Who’s more powerful? The players, Fans or Clubs - page 5.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on April 21, 2021, 05:42:31 AM

I think that the fans are the most powerful in the end, because if they would not support their favorite clubs with the buying of tickets and merchandise would miss out on a lot of money. The next big income source for clubs are sponsors and the money they get from the TV-stations and it's the same here. If no fans would watch the games of the clubs no TV station would have any interest to air those matches and no sponsor would be willing to pay a single penny to be shown there.
So if you look at it now the fans are the ones with the lowest power because they simply watch from the outside but have no direct influence over their clubs but on the other hand they also are the most powerful in a way as the clubs probably wouldn't exist at all without fans.

It is true that fans are a very important element, but they are not the ones that have more power.

An example of this was Soccer. In the United States, football (known as soccer) was not very well known and had very few fans.
But, with a large financial investment, marketing and attracting famous players from Europe, they managed to grow and now have a good number of fans.
They started, practically without fans, but with the money invested they managed to grow and already have a number of fans that it pays to build specific stadiums for this sport.

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Quote from: Stevcummings on April 20, 2021, 03:45:18 PM

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh

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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

There are three challenging questions to answer, but the three questions are related to each other. The three have a strong bond, but here l have to choose one of the 3, one that is strong.

Good:
• Club: it can be said that it is an association with one goal or it can be specialized in branches or companies, investments, here are only classified as individuals with 10-100 members only.
• Player: means someone who has expertise / proficiency in his / her field, for example: sports etc.
Of course: the physical strength and speed of each player must be their individual capital.
• Fans: or supporters in the soul of each supporter have enthusiasm, fanaticism, records, team, strength, support, collective energy to move forward.
Tampa Fans of every game are useless and the result: so fans are the strongest among the OP questions.

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I think that the fans are the most powerful in the end, because if they would not support their favorite clubs with the buying of tickets and merchandise would miss out on a lot of money. The next big income source for clubs are sponsors and the money they get from the TV-stations and it's the same here. If no fans would watch the games of the clubs no TV station would have any interest to air those matches and no sponsor would be willing to pay a single penny to be shown there.
So if you look at it now the fans are the ones with the lowest power because they simply watch from the outside but have no direct influence over their clubs but on the other hand they also are the most powerful in a way as the clubs probably wouldn't exist at all without fans.

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Quote from: Stevcummings on April 20, 2021, 03:45:18 PM

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh

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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

^ Out of these 3 options, I never knew someone would find out!
Kidding aside, this actually applies to all sports whether it is a big one or small.
Fans are the gains of the business, if they won’t pay the platform to be entertained, the cash won’t flow properly. Clubs are almost included with the fans as they support the teams of the players, it is just that they are more invested with it compared to the fans who only watch and support their