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To whom exactly is this "known", mate? Looks like some communist propaganda to me. Elections maybe still manipulated in some underdeveloped countries, but not in the countries of the level of the US.

Besides, we are talking about betting not on whether the elections will be manipulated or not, we are talking about betting on Rep and Dem nominees, and on who will be the next president.

American elections are conducted in a very opaque manner and they are susceptible for manipulation and rigging. There are provisions for postal voting, which are being misused by both the mainstream parties. At least when compared to the elections in European Union and Japan, those in the United States are conducted in a very unfair manner. A perfect example is the 2008 United States Senate election in Minnesota. Norm Coleman of the GOP was leading after all the votes were count. But Al Franken of the DFL was declared as the winner, claiming that tons of untallied ballots (all in favor of Franken) suddenly propped up everywhere.

We know about all those facts because the freedom of speech is on the high level in the US. We know about many bad things happening there because people can investigate and talk about it openly without fear to be punished. But let's not turn this thread into something that belongs to Politics and Society, shall we?

Let's talk about betting on 2024 USA elections.

major bookies will open such betting line under politics. but for now, only futuur has their betting lines on this subject. but once there are clear candidates, top bookies like stake and sportsbet will surely have their lineup as well.
do remember that US elections is like one of the major global political events, so the likelihood of showing up their betting lines in bookies is quite high.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 11, 2023, 11:22:09 AM

To whom exactly is this "known", mate? Looks like some communist propaganda to me. Elections maybe still manipulated in some underdeveloped countries, but not in the countries of the level of the US.

Besides, we are talking about betting not on whether the elections will be manipulated or not, we are talking about betting on Rep and Dem nominees, and on who will be the next president.

American elections are conducted in a very opaque manner and they are susceptible for manipulation and rigging. There are provisions for postal voting, which are being misused by both the mainstream parties. At least when compared to the elections in European Union and Japan, those in the United States are conducted in a very unfair manner. A perfect example is the 2008 United States Senate election in Minnesota. Norm Coleman of the GOP was leading after all the votes were count. But Al Franken of the DFL was declared as the winner, claiming that tons of untallied ballots (all in favor of Franken) suddenly propped up everywhere.

We know about all those facts because the freedom of speech is on the high level in the US. We know about many bad things happening there because people can investigate and talk about it openly without fear to be punished. But let's not turn this thread into something that belongs to Politics and Society, shall we?

Let's talk about betting on 2024 USA elections.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 11, 2023, 11:22:09 AM

To whom exactly is this "known", mate? Looks like some communist propaganda to me. Elections maybe still manipulated in some underdeveloped countries, but not in the countries of the level of the US.

Besides, we are talking about betting not on whether the elections will be manipulated or not, we are talking about betting on Rep and Dem nominees, and on who will be the next president.

American elections are conducted in a very opaque manner and they are susceptible for manipulation and rigging. There are provisions for postal voting, which are being misused by both the mainstream parties. At least when compared to the elections in European Union and Japan, those in the United States are conducted in a very unfair manner. A perfect example is the 2008 United States Senate election in Minnesota. Norm Coleman of the GOP was leading after all the votes were count. But Al Franken of the DFL was declared as the winner, claiming that tons of untallied ballots (all in favor of Franken) suddenly propped up everywhere.

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But in a perfect world I would hope for someone with above 100x odds to win and bring me good profit.

There are a few whose odds are >100x. The first name that comes to my mind at this point is that of Bernie Sanders. From the GOP side, we have Josh Hawley, Kevin McCarthy, Donald Trump Jr, Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin. From the Dems we have Tammy Duckworth, Joe Manchin, Amy Klobuchar and Hillary Clinton. At this point, the odds for most of these candidates are very low, but at least for some of them, it will change as the election date approaches. So you may or may not turn lucky, if you select any of these candidates.

Well, the options can be reduced if one follows day by day with what each candidate Offers and apart from the Surveys they do in the USA, the surveys are very decisive at this point because they show very well the Feeling of a population and Statistically speaking the numbers here that these studies are attached are very Important to be able to help make a decision and even more so if you are in a bet,and although I do not have information on possible matches, I think that one of the ones that could Possibly have a win to stay is theEmblematic Trump,it Seems to me that he has given a lot to talk about.

