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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 12, 2021, 04:16:30 PM

Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

Doing more than a single 'job' is like exploiting ourselves at its peak. It is also a matter of fact that doing business does not fit under anybody's appetite and needs patience to grow and bring that business ahead because overnight success stories are just white lies and like a plant needs time to become a tree, a business also needs time to grow and if a businessman is lucky, only then he gets hardworking people who stay with that business even in the worst times.

Investment isnt for everybody but how you would able to know if it doesnt work for you? You couldnt tell unless you do try and this is why people do make out investment even though they arent really that much sure.

We know the chances or probabilities when it comes to possible profits if you have done this right and its true that this isnt for everybody but doesnt
mean that you wouldnt give a try.

Its up to someone on how they would gonna take advantage of their finances on putting up on other ventures.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 12, 2021, 04:16:30 PM

Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

Doing more than a single 'job' is like exploiting ourselves at its peak. It is also a matter of fact that doing business does not fit under anybody's appetite and needs patience to grow and bring that business ahead because overnight success stories are just white lies and like a plant needs time to become a tree, a business also needs time to grow and if a businessman is lucky, only then he gets hardworking people who stay with that business even in the worst times.

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Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

Quote from: Jontokhan65 on November 09, 2021, 09:02:01 AM

everything is more expensive

Everything will be expensive cause the government shouldn't have printed any fiat currency this year.

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know this man and he will certainly change your view in life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki

I've been watching videos of him on youtube and it's kinda telling me that business is really good compared to jobs, we are just conditioned to study well so we can end up with a good job, but in reality, it does not give us financial freedom because only business can if handled properly.

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Quote from: tyz on November 12, 2021, 05:12:32 AM

You can also put it another way. If you take a normal job, you want to live a normal life. But in the very rarest of cases, you can become rich in the process.
If you want to make more out of your life and have the chance for a higher or even great prosperity, you have to start a business and become an entrepreneur. Of course, many do not make it and go broke, but the chance of prosperity is much greater than with an employee job.

It is also quite a risky move as well if you want to start. This means that if you are willing to take that risk, there is absolutely a true chance that you could end up with more money than a salary earner, it is definitely possible. However there is also a good chance that you could end up bankrupting as well, losing all of your money and you would be out of work and unemployed and have a huge debt as well.

I have tried it a few times, and each time it has failed so far, but since I work remotely that meant that I got to keep my job so I was lucky. Doesn't mean that everyone who starts a business will bankrupt, I am just not very good at it and I end up losing a lot of money because I am not good at it, but we do not know who will start a business neither with this advice, it could be someone like me, or it could be someone like Jeff Bezos, who knows?

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To be honest as someone who did study and school and sone famous universities even sone international and famous universities I can see all you can learn in the school as to how to become a normal and boring person who looks and begs for a job to buy food. Many entrepreneurs didn't even finish their schools and they are rich and famous at the same time. That's why in my own idea the key to becoming a successful businessman is having free readings instead of school.

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Life is like a dice, my outcome may favour me but when it your turn to roll it, they may not favour life. This is the same with been an entrepreneur and working as a job person.
I will pick business if I have the capital and environment that will favour my kind of business ideas, not some kind of place that my profit will be making a negative value to my sweat.
If I have a Job in well paid company, I will also but will later abandon the job if I save enough to start a business.

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No one is going to make you a manager in his business, just because you graduated with something relevant, many years are likely to pass, doing lesser jobs and being a simple employee, till you can gain a significant position in someone's business. On the other hand, building your own from scratch isn't that simple, nowadays, everything is online, and automated, you'll need to be persistent and most importantly, innovative to succeed, which will take quite a few years, if it ever happens.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on November 09, 2021, 09:06:35 AM

Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.

You can also put it another way. If you take a normal job, you want to live a normal life. But in the very rarest of cases, you can become rich in the process.
If you want to make more out of your life and have the chance for a higher or even great prosperity, you have to start a business and become an entrepreneur. Of course, many do not make it and go broke, but the chance of prosperity is much greater than with an employee job.

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Several times I made a business from agriculture, fisheries to a supplier of vehicle spare parts, but this has not been able to make me successful because business requires patience, when the shop is empty I can't wait and choose to try another business, and because I'm not focused it makes me lose money and now I focus on work and plan to do business again if economic conditions improve.

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Quote from: Wong Gendheng on November 11, 2021, 11:14:42 PM

I was in the restaurant business and it only lasted less than 6 months, especially when it was a pandemic, and now I'm more focused on work and something. someday will make a restaurant or garment business.

Unfortunately that your restaurant business crashed and that was because of covid-19 restrictions which is understandable people were not allowed to move around, restaurant business requires physical presence. Your restaurant business was not the only one that suffered, all others that requires physical patronage suffered and got shot down. Big companies too were affected and they downsized there labour force and directed working from home for few and this opened people's mind to working at home and seeing also the opportunities online. My suggestion therefore is you can look up some of these opportunities online and develop a business idea from it as alternative as you do your restaurant business. Diversification is better than putting yourself in just one line of business.

