Topic: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? - page 34. (Read 7009 times)
There are many more to the general elections to be held in the USA. I don't think making a prediction right now will give a healthy result. And I'm not from the US, but as someone who lives outside the US, I have some observations. And I can share them. Biden is the current president of the USA. Biden is the subject of controversy from time to time due to his age and health status. But as a democrat, he continues to gain sympathy despite the criticisms directed at him because he has managed to stay at an equal distance from everyone. On the other hand, the other strongest candidate is Donald Trump. He manages to impress the masses with his populist rhetoric. I think world politics is in a temperate climate. So my guess is for Biden. I think Biden will probably win again.
Hey OP! I suggest that you create a poll listing the candidates who are likely to run for President in 2024. I don't follow the US elections closely, so it would be helpful for someone like me who is not very knowledgeable about the current happenings. Having a list of the candidates would give us an idea of who is running for president, and we can conduct further research on the new names that might appear.
Well, if you are interested on learning more about the USA politics whether it is for betting purposes, I would like to suggest you to check out some political commentator Youtube channels. I won't directly link any of them here, because I do not want to influence the perception of anyone of politics, we are supposed to do our own research in this matter as well, as we do on crypto.
In general those videos are short and explain the current happenings on USA politics from a left wing or right wing stand point.
If you plan to bet on these incoming presidencial elections, watching those kind of formats is a must, in my humble opinion.
Cheers.
US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.
I wonder why would anyone think Trump handled economy well, you do realize it was his term when pandemic happened and he did basically nothing about it right? He just printed money and gave money to his friends under PPP as well and huge tax cuts to rich.In any case, I would bet on Biden, you may not like to, and you may dislike him, and you may think he wasn't a better president, but majority of the nation believes Trump is such a terrible president that they rather see a senile old dude barely speaking to be up there on that post instead of Trump. You can deny this, you may think it is not true, but that's what happened on the last elections and I think it would be the case on the next one as well, people dislike Trump more than they dislike Biden.
Hey OP! I suggest that you create a poll listing the candidates who are likely to run for President in 2024. I don't follow the US elections closely, so it would be helpful for someone like me who is not very knowledgeable about the current happenings. Having a list of the candidates would give us an idea of who is running for president, and we can conduct further research on the new names that might appear.
Any comment on this?
https://twitter.com/robertsepehr/status/1662917294379655170
The US media has been largely silent on this story. The released pictures and videos are extremely graphic and if it was anyone from the GOP, then that individual would have been arrested by now, but to jail and his political career would have been finished. But then it is Hunter Biden, who belongs to the left-wing political spectrum. The only platform that is covering this story is Twitter and any related posts are being removed immediately from other platforms such as Facebook.
Well.. I got one article from Fox News:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nearly-10k-photos-hunter-bidens-laptop-hit-web-truth-transparency
https://twitter.com/robertsepehr/status/1662917294379655170
The US media has been largely silent on this story. The released pictures and videos are extremely graphic and if it was anyone from the GOP, then that individual would have been arrested by now, but to jail and his political career would have been finished. But then it is Hunter Biden, who belongs to the left-wing political spectrum. The only platform that is covering this story is Twitter and any related posts are being removed immediately from other platforms such as Facebook.
Well.. I got one article from Fox News:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nearly-10k-photos-hunter-bidens-laptop-hit-web-truth-transparency
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The president in the end is way more than one person.
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The president in the end is way more than one person.
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This is true, but only if he/she is not a dictator. Since we are talking the USA elections here, it's true, the president has a team, and this is what actually counts. A team of professionals that supports the president will make things work properly. A wise person can get a team of wise advisors, he/she doesn't need to know everything, the team will help. Voters know it, and they will elect someone with a better team.
Yeah, I think it's happening in the entire western world at least, only that each country is at a different stage.