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I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

To whom exactly is this "known", mate? Looks like some communist propaganda to me. Elections maybe still manipulated in some underdeveloped countries, but not in the countries of the level of the US.

Besides, we are talking about betting not on whether the elections will be manipulated or not, we are talking about betting on Rep and Dem nominees, and on who will be the next president.

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As you all will say that Still there is almost 1 and half year away for USA elections but still I want to highlight this option because here there will be almost in millions of bets that people will do and also that's based on speculations and also someone's interest.
I think that this could be one of the biggest Bets we can see because a whole world Knows america and it's superpower and it's has international recognization because of it's influence to the whole world.
So what are your speculations over this USA elections. And I know that everybody has their own speculations and also wins and also loose. So let's see what will happen?

It would be nice to see some new blood in the game, I see John F. Kennedy Jr. has thrown his hat into the ring as a possible candidate for the Democratic party, at 69 he's at least younger than the current two expected candidates. However it would be nice to see some people in their 40's or 50's who are well balanced, able to negotiate across party lines and generally more in tune with the generations either side of them. It seems obscene in the current age that the most sophisticated and advanced country on the planet is stuck with two contenders on the verge of going senile. It's very hard to predict the winner but it feels like Trump is definitely too tarnished compared to his first run.

Well, Trump might still get the power from the people as he still has a lot of connections to help in his campaign, but talking about his productivity as a politician, I don’t things he’s capable enough. I just hope to see a new candidate that is all in, you know with a younger age and that has bigger plans for the future of the country, and not just to fulfill one’s desire by entering politics.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on April 05, 2023, 01:40:46 AM

Many candidates will run for the presidency in the US in the coming 2024. And I see only two groups that the candidates can come from and these are democrats and Republicans.

The Republicans who can run are Trump, Youngkin, Scott, Sununu, Ramaswamy, Rubio, Pence, Noem, Hutchinson, Laffy, Bolton, Cheney, and others. And for the Democrats, Sina Biden, Sanders, Warren, Polis, Pritzker, Klobuchar, Cortez, Harris, Kennedy Jr., and Williamson. It's hard to predict who will win out of those, let's see. But I'm pretty sure Trump and Biden will face again at the end of the games, just a thought of mine only.

From the Republicans group, my vote would go for Trump while for the democrats I think I will go for Biden because so far these two candidates are the hottest in the publics eye but if I were to choose if who will win between them I think I will go for Trump as I think many people are also in favor with Trump and he is more popular than in Biden.

Many people think that Bidens victory is not fair. This is one of the reasons why me and others dislike this guy. In spite of these analyses I made, I am still not betting on 2024 elections because it's not really my game and I am already playing a lot of gambling games lately. I don't want to add more and complicate things further.

- There are also many candidates who will run for president in 2024. But I think most communities in the US already know who will face them again in the end.

It is likely that the intense rivalry between the two presidential candidates will repeat again this year, we just don't know if this time Trump will be able to get through because in the last election Trump seemed to have been cheated by Biden, think about the campaign Trump is always flooded with supporter even when he went campaigning while Biden was the opposite and suddenly Biden won.

But this time, we need to see if Trump will still be interested to run after his legal battle.
Or this battle will give him a very good reason to run again and prove what he can do this time.
In any case, there will be bookies that will list this betting line under politics.
Site like futuur actually have some betting lines already in relation to this political event.
Harris and Trump are the popular names who are on the poll right now who will likely to run this post.
But it can easily be replaced once Democrats and Republicans officially announced their respective candidates.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on April 05, 2023, 02:25:01 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on April 05, 2023, 01:40:46 AM

Many candidates will run for the presidency in the US in the coming 2024. And I see only two groups that the candidates can come from and these are democrats and Republicans.

The Republicans who can run are Trump, Youngkin, Scott, Sununu, Ramaswamy, Rubio, Pence, Noem, Hutchinson, Laffy, Bolton, Cheney, and others. And for the Democrats, Sina Biden, Sanders, Warren, Polis, Pritzker, Klobuchar, Cortez, Harris, Kennedy Jr., and Williamson. It's hard to predict who will win out of those, let's see. But I'm pretty sure Trump and Biden will face again at the end of the games, just a thought of mine only.

From the Republicans group, my vote would go for Trump while for the democrats I think I will go for Biden because so far these two candidates are the hottest in the publics eye but if I were to choose if who will win between them I think I will go for Trump as I think many people are also in favor with Trump and he is more popular than in Biden.

Many people think that Bidens victory is not fair. This is one of the reasons why me and others dislike this guy. In spite of these analyses I made, I am still not betting on 2024 elections because it's not really my game and I am already playing a lot of gambling games lately. I don't want to add more and complicate things further.

- There are also many candidates who will run for president in 2024. But I think most communities in the US already know who will face them again in the end.

It is likely that the intense rivalry between the two presidential candidates will repeat again this year, we just don't know if this time Trump will be able to get through because in the last election Trump seemed to have been cheated by Biden, think about the campaign Trump is always flooded with supporter even when he went campaigning while Biden was the opposite and suddenly Biden won.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on April 08, 2023, 01:31:34 PM

Biden will have little to no chance at winning this election if his candidate is a more capable and more intelligent contender. Let's face it, the only reason Biden won this election is because hello, he's vying for the position against Kanye West, and Donald Trump, who need I say both have their dirts exposed online for everyone to see. Granted that Bernie Sanders run for presidency, I would willingly put my money on the guy. Thus far he's been the most progressive and most intelligent out of all the candidates, and had just been dealt a bad hand by working with little to no campaign funding.

Donald Trump has his die-hard fans to vouch for him, but Biden, I don't think so. I haven't seen any die-hard Biden fans quite lately, I think that's a good indication he's not gonna win this election if he ever runs.

It's really a weird world we live in... having someone like Kanye West as potentially being the president of the United States

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Most places have betting up until the last day, it closes usually 24 hours before the voting starts, so you would still have some time but considering it is in 2024 and we are in April 2023, we can easily say that if you really know what you are doing then you can vote in the next year or so and you would be still fine.

I do not think that there is much to discuss, we basically know the candidates, will what they say really change anything? As of now, Trump is hated, and I know that Biden is mocked, between a mocked vs hated, I would say mocked has a bigger chance. Biden might be a senile old man barely putting a sentence together, but at the very least he is not hated as much.

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Biden will have little to no chance at winning this election if his candidate is a more capable and more intelligent contender. Let's face it, the only reason Biden won this election is because hello, he's vying for the position against Kanye West, and Donald Trump, who need I say both have their dirts exposed online for everyone to see. Granted that Bernie Sanders run for presidency, I would willingly put my money on the guy. Thus far he's been the most progressive and most intelligent out of all the candidates, and had just been dealt a bad hand by working with little to no campaign funding.

Donald Trump has his die-hard fans to vouch for him, but Biden, I don't think so. I haven't seen any die-hard Biden fans quite lately, I think that's a good indication he's not gonna win this election if he ever runs.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on March 25, 2023, 04:01:58 PM

Quote from: nimogsm on March 25, 2023, 05:40:33 AM

I think it is still too early to talk about the elections.They are scheduled only for 2024 and a lot more will happen during this period.I think we should return to the conversation at the end of the year and then it will be possible to discuss at least the candidates,since their list has not yet been officially announced.But what can I say for sure,it will be a high-profile event and many people will place bets.

^ I agree with you and locking this thread for a while which I think is much better.
We have got plenty of time and there could be a lot of things that could be changed, regarding betting, this was done before, and no doubt it will happen again n the next election. Because for me, many factors can influence election results, including the state of the economy, voter demographics, and political events that may occur between now and the 2024 elections. It is important to conduct thorough research and analysis before making any predictions or decisions related to elections or betting.

Well, I'm not that knowledgeable about politics, because it's something I don't like, but if I look at the popularity ratings that they have in the US, what does the US want to go towards and which candidate is closest to what they want to improve in USA, eventually as everything is going, I think that one of the strongest candidates that can arrive is Donald Trump, in fact as everything is going I think that the best thing for now and that I think would win would be TRUMP, of course I am speculating, I know that there is a long way to go time, but a panorama like that can be seen, eventually it is better to live as everything is in the USA to see what can continue.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 23, 2023, 12:20:53 AM

As you all will say that Still there is almost 1 and half year away for USA elections but still I want to highlight this option because here there will be almost in millions of bets that people will do and also that's based on speculations and also someone's interest.
I think that this could be one of the biggest Bets we can see because a whole world Knows america and it's superpower and it's has international recognization because of it's influence to the whole world.
So what are your speculations over this USA elections. And I know that everybody has their own speculations and also wins and also loose. So let's see what will happen?

It would be nice to see some new blood in the game, I see John F. Kennedy Jr. has thrown his hat into the ring as a possible candidate for the Democratic party, at 69 he's at least younger than the current two expected candidates. However it would be nice to see some people in their 40's or 50's who are well balanced, able to negotiate across party lines and generally more in tune with the generations either side of them. It seems obscene in the current age that the most sophisticated and advanced country on the planet is stuck with two contenders on the verge of going senile. It's very hard to predict the winner but it feels like Trump is definitely too tarnished compared to his first run.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 06, 2023, 12:56:21 PM

Biden should have retired a long time ago.

The recent story with the indictment of Trump really surprised me. As far as I know, these charges are not preventing Trump from running for office. Personally, I see only two real contenders to win the 2024 election so far - Biden and Trump. It's hard to say exactly who will win.

They really screw Trump making sure he will not run. This is going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Desantis is not the president type also and even if he is popular he wouldn't win. They will also find faults against him.

So much power is given to the old man who can't even finish a sentence and then mumbles something SOTU.
If we are not to consider our bets but just consider the welfare of US as a country, IMO none of them fit to seat but Biden might still win.

I am not a citizen of US, but honestly, if we are to really consider the welfare of the people of US, even with our bets, I would bet on trump, and pray he wins.
All that the others are doing is like you said, trying to make sure that trump does not contest in the election simply because they know that if eventually he contest, he may likely win, so they are doing everything possible to see that he does not come out, but then again, it's not in their power to do and undo a man whom God has chosen, if truly destiny have chosen him to lead US as its president again, he will definitely contest and win, so If at all, I was going to bet on this election, my bet will go to him.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 06, 2023, 12:56:21 PM

Biden should have retired a long time ago.

The recent story with the indictment of Trump really surprised me. As far as I know, these charges are not preventing Trump from running for office. Personally, I see only two real contenders to win the 2024 election so far - Biden and Trump. It's hard to say exactly who will win.

They really screw Trump making sure he will not run. This is going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Desantis is not the president type also and even if he is popular he wouldn't win. They will also find faults against him.

So much power is given to the old man who can't even finish a sentence and then mumbles something SOTU.
If we are not to consider our bets but just consider the welfare of US as a country, IMO none of them fit to seat but Biden might still win.

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I mostly I agree. I think elections are getting more unpredictable as the politics in the United States are moving from the center to the opposite sides of the spectrum.

I would not be surprised if polls and surveys would be trying to use information gathered from the population through the use of social media and other technologies which the population is used to nowadays.

They may feel tempted because, it may be more effective for them pay Google for a package of personal information for them to analyze than actually invest hundreds of hours asking people about their political preferences in an explicit manner, not everyone feels comfortable talking about it or express what they truly feel.

The thing is that advertisers and politicians, etc, have always wanted to put people in a box and feed them information to change their minds into their advantage. It used to be very broad, but now it's starting to be targeted specifically to each person through their phones.

Every time an app in your phone suggests you something, a video, an article, a photo, whatever, if it comes from a company, it probably means that someone is pushing you slightly to whatever they want to think. That's advertisement, but on a fine grained level.

I would encourage people not to use these platforms if they want to have independent thought and full control of their minds.

Very unlikely to happen, most of the people in the world are already accustomed to using their phones to get their news and even those that are pushed on purpose to change the narrative and distract the population from more severe troubles. Even on TV, the News are not what they used to be.

I recall when I was younger, it all just the reporter giving facts and reserving their opinions, but now we see reporters and journalists taking about their feelings opinions and even sometimes openly mocking political adversaries on air. This tendency has become more common these last years as newspapers continue to disappear.

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Biden should have retired a long time ago.

The recent story with the indictment of Trump really surprised me. As far as I know, these charges are not preventing Trump from running for office. Personally, I see only two real contenders to win the 2024 election so far - Biden and Trump. It's hard to say exactly who will win.

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The US elections is still far away. Although the political preparations are definitely underway already, bettors should still wait before betting. The elections will be held more than one year and six months from now. That's still a long way. There will still be many things that could happen within that time span. We don't even know if those people who are assumed to be the candidates in the 2024 elections are the ones who will actually be running. Trump for instance may not be there in the 2024 race.

There is enough logic in your statement. Massive changes can happen over a long period of time. Moreover, those willing to bet on following Joe Biden or Donald Trump have considerable uncertainty as to whether they will be elected at that time. Betting odds among gamblers may also change around this election when that moment approaches. I think we should wait more before considering such matters. Because any change can happen. Moreover, since there is a long time for the election, gamblers should wait patiently.

In politics, the wind can change easily and quickly. One false statement may turn the entire public sentiment around. One confidential file from a candidate leading in surveys leaked and it could upend everything. A dark horse candidate could end up winning the race. So if I am betting on US elections, I will have to place my bets as soon as the election day is near. It is when a surprise factor that could possibly change the potential results is no longer expected.

The odds will be very different by then when you place a bet just a day before the election. You will be missing potential profits when you could just learn what people are saying. Candidates are judged by the sentiments and what they did in the past and who they would believe whether the mainstream media or the youtube influencers who are constantly updated with what is going on not just in the DC.

There is a year and a half still and things could change after a year when Biden will start distributing stimi checks again and canceling loans. That will make him win the race. But of course, the consequences will follow. We'll just see what happens. The news halfway around the world can change the course though.

Not necessarily a day before the elections. Betting might even be closed by then. Perhaps a week or two will do.

Betting as the event draws closer may actually go both ways. It could indeed mean that you miss potential profit, but it could also mean that you will have the opportunity for a much bigger profit. For instance, Biden may be the favorite now and Trump the underdog. But it is possible that a year from now, Trump will become the new favorite and Biden the underdog.

You are right, the distribution of stimulus checks is a big factor and the betting odds for Biden might go down as he becomes the stronger favorite, but it does not necessarily make him win. If that's 6 months before the elections, this old man could still literally stumble a number of times while walking down the Air Force One or make more gibberish speeches and appear too old to earn a new term. This could mean that his betting odds will go much higher as he becomes the underdog because people find him unfit for office.

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Quote from: btc78 on April 04, 2023, 10:49:10 PM

while it is too early to talk about whom to choose(as candidate) still we are not sure who will be the candidate per party so maybe talking about this is not to be tackled now(unless we are Biden supporter)

But talking about the topic , I am not interested in any form of political gambling as I once tried betting in our local politician that ends out being cheated and lose.

and also one thing is that there are so many place where to bet.

Is there corruption in your country? Because if there is, you have simply wasted your money betting on the elections in that case. A corrupted system can never be stable and there will always be changes happening around, and when it's elections season, you better stay away from betting on them because the elections are where the biggest corruptions happen.

I believe if bookies have betting open for the elections of the USA of 2024, they probably know who the candidates would be, or you can simply bet on the parties that the candidates come from, so that shouldn't be a concern, but who the winner will be, is obviously what requires some research.

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Quote from: Reatim on April 05, 2023, 11:59:56 PM

Quote from: retreat on April 04, 2023, 08:22:09 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 23, 2023, 03:00:41 AM

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

it is as what we have been hearing from news around the world that there is manipulation happening in campaigning and yes also there are chance that Donald Trump will take part again and change the momentum of Biden.
but about interest in betting? of course I am because this is a worldwide event that gamblers need to take part Grin

have missed the recent election so maybe this time I will take the right bet.

Well, they've already conspired to indict Trump with charges about his businesses in the past. It might be hard for him to really win unless he can fight back and win. Or this will strike a revolution which could make his situation a lot worse. There is just too much that could happen.

If Trump will not be able to participate in the election, you can be sure that it's Biden who will win. A sure win for the gamblers but very uncertain where the economy goes.

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