should agree on it. Like when an ICO should be made it should have a starting capital to pay bounty hunters even how small and an option, sort of a bonus, will be added later for after they will be successful. The bounter hunters deserved this because they exerted a lot of time and effort as well. Bounty hunters who do have more accounts in a campaign can be considered cheating but I prefer to call them GREEDY!..
If we are being sincere to ourselves, bounty hunters are being shortchanged by most of these ICOs even after a successful ICO many of them device different ways to defraud bounty hunters forgetting they are only asking for the services they rendered and not some free token.
This has been the scenario and it is on so many projects, the distribution has been kept delaying for so many times and when they hit the market it takes weeks or even months before they distribute and they will only distribute it when the coin is worth nothing and bounty hunters only gets the crumbs.
TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
5 telegram account per person
3 bitcointalk account per person
5 facebook account per person
4 twitter account per person
2 Reddit account per person
2 LinkedIn account per person
Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.
After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune
After listing...
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.
After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.
Bounty hunters using multiple account,
Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
Then who is the cheater?
Basically, that's how bad our ICO and bounty management system is today, some managers do not let bounty hunters win. But I'm pretty happy to join campaign manage by one of the best manager so I couldn't experience such delays like that.
There is a roadmap.
They should have abide into it. Why waste time if they cannot even follow their own rule.
Listing in exchanges is also there and it should happen like a week before the roadmap hits the date.
If that is not happening then get real fast into withdrawal. That will surely be dumped in a blink.
About distribution though, mostly they are trying to keep it safe to avoid dumps.
They should have abide into it. Why waste time if they cannot even follow their own rule.
Listing in exchanges is also there and it should happen like a week before the roadmap hits the date.
If that is not happening then get real fast into withdrawal. That will surely be dumped in a blink.
About distribution though, mostly they are trying to keep it safe to avoid dumps.
Mostly both are sometimes they cheat the bounty hunters and the team, for the bounty hunters some of them are making multiple account on the bounty and the team are not giving the right reward that earn for the bounty hunters.
For this matter dev and the team delay the bounty reward because of the bounty hunters dumping all their tokens with their multiple accounts and ruin the equilibrium of the market in that token. So for me its the bounty hunters
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