And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
Argentina is a typical Latin American country, where successive governments exchange cash for votes despite the fact that the treasuries are empty most of the times. Look at what is happening right now in Venezuela. When the governments try to appease the citizens with freebies and cash handouts, there is no incentive to work. And in the end, the economy collapses as a result of high taxes, rising federal debt and lack of manpower for blue-collar jobs. Socialism is the evil which destroyed countries that were once rich, such as Argentina and Venezuela. And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
But, it will make dollar devalued more and more, their benefit is that other currencies get even worse, look at Sterling for example, it dropped so much in value, that's the trouble. I hope that we all do better, we need to, it's not going to sustain too long if we don't.
Mike Pence enters the circus ring as contender for the ringmaster job :p Do we like the chances for Pence first on nomination and to win overall, I think he could do it. He is the official voice of reason in this whole sorry story, ironically the counter now inverse to the path that Trump has taken with his attempts to retain/retake power. He is surely closer to the center then Trump so I would say more viable for actually winning, in theory the party should be looking for a candidate who can take votes from across the full spectrum of political views in the population.
At present I would rate Pence over DeSantis for actual name recognition across the nation and so return of votes, long odds that grow shorter would be profitable.
At present I would rate Pence over DeSantis for actual name recognition across the nation and so return of votes, long odds that grow shorter would be profitable.
Mike Pence was the VP candidate from the GOP back in 2016 and 2020. His name is associated with Donald Trump. That is not the case with Ron DeSantis and he is considered as someone more independent. And this can be advantageous for DeSantis, if he wants to attract the moderate vote. During the last few years, Trump has lost votes from large sections of the society, such as suburban women and blue-collar workers. Pence is not someone who can attract these votes back to the GOP. DeSantis maybe able to do that job, as he has done a great job as the governor of Florida since 2019.
Mike Pence enters the circus ring as contender for the ringmaster job :p Do we like the chances for Pence first on nomination and to win overall, I think he could do it. He is the official voice of reason in this whole sorry story, ironically the counter now inverse to the path that Trump has taken with his attempts to retain/retake power. He is surely closer to the center then Trump so I would say more viable for actually winning, in theory the party should be looking for a candidate who can take votes from across the full spectrum of political views in the population.
At present I would rate Pence over DeSantis for actual name recognition across the nation and so return of votes, long odds that grow shorter would be profitable.
At present I would rate Pence over DeSantis for actual name recognition across the nation and so return of votes, long odds that grow shorter would be profitable.
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Well, the one who is the least bad is still the best among the worst, right? So that's definitely what's going to be the case for the US elections. Even if Trump was not the best for the nation, Biden as you said is already pretty aged and people will obviously think twice before voting for him considering he might not be totally up to the task.
But, at the end of the day, it boils down to the personal preferences of everyone. Some might think that Biden is still better than Trump when it comes to presidential privileges, and some might think the opposite of that.
Well, the one who is the least bad is still the best among the worst, right? So that's definitely what's going to be the case for the US elections. Even if Trump was not the best for the nation, Biden as you said is already pretty aged and people will obviously think twice before voting for him considering he might not be totally up to the task.
But, at the end of the day, it boils down to the personal preferences of everyone. Some might think that Biden is still better than Trump when it comes to presidential privileges, and some might think the opposite of that.
True, at the end of the day the age of the president is an important thing.
Cognitive decline and risk of death are actually a reality, these people are quite old, Biden and Trump. Not sure who is going to win, but whoever does will be one of the oldest ever presidents.
Perhaps the increasing age of the presidents on America has something to do with the political establishment in Washington trying to keep the power away from the reach of younger generations with more radical ideas which could change the system we all know and so many embrace as good enough as it is.
It makes sense, if we also consider the strange lack of democrat foes who are willing to stand up and face Joe as candidate for their own party. The minds of the democrat party and also the Republican party seem to be afraid of what the political youth of the zoomers/milenials would do with more power. However, we all know that it is just matter of time before they get there. Changed or not.
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Well, the one who is the least bad is still the best among the worst, right? So that's definitely what's going to be the case for the US elections. Even if Trump was not the best for the nation, Biden as you said is already pretty aged and people will obviously think twice before voting for him considering he might not be totally up to the task.
But, at the end of the day, it boils down to the personal preferences of everyone. Some might think that Biden is still better than Trump when it comes to presidential privileges, and some might think the opposite of that.