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For business, of course, there are many things that must be needed, besides capital, consumer analysis is something we must know, I was in the restaurant business and it only lasted less than 6 months, especially when it was a pandemic, and now I'm more focused on work and something. someday will make a restaurant or garment business.

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Quote from: Jontokhan65 on November 09, 2021, 09:02:01 AM

At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

When we finish our studies, we have a big hope to work in a good company with a good salary. But not all people can get that chance because they need to compete with the other candidates. The best thing that they can do is keep trying to search for the job but they also need to search what business can boom in the next cycle or will be needed every time.

So they will have two opportunities that can help them to make money and even if only one thing works good for them, they do not have to worry because if they still insist to search for another source of income, I am sure they will get that someday.

The key in this matter does not complain to about everything that you do and keep trying more and more because who knows, one of what you did will give you the answer to what you need to do it later.

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It's not even cool one having a job and have no plans to set up a business. Even if the job allowance is not Much , it is best to gather money for business even if it will take a long time. Having a business is the greatest investment. Working for someone the Job can be loose at anytime.

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They taught us everything in schools except how to get rich and how to get a job after graduating from university and completing your education. In developing and developed countries, you find it difficult to get a job with a good salary, I believe, because of the increase in the population, so people resorted to intermediaries and bribes in order to get A good job and there are those who are like me and turned to work online to earn a living, although the profits of the Internet are not large or permanent as a monthly salary, but it is certainly better than the available jobs that give you a small salary per month compared to your monthly effort.

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This is the mindset in society in general. We grew up to go to school and then get a good job, a high position, and also a high salary. especially if we succeed in becoming a civil servant (government), in my circle this becomes an extraordinary thing and is the target of many people.
But not for people who are actually fighting for business. They are actually considered unusual and underestimated.
Right now I'm personally still doing both.
become a worker and also start a business. My goal is to have a business that will be on autopilot. And I really want to be separated from my job (even though the hours are very few), but I can't because it's related to my profession.

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Quote from: Jontokhan65 on November 09, 2021, 09:02:01 AM

At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

Why not choose both?

You can maximize your time by doing these two things. You have a job whether it's high paying or average paying then after your shift, you go to the business that you're building. Just have someone that you whom trust to run the business while you're out.

And just go with the process of establishing it, once it's already good and stable, you can decide whether to stay on that job and keep going. Or, you will become full time on your business.

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It depends on your career or course taken up. If your taking business courses like entrepreneurship then I think your purpose and focus is to put up a business after you finish your schooling especially if your family is capable to help you put up a business. But if you finished taking up other courses, of course, you can apply a job base on your qualification. Even you are not a degree holder, you can still find a job base on your skill, talents, qualification and as long as you can do a work.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on November 11, 2021, 04:49:29 PM

Quote from: 2double0 on November 11, 2021, 03:56:31 PM

A lot of employers and great personalities were among those who were school or college dropouts and presently earning a lot more in a month than an average guy who completed his study and works for them could even think of, but still cannot earn during his entire life. Doing job is for those who want a salary, a paycheck they can wait for and get after a month. Doing business is for courageous men and women who think of the future of others too while taking people with them to fulfil the vision they have in their mind. Businessmen have the ability to sign those paychecks and give them to their employees while they earn it on a daily basis and take all the risks on them.

The mindset of ordinary students thinks about completing their studies and have a decent job, but inside
the business minded person, he thinks out of the box and keeps on finding ways not to have a decent job
but to be the owner of the business.

You can always choose your side according to how you see yourself. Opportunities are always near to those
people who think positively about aiming for a much secured financial wealth.

If you are not yet capable of managing your own business, you can always apply for a job and save funds to achieve your target. But let us admit, that not all people can venture into business because it depends on the motivation and passion of the person. Business is not for all. Whereas, a lot of people are just aiming to have a decent job to augment their needs. So this question is very arbitrary, we will have different answers here depending on the kind of personality you have.

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Quote from: 2double0 on November 11, 2021, 03:56:31 PM

A lot of employers and great personalities were among those who were school or college dropouts and presently earning a lot more in a month than an average guy who completed his study and works for them could even think of, but still cannot earn during his entire life. Doing job is for those who want a salary, a paycheck they can wait for and get after a month. Doing business is for courageous men and women who think of the future of others too while taking people with them to fulfil the vision they have in their mind. Businessmen have the ability to sign those paychecks and give them to their employees while they earn it on a daily basis and take all the risks on them.

The mindset of ordinary students thinks about completing their studies and have a decent job, but inside
the business minded person, he thinks out of the box and keeps on finding ways not to have a decent job
but to be the owner of the business.

You can always choose your side according to how you see yourself. Opportunities are always near to those
people who think positively about aiming for a much secured financial wealth.

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