Topic: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? - page 17. (Read 7009 times)

That's a more realistic approach and I agree. It's picking who is the lesser evil between the two winnable candidates most of the times. There may be people that would vote idealistically but I think their numbers are insignificant.

I don't know about a lower voter turn out.

Both have big issues but I think more Americans with regular jobs and small or medium businesses prefer not to have their income taxes drained and funneled to other countries for proxy wars.

In the USA, the fact that there are these corruption occupies in their electoral system, in the year that I live, yes, it is obvious that one as a person already knows that it is not worth voting for anything because things can go wrong, in fact the vote has never It has been a secret and this is something that is manifested and the government knows it, in fact I have not voted for many years, because it is not worth it, I learned that voting for politicians is of no use, op I like to assemble people in power that then forget about those who put it there, that is something that is always true in all countries, even the most prosperous ones, however when it comes to doing things to guarantee security it is very different, because It's like you say, you can see everything very transparently, but it's not known what happens at the level of data transmission and how the electric schools can do it so that things happen the way they want, because those who decide and have the most vote are the electoral colleges, which seems incredible to me.

Now, I would like to put something into context, I live in a country where corruption in voting is common, because those of that corrupt current and ideologies that seem quite stupid to me will always win, but that stained the country with it, I It seems that the USA cannot become like this, I know that everyone can see very well, they have the exception of voting through their emails, but the issue is the transmission of data can be used to change everything, and give results that They are not correct, and this seems to me that something like this happening in the USA is incredible, because in a third world country like the one I am in it is normal, however it should not be my third world country, but thanks to the politicians or It is, because it is a very rich country, but the USA has everything to prevent this from happening and they must do something so that it does not become something bad, in itself I have never liked politics

I thought Pence would have had more success or able to accumulate votes as Trump became mired in court business rather then pulling in votes.    Sadly not the entire party seems to be consumed with either Trump or personality politics which Pence did not have a large amount of in prospect apparently.
  For the moment I dont see a great opponent to Trump from within his own party and that probably means the republican's win overall is not competitive enough to garner mainstream votes and win but thats too early to call.   Im not inspired to think an outside bet will come through at present.

Today I just read the news Mike Pence has put his presidential run for 2024 on hold, which basically means he has decided to give up on his big political aspirations, in my opinion.
Obviously, most of us knew that Mike has little to no chance of winning this race and defeat his former boss Donald Trump, but there is no doubt in my mind that there must be some daring bettors out there who threw a few bucks at Mike Penke in hopes of getting a big multiplier in 2024 or cashout when they had the chance to do so.

In other News, it seems Halley is about to surpass DeSantis in the polls, if so I would expect her to start to get more sponsors and donors, not like it mattered, to me the Republican nomination race is over.

I also have the feeling that the poll results and the actual presidential results are different. Also if you say that people do not like both their personalities and won't for none, this is also not going to happen and it is only the opinion on social media.
On election day, you will see the pooling booth full of voters casting their votes.

Since there is a whole year to the election, the election campaign can influence the decision of the people. People will judge the candidates not only on their previous performances but at the same time their stance on the Russia / Ukraine war and also on their point of view about the Israel Palestine conflict.

Trump doesn't have a lot of support among the GOP members of the House or the Senate. It was quite evident during the speaker elections (after Kevin McCarthy got kicked out). Trump's nominee far less votes compared to the candidate from the other camp. When the voting is not open, a lot of the legislators just refuse to support Trump. But many of them lack the balls to take an open stance against him in the public, because then Trump fanboys will destroy them in the primaries. It is quite possible that a lot of these disgruntled Republicans will end up supporting Kennedy in 2026.

I don't see Kennedy going out the race by his own, to be honest. Solely the act of continuing within the race as an independent talks about how stubborn he can be. If he goes out the race, then it would be likely because he was offered some economical benefits by either some politicians with the Republican party who are favorable towards Trump, or even by Trump himself.

On the disarray of the Republican party, it was to be expected if not all the party is unified within the leadership of Trump or against him, there is already much friction going on the election of the next speaker of the House of Representatives, something which should be basic governing cannot be approached without Republicans getting together.

Kennedy will not get more than 2 percent of the votes, pools could show whatever but he has absolutely no chance of getting anything more than 2. They may say his name now, but when it comes to actual voting people like to vote on people that have a chance to win, we all know that he has no chance of winning and that means people will not vote on someone who has guarantee of losing the election.

Polls are different because of this, they are just asking people who would they rather see as president and I am sure that there are 9-22% people who would like to see Kennedy as president I have no doubt about that but the reality is that even they know he will not be the president and they are going to avoid voting for him when the time comes because of this reason. He will get max 2% and the rest will be between Biden and Trump, they were both terrible presidents so people will not vote much if you ask me, they will not care, whoever wins, USA loses.

That is exactly the point. Trump will be the big loser in case Kennedy secures significant support. But elections are still a full 12 months away and a lot of things can happen before that. If Kennedy feels that he has zero chance of winning the race, then he may pull out and may even declare support for Trump. And by next year, Trump should be able to consolidate support within the GOP. There is still a risk though, as a lot of infighting is going on among the Republicans. Hopefully everything will be sorted out soon.

You are correct mate. Betting on politics is more of you wasting your efforts because the system can be truncated by human agents through manipulation by vote rigging and buying. In my country, elections are always manipulated and sabotaged without any remorse so let us assume this is the case, can you be comfortable and feel convenient placing bet on it? A system that is not free and fair to start with. That of US might be a free and fair outwardly but the process can be marred. Soni would not waste my resources doing such. I rather put it on a sports betting for fun than go for election bet.

It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious
but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be  that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides.

I  cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest.
Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections.

Well. I personally disagree.
It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term).
The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only.
Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual.  

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

Kennedy's entry is more advantageous to Biden than it is for Trump.
I have heard some political annalists to suggest most of Kennedy supports comes from Republican Voters who are not happy with Trump, whether because he is being indicted or because they are not as far in the right as Trump has become lately.
I have already seen a couple or political articles by right wing media tackling the independent run of Kennedy, because they are very clear on the damage those independent candidates can inflict on when the race is as close as the 2020 Presidential run was.

I wonder if some other candidate will run independently and spoil the possibilities of Biden. It is very unlikely to happen, but in politics those unexpected moves can happen often.

Kennedy's entry as an independent has complicated things. Recent polls have shown him with support ranging from 9 to 22 points. The most important thing is that Biden is leading in almost all the polls where Kennedy is also there. Only one poll from Harvard-Harris has shown Trump in the lead. The most recent poll from USA Today/Suffolk has Trump and Biden in tie, when Kennedy and West are also given as option. When only Kennedy is there, then Biden is having a clear lead. All that said, I am not sure whether these trends are going to hold.

The low odds for the Trump bet is due to high revenue not that he is winning unless we were to include the Charlie Sheen version of winning in the more infamous definition of the word.

I love the story of the very wild outside bet of a second Obama ticket run being more likely then the better known Clinton run occuring and somehow the odds improved so much its a pay off now ?  Great just shows what makes the money really, that impossible outside which was Trump at one time but imo its vastly overplayed now.
  Trump runs as a legal defense is the story I most recognize, very few people could justify doing that and the cost of running but he can comparatively vs legal fees and the consequences it makes perfect sense so I dont blame the man tbh.

They make so much money and collect that data to sell automatically.  Data mining is more profitable then gold mining I bet, far easier and more lucrative no doubt.

I do not think Trump is seeking to become a martyr, he seems more interested on continuing to be a leader. He does not want to face defeat in the hands of the legal system of the United States of America.
Rather than a martyr, his opposition has compared him to a cult leader, someone who is not supposed to be questioned and someone who is secretly doing good deeds against the "deep state".
And since he is not an idiot when comes to politics and Public Relationships, he does not miss the opportunity to capitalize on it.

Also, since some codefendants have started to flip on him on the RICO case within Georgia, I would have expected his odds to be affected by it, I have not checked yet, I am more interested on the polling.

Well, the world has been like this for many thousands of years. People sympathize with the martyrs. Why? Because it's in our genes. Because those who didn't have this trait have died out more than a million years ago. Compassionate people are those who have survived. Now, this situation has been abused by some politicians for the last couple of millenia.


Yeah , gambling is an amazing thing sometimes.

Well, I think that Everything has its way of being, it can be a political strategy and that is the way, for our part we could think that when it comes to how to do it to have the best blow for the strongest candidate, then these types of things Happen Well, on a personal level I think that Trump is very much the best for this format of Being president, I don't see another one like him so that he can compete, in this case we must see well what the next step will be , I know that Trump's enemies will continue to attack According to the judges, the cases in which Trump is accused of everything, especially what has harmed him the most is that the classified and Nuclear documents can be seen as something very serious, it is something very Delicate because it is a national asset. and very delicate, but I say something, if Trump gets out of all this, I don't want to Imagine the massive layoffs of those Who have Made his life Impossible.

The bad thing about politics is that it can give you very great power from one moment to the next, and Trump has already been manipulating certain leaders who Agree with his way of being, his mandate and also that he has the ability to speak very well and to avoid wars, or rather to make a war worse, in this order of ideas we can think that they can laugh at the correct level of history, if on the one hand it prevents the war between Russia and Ukraine from Ending , and It also prevents him from getting involved in any way with Istal, or because if the conflict lasts for a long time, it is necessary to see that things can go according to plan, but if, on the Contrary, he as president manages to do things better things but a worse war is unleashed, many may think what it could be, and even more so with what Trump has demonstrated, if with not having so much power he can make masses move, now with power not only the handles but a large number of politicians who will be at his mercy and those who will not, he will try to silence them, like every Politician.

These days there is a lot of division in the people, and Trump is certainly the person for the job when it comes down to divisive politics.

In my estimates, I think Trump will slightly win the election.