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Topic: Who would you like on a Bitcoin Council that represented the BTC community? - page 4. (Read 6361 times)

donator
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Might I recommend we follow Heinlein's Moon is a Harsh Mistress? Here's a quote:

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I note one proposal to make this Congress a two-house body. Excellent — the more impediments to legislation the better. But, instead of following tradition, I suggest one house of legislators, another whose single duty is to repeal laws. Let the legislators pass laws only with a two-thirds majority... while the repealers are able to cancel any law through a mere one-third minority. Preposterous? Think about it. If a bill is so poor that it cannot command two-thirds of your consents, is it not likely that it would make a poor law? And if a law is disliked by as many as one-third is it not likely that you would be better off without it?

IMHO, it's hard to take any sort of "authority" seriously if they do not adopt this model. If the Bitcoin Foundation isn't going to adopt this model, then the Bitcoin Council, should. Two voting bodies, with nary a representative between.
legendary
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I nominate no one.  I want an anonymous bitcoin council to be created using multisignature transactions.  It will be sort of like kickstarter, but for the advancement of bitcoin.

Basically a site needs to be set up on Tor where people can look at proposals.  Then, people can vote with their money.  If enough money is there for a project idea then the transaction is executed and the funds delivered to the project.  Note that no one needs to be involved with the distribution of money because it's based on multisignature transactions.  That's the whole point of bitcoin.
legendary
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Hello!
Do you mean someone from the community (not from business) in the bitcoin foundation, or a whole new organization?
hero member
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This is sick.

Now we, the users, can choose between red and blue?

I can predict the next movement: What about a council of ancient and wise users to judge and arbitrate conflicts in the bitcoin world?

 Huh Huh Huh

It's not going to work. We just need to keep Bitcoin and its ecosystem the more decentralized and pseudonymous we can.

Well I agree, we do not want to be blue. However you might look at it a different way. Gavin and the like are setting themselves as the king, we should at least organize a Senate...

I would rather not have to do this but our options are not many.

LOL.

Yes, please make a senate.  When you find out that your senate can't make anyone do anything that they don't want to do, and neither can the foundation, will all of you stop bitching about the foundation?

Well if all the miners sign up Smiley

There should be unions where miners, base users, speculators, exchanges, and developers all set up their own foundations.
legendary
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Hello!
I nominate Atlas! We need someone who doesn't play by the rules, and is always on the edge to help make those tough decisions.
What about MNW, he doesn't play by anyone's rules, even his own!
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
I nominate Atlas! We need someone who doesn't play by the rules, and is always on the edge to help make those tough decisions.
legendary
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I don't understand why people are so fixated on the governments model of providing a service? Why do you want speak for people who didn't give you their consent to speak for them?


Why can't you just start a for profit service on a voluntary basis. If Bitcoin needs a face, have clients pay for it. If Bitcoin needs vetting businesses, have clients pay for it. If the dev team needs funding, have clients pay for it. And there's no need for a board of directors, or elections, or bylaws or anything like that. You can simply run a business that provides a desirable service for a certain price.


Maybe I get it. Maybe it's harder to get people to pay for something than simply asserting yourself to speak in their name whether they want it or not. Well guess what, harder doesn't make it bad or impossible and easier certainly doesn't make it safe and desirable.
vip
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This is sick.

Now we, the users, can choose between red and blue?

I can predict the next movement: What about a council of ancient and wise users to judge and arbitrate conflicts in the bitcoin world?

 Huh Huh Huh

It's not going to work. We just need to keep Bitcoin and its ecosystem the more decentralized and pseudonymous we can.

Well I agree, we do not want to be blue. However you might look at it a different way. Gavin and the like are setting themselves as the king, we should at least organize a Senate...

I would rather not have to do this but our options are not many.

LOL.

Yes, please make a senate.  When you find out that your senate can't make anyone do anything that they don't want to do, and neither can the foundation, will all of you stop bitching about the foundation?

Well if all the miners sign up Smiley
kjj
legendary
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This is sick.

Now we, the users, can choose between red and blue?

I can predict the next movement: What about a council of ancient and wise users to judge and arbitrate conflicts in the bitcoin world?

 Huh Huh Huh

It's not going to work. We just need to keep Bitcoin and its ecosystem the more decentralized and pseudonymous we can.

Well I agree, we do not want to be blue. However you might look at it a different way. Gavin and the like are setting themselves as the king, we should at least organize a Senate...

I would rather not have to do this but our options are not many.

LOL.

Yes, please make a senate.  When you find out that your senate can't make anyone do anything that they don't want to do, and neither can the foundation, will all of you stop bitching about the foundation?
legendary
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Monopoly is bad, oligopoly is less bad. It's simple.
hero member
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This is sick.

Now we, the users, can choose between red and blue?

I can predict the next movement: What about a council of ancient and wise users to judge and arbitrate conflicts in the bitcoin world?

 Huh Huh Huh

It's not going to work. We just need to keep Bitcoin and its ecosystem the more decentralized and pseudonymous we can.
sr. member
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Proof-of-Stake Blockchain Network
This idea disgusts me.
newbie
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legendary
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Newbie
Who would you like on a Bitcoin Council that represented the whole BTC community and it's spirit?

As we all know "The Bitcoin Foundation" is industry heavy and was created to pay tax free for the development of BTC. Now I think this foundation is fine however I think the name is a bit misleading as it clearly does not represent all of BTC and its ideals.

If there was a group of people that debated and made recommendations to pool operators, miners and industry who would you want to hear from, who would you trust?

Thanks.


I support this idea only to counterbalance "TBF". I nominate Theymos.
full member
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I don't know how this would be organized but have an idea.

We could have a place were anyone who wants can post a paper or an idea on issues and we can read them all and then each person can vote for what they want. This would clearly be non-binding and would more or less be like a think tank (or policy institute). We would just give ideas on current issues and they could be ignored or adapted. However with so many voices and so many votes I think the best ideas would float to the top.

Is anyone interested in organizing something like this?

Thanks.

Whereas Bitcoin Foundation derives its strengths from raising money in order to provide a development budget (among other noble goals), perhaps the strengths of a more community-focused Bitcoin Council would be those of the crowd --- of the bitcoin userbase en-masse. Perhaps an actual web page to gauge the opinion of the community on particular issues, in order to give a more concrete and visible measure.

So for example, if something controversial happens with the protocol development and an alternate fork is proposed, we could gauge the community's opinion so that a) the Bitcoin Foundation's view is hardly the only one, and b) we have something more press-worthy than a forum poll. This could apply to a wide range of issues, including the attitude towards the Bitcoin Foundation, and events that occur in its lifetime as it unfolds.
donator
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I second sgornick and Casascius.
legendary
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^^ what you are describing sounds very similar to a forum..  Grin
full member
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This sounds like a great idea.

+1
hero member
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sr. member
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