Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.
Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen . As the matter of fact Its like what is happening right now in some real games around the globe. Such sports because of the covid they decided to use a recorded cheers and screen with faces of some fans like video call. Lmao. Which is just to make the game more interesting and intense... So fans is the most powerful. If its not then why most in some sports in television has faces of fans and cheers? 
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This is a unified system and it is very naive to oppose one part of the system to another. Each part of the system that you have listed has its own interests and the current state of affairs reflects the balance of these interests. It is wrong to view the process of balancing these interests as a confrontation. If there are any contradictions, they are resolved through economic processes and a new balance comes that suits everyone.
The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.
While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what.It's similar to what happens in politics: who is the most powerful, the government or the people?
Many will say the people is the most powerful, because they choose the government, they are the lifeblood of the country and so on... But actually the government doesn't act accordingly to what the populations demands. Instead, the government has their own agenda, ignoring citizens' wishes without even complain if there will be complainments or not. And if they act this way without worries it's because they are the most powerful.
In sports it's the same thing. Fans = population and governments = clubs.
A clear example should be taken from the time of corona virus pandemic period, watching football match without the fans in the stadium was boring and repulsive, no body finds it interesting to go over television and watch football match again as before, I will be researching on the number of viewers before and after pandemic, let examine the statistics and find out whether the fans has more great impact than the club and players.
Agreed. In my local area, we had done some practice match with high security due to this pandemic. Its our local club and we do often play to highlight our club. Before this pandemic, there are many peoples who are enjoyed our practice match as well as young players too, we are missing them and so do they. We don't feel like we are playing to create recreation for others without audiences. The same thing can be for the big players who often play at the field for his supporters, club as well as their country. That's why I agreed with your last word. The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.
While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what. These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
That's my take on this too, I find it unnecessary and pretty scummy that we are to choose which one is important when in the end, all of them have their own roles to fill as @Cling18 has said, we need to stop with this kind of dividing people. Players are the ones that make the game interesting, the club is the representative and the fans are the pillar, as simple as that
The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.
I think that the statement given by many that fans are the ones that basically gives the sport its energy, is really true. I mean without the fans, the club will cease to exist for there would be no one who basically cares about the team and that their share of the action would be irrelevant. Also, sales through merchandise would plummet as fans will cease buying the merchandise and thus will not make any money for the team. Fans are the reason why sports continue to be viewed.
In short, these 3 groups are integral part of the ecosystem to make the sports alive and successful.
Without one of them, they can't achieve the success they want in this field.
People should not really make a poll on this as I don't think there is a need to do so.
Let us accept that all these 3 are vital to form a harmonious relationship in this industry.
Without one of them, they can't achieve the success they want in this field.
People should not really make a poll on this as I don't think there is a need to do so.
Let us accept that all these 3 are vital to form a harmonious relationship in this industry.
That's right. If even one component of this ecosystem is removed, the system ceases to function.
By the way, I would also add to this list the advertisers and sponsors who raise huge funds for the sporting world as well as the media, thanks to whose work we can follow sporting events from almost anywhere in the world. Sport brings people together irrespective of their political beliefs, place of residence or nationality.
These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
That's my take on this too, I find it unnecessary and pretty scummy that we are to choose which one is important when in the end, all of them have their own roles to fill as @Cling18 has said, we need to stop with this kind of dividing people. Players are the ones that make the game interesting, the club is the representative and the fans are the pillar, as simple as thatThese three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone.We cant just make out conclusion that fans are the only one needed as if they arent able to get some benefit or entertainment that they could get out of those teams
and leagues that had set out specific games for fans interest and entertainment times.So there's no really need for some comparison among these things
In short, these 3 groups are integral part of the ecosystem to make the sports alive and successful.
Without one of them, they can't achieve the success they want in this field.
People should not really make a poll on this as I don't think there is a need to do so.
Let us accept that all these 3 are vital to form a harmonious relationship in this industry.
WHO IS MORE POWERFUL 
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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..
?1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..
If there's a poll here the fans will be the winner of the poll, we are all fans here we are the one to pay the ticket, to support the team to watch them and pay per view, we are the one spending money for our favorite team and if a team did not give us what we want, we shift our allegiance to other team, what matters is the fan base, they can make or break a sports league, players and clubs should give what the fans wants.
These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone.We cant just make out conclusion that fans are the only one needed as if they arent able to get some benefit or entertainment that they could get out of those teams
and leagues that had set out specific games for fans interest and entertainment times.So there's no really need for some comparison among these things
These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone. These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
That's right, these three coexist because they have a certain role each of them to make the game and money's running. Imagine if one of these three is not working, do you think there's still a game that's worth for the hard work of each of them? I mean, if you want to go on a national level you have to give your best shot to be on the list of the best players.Fans and clubs can support you all the way to the end if you're giving your best to them since huge money evolves only when a strong team/player is worth it with their talent.
These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.
It is not only the fans who keep the club there, because at least there are other investors who make the club grow even bigger. I don't think it's just because the club's fans are growing, because how can a club develop without good management. Look at the other smaller clubs, basically the small clubs have fans too but because of the lack of investors who come and are not well managed, in the end the small club cannot grow bigger and will continue to be below.
Supporters and investors are also factors to grow the club, just how you illustrate your example, those small club also have fans but they are not growing unlike those big clubs that have good team behind.
They are good in advertising and promoting, having investors money to do things and attract more people to support the club, it's really a good advantage to anyone.
Good management and good support from the fans, perfectly combined to succeed.
It is not only the fans who keep the club there, because at least there are other investors who make the club grow even bigger. I don't think it's just because the club's fans are growing, because how can a club develop without good management. Look at the other smaller clubs, basically the small clubs have fans too but because of the lack of investors who come and are not well managed, in the end the small club cannot grow bigger and will continue to be below.
Sporting events are profit-driven, they pay their players, they need money to maintain everything within the sports and the fans are the ones who will pay the ticket the pay per views and buy the team merchandise, these teams do not spend their funds without thinking of something in return, so the fans are the boss, if there are no fans the league will cease to function.
So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.
It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.
Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.
SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.
If you look into a government structure, same kind of inter-relationship could be spotted out.It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.
Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.
SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.
So, there would be no surprises in my end on your conclusion of finalizing in favor of fans as a real owners.
Who are all spending their real money, they deserve to be the real owners. Clubs invest their own money but for actual business they again depending on fans and followers. So, it is a complexly connect cycle where talented people finds their fortune and fans find good entrainment and clubs make money by making the ends meet.
Basically, these three things (players, fans and clubs) are interconnected and have their own relationship.
However, in reality we can see that there are players who dominate the club and there are also clubs that dominate the players.
For example, Messi who dominates the Barcelona and Florentino Perez (Real Madrid) who dominates the players.
They are really connected to each other and this wont really exist if one part would really be absent or doesnt exist.Even though majority been talking here about However, in reality we can see that there are players who dominate the club and there are also clubs that dominate the players.
For example, Messi who dominates the Barcelona and Florentino Perez (Real Madrid) who dominates the players.
fans to be the most powerful but i do bit agree that they do have mutual benefits to each other or something that they could rely on.
They wont really be making out some revenue if one of those factors or components doesnt exist.
Yups, you're right ...
Fans make money, clubs generate players and players generate performance.
- The club will not earn money if there are no fans and players.
- Players will not make money if there are no clubs and fans.
- Fans do not get Entertainment if there are no clubs and players.
But my basic question is, do the fans have power when we talk about weak clubs who have little advantage from the fans? call it like the clubs in the area of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.
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