Topic: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent - page 9. (Read 1947 times)

A situation occurred today in my locality,  I have some guys working for me today and suddenly I hard them battling with an issues and when I get close to them to know what exactly the problem is,  and I asked the guy who look strange to me since I am meeting him for the first time and not a worker on the site what his business and why he is distracting the workers from work.

Then the guy narrated his case to be and he said,  that one of the workers came to his betting shop the yesterday to play some visual,  that at first the guy came with ₦‎1,000 in my local currency to make the bets and along the line, he existed the balance but as a regular customer,  the agent decided to allow him at further on credits and in all he accumulated a total debt of ₦‎8,000 because he lost all the bets and since that yesterday he has been on the run from the gambling agent until he traced him to the site today.

So when I wanted to judge the case and possible settlement,  I query the casino agent how can you allow a customer to gamble on credit to the tune of 8k Knowing fully well that the gambler only has a 1k balance which already existed?

Also what is the probability that the gambler will ever return after owning such debt in the betting shops,  note the gambler's daily pay is 2k as a helper on the site,  so he has to work for 4 days to be able to meet that debt that is if he doesn't make any other expenses.

Question is:

What is the possibility of the betting agent getting his money soon/considering the gambler's low-income earnings?

They are real criminals. Btw is it really meaningless to report them to the police? I guess, probably yes, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to operate such a shady business in the daylight. Probably the police gets some money and shuts mouth.
By the way, the most clever thing to do in this case is to attach small camera in front of your cloth, I mean spy camera. When something like that is captured and uploaded online, police and government has no other choice but to catch criminals. In this case, that person will definitely is risking his life, so, that's the perfect time to buy plane ticket and move in a new country and ask for asylum.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

What is the possibility of the betting agent getting his money soon/considering the gambler's low-income earnings?

The Betting agent is to be blame for allow the gambler to play on credit, which is a big risk because if the gambler decide not to come to that shop to bet ,the betting agent will be the one to loose. But I don't know how some gamblers like to gamble on credit in some gambling center, hoping that the last  bet will help them to recover the amount of money he has gamble than to loose again because such gamblers don't know their limit in gambling. I don't borrow money on gambling center because I always budget amount of money I will spend on gambling in a day, and once the money finish without a good results, I will not gamble through out that day than to continue the next day till I recover the money back.

It is good that you have a self control , it is so sad that some gamblers who used the money they get and end up losing too much, there's no other thing that they can do but to sell their belongings. I think both can be blamed but mostly it will be the betting agent since he is the one who let that thing happen and let that person believe in him.

It is good that you have a self control , it is so sad that some gamblers who used the money they get and end up losing too much, there's no other thing that they can do but to sell their belongings. I think both can be blamed but mostly it will be the betting agent since he is the one who let that thing happen and let that person believe in him.

The Betting agent is to be blame for allow the gambler to play on credit, which is a big risk because if the gambler decide not to come to that shop to bet ,the betting agent will be the one to loose. But I don't know how some gamblers like to gamble on credit in some gambling center, hoping that the last  bet will help them to recover the amount of money he has gamble than to loose again because such gamblers don't know their limit in gambling. I don't borrow money on gambling center because I always budget amount of money I will spend on gambling in a day, and once the money finish without a good results, I will not gamble through out that day than to continue the next day till I recover the money back.

The Betting agent is to be blame for allow the gambler to play on credit, which is a big risk because if the gambler decide not to come to that shop to bet ,the betting agent will be the one to loose. But I don't know how some gamblers like to gamble on credit in some gambling center, hoping that the last  bet will help them to recover the amount of money he has gamble than to loose again because such gamblers don't know their limit in gambling. I don't borrow money on gambling center because I always budget amount of money I will spend on gambling in a day, and once the money finish without a good results, I will not gamble through out that day than to continue the next day till I recover the money back.

in gambling confidence is necessary but if self-confidence is too high and too aggressive, that is a big mistake. with a nature like this, gamblers are always driven by curiosity when defeat occurs and it's strange that people like this think about bad things, such as when they lose in a row, they think with high confidence that this loss will make a big win. unknowingly that day was an unlucky day for him but they were always stubborn with their beliefs causing great losses by thinking of something big.

the reason I said before is that gamblers who have hopes or think about something big from gambling will certainly always have a way to continue betting and when the budget runs out gambling agents offer credit and of course gamblers will be happy to receive credit and still hope to get big win to pay off it all but end up losing again.

Some gamblers are so confident that their next game is going to win and because of such confidence, their go on to the point of staking above rheir capacity and even limit, just like in this case, what i can see here is that, most times this case is sign of early gambling addictions.

Because i dont see the reason why someone while losing still will continue to oush further to the point of gambling on credits, we're as he was not surpose to even exust his entire balnce talk more of playing on credits.

I think this has become a risk for gamblers when they will carry out gambling activities. In this case, they already know that gambling is always at risk, not only because gambling is something that is uncertain, but also because there are indeed most platforms that want to get more profit from their users, and they can use many things to make it happen. It's impossible if the agent wants to lose. So yes, it's a risk. therefore, if not ready to lose money is very suitable then it's better to stay away from gambling.

Indeed! Both are responsible to what happened as this won't happen if either one of them didn't agree to one another.
As the saying goes, "it takes two to tango." So yes, both should be held responsible about this situation.
Since the money can be paid in few days only, it is possible to recover such amount.
However, that is, if the gambler decided to come back and pay for his debts. It is not much, so it depends on the gambler here.
Now, this is a very good lesson for the betting agent. Maybe, he is also hoping that the gambler will win and pay him as soon as gets the winning.
Unfortunately, it is gambling, so losing is more likely to happen. This will be a very good lesson to both individuals here.

The fact that the betting agent have fucked up by allowing the gamblers to bet and play games on credit make it look as if the agent already have a forhand understanding with the gambler before that incidence for him to have allow the gambler to acumulate such debts trying to cash up with his loses which landed him into a bigger debt.

So in a clear term of the are at fault aince one can not blame one and leaving out the other since it takes two to commit such crrime, but only the business owner will determine what becomes the ountcome6of both of them.since the agent already know that it will be hard for him to recover from such mistake of allowing the player to gamble on credit which is against the business policy of not credit no play or bets.