Well, the one who is the least bad is still the best among the worst, right? So that's definitely what's going to be the case for the US elections. Even if Trump was not the best for the nation, Biden as you said is already pretty aged and people will obviously think twice before voting for him considering he might not be totally up to the task.
But, at the end of the day, it boils down to the personal preferences of everyone. Some might think that Biden is still better than Trump when it comes to presidential privileges, and some might think the opposite of that.
True, at the end of the day the age of the president is an important thing.
Cognitive decline and risk of death are actually a reality, these people are quite old, Biden and Trump. Not sure who is going to win, but whoever does will be one of the oldest ever presidents.
Well in Brazil case, the whole nation was screwed from the start, the one that won was an ex-convict, and the one who lost was the last president who had the flee the nation for the corruption he did. There wasn't really a good candidate, everyone just argued which one was worse... well that does mimic USA elections exactly.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
Well, the one who is the least bad is still the best among the worst, right? So that's definitely what's going to be the case for the US elections. Even if Trump was not the best for the nation, Biden as you said is already pretty aged and people will obviously think twice before voting for him considering he might not be totally up to the task.One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
But, at the end of the day, it boils down to the personal preferences of everyone. Some might think that Biden is still better than Trump when it comes to presidential privileges, and some might think the opposite of that.
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Although all politicians are the same to me, I like Trump more 'for the simple fact that he is not a born politician.
Although all politicians are the same to me, I like Trump more 'for the simple fact that he is not a born politician.
I would agree with you. US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.
Joe Biden is already officially running, perhaps you missed his announcement.
Also, one of the strong points about Trump is that he is a natural negotiator, he managed to prove it while dealing with Mexican diplomacy (according to him) and also trying to deal the the leader of North Korea, but it would take him more than being a good negotiator to stop the invasion against Ukraine. Putin would likely ask for concessions and perhaps part of the captured territory to be officially recognized as part of Russia. I do not know what Trump would do in that case.
The Ukrainian government would not accept such terms.
Also, one of the strong points about Trump is that he is a natural negotiator, he managed to prove it while dealing with Mexican diplomacy (according to him) and also trying to deal the the leader of North Korea, but it would take him more than being a good negotiator to stop the invasion against Ukraine. Putin would likely ask for concessions and perhaps part of the captured territory to be officially recognized as part of Russia. I do not know what Trump would do in that case.
The Ukrainian government would not accept such terms.
The Ukrainian government will accept whatever their masters tell them. But I don't think that there will be any ceasefire attempts before the "spring offensive". Ukraine claims that they have readied an army of more than 1 million people, and in a few months they will be able to retake all the lost territory (including the Crimean peninsula). There will be no settlement before everyone gets to know who gets the upper hand in this offensive. If Russia manages to hold off the offensive, then in all probability they will get the occupied areas as a concession. If that doesn't happen, then the settlement will be done as per the terms of the NATO.
I also think that things will not prosper with respect to the war, they are already very accomplished with respect to it, but as far as I am concerned I see that this conflict got out of hand for Biden and the Americans see that, they cannot allow themselves to have someone to govern and be so soft on these issues, we have all seen that the presidents of the USA have very radical positions when it comes to these conflicts and this is for me what sank Biden, however Trump did not It is so, if it is again a contest between Trump and Biden, clearly the winner will be Trump, unless they invalidate it for now with the accusations that they have been taking from Trumo, which would be a very dirty move on the part of these politicians, Although all politicians are the same to me, I like Trump more 'for the simple fact that he is not a born politician.
Yeah, I think it's happening in the entire western world at least, only that each country is at a different stage.
And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
Argentina is a typical Latin American country, where successive governments exchange cash for votes despite the fact that the treasuries are empty most of the times. Look at what is happening right now in Venezuela. When the governments try to appease the citizens with freebies and cash handouts, there is no incentive to work. And in the end, the economy collapses as a result of high taxes, rising federal debt and lack of manpower for blue-collar jobs. Socialism is the evil which destroyed countries that were once rich, such as Argentina and Venezuela.
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I agree, in many countries democracy has turned into a dictatorship of two parties. Here in Venezuela is also something which has happened in the past and even to this day.
I would say that it is a consequence of polarization and redicalization on the ideas of the population, as they move fruther from the center to the right or left, the variety of parties which can exist decreases, also the management of the media on political matters does not help with polarization.
I agree, in many countries democracy has turned into a dictatorship of two parties. Here in Venezuela is also something which has happened in the past and even to this day.
I would say that it is a consequence of polarization and redicalization on the ideas of the population, as they move fruther from the center to the right or left, the variety of parties which can exist decreases, also the management of the media on political matters does not help with polarization.
Yeah, I think it's happening in the entire western world at least, only that each country is at a different stage.
And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
Yes, it is happening in the West but if we take a look at the opposite part of the world, we can find what is going on in China and Russia. Dictatorships dressed up as democracies. One must be wonder if that is what the Republican party was trying to achieve (and perhaps continue to do so) since Trump became a politician.
Talking beyond the political betting, the consequences of that quality of politicians being ahead in the presidential run is quite scary, if you asked me.
Imagine betting money in favor of Trump, knowing you can pocket some money with the possible suffering of a nation, depending on whom you ask, of course.
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I agree, in many countries democracy has turned into a dictatorship of two parties. Here in Venezuela is also something which has happened in the past and even to this day.
I would say that it is a consequence of polarization and redicalization on the ideas of the population, as they move fruther from the center to the right or left, the variety of parties which can exist decreases, also the management of the media on political matters does not help with polarization.
I agree, in many countries democracy has turned into a dictatorship of two parties. Here in Venezuela is also something which has happened in the past and even to this day.
I would say that it is a consequence of polarization and redicalization on the ideas of the population, as they move fruther from the center to the right or left, the variety of parties which can exist decreases, also the management of the media on political matters does not help with polarization.
Yeah, I think it's happening in the entire western world at least, only that each country is at a different stage.
And when people say that something cannot happen in their country, it's good to remember that Argentina used to be in the top 10 of the wealthiest countries, and now it has an out of control inflation.
Well in Brazil case, the whole nation was screwed from the start, the one that won was an ex-convict, and the one who lost was the last president who had the flee the nation for the corruption he did. There wasn't really a good candidate, everyone just argued which one was worse... well that does mimic USA elections exactly.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
In most western democracies it's usually one side against the other, and the perceived difference gets larger every year. In reality democracy allows the ability to choose between a lot of different candidates but it has quickly collapsed into choosing one side or the other to kinda give the illusion of choice.
I wonder how it could be changed, but I think it's impossible at this point.
I agree, in many countries democracy has turned into a dictatorship of two parties. Here in Venezuela is also something which has happened in the past and even to this day.
I would say that it is a consequence of polarization and redicalization on the ideas of the population, as they move fruther from the center to the right or left, the variety of parties which can exist decreases, also the management of the media on political matters does not help with polarization.
Well in Brazil case, the whole nation was screwed from the start, the one that won was an ex-convict, and the one who lost was the last president who had the flee the nation for the corruption he did. There wasn't really a good candidate, everyone just argued which one was worse... well that does mimic USA elections exactly.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
In most western democracies it's usually one side against the other, and the perceived difference gets larger every year. In reality democracy allows the ability to choose between a lot of different candidates but it has quickly collapsed into choosing one side or the other to kinda give the illusion of choice.
I wonder how it could be changed, but I think it's impossible at this point.
Well in Brazil case, the whole nation was screwed from the start, the one that won was an ex-convict, and the one who lost was the last president who had the flee the nation for the corruption he did. There wasn't really a good candidate, everyone just argued which one was worse... well that does mimic USA elections exactly.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
One of the candidates is ex-convict who is still on trial and stole hundreds of millions in taxes instead of paying them and labeled "smart move" by voters some reason, because the same people who voted for him, ended up paying his share too and they are not aware of it, and the guy ended up cutting taxes even more to the rich friends of his when he elected, the other is an old guy who people are unsure about his mental health, could be getting too old and sick to rule. So, USA doesn't really have a proper elections neither.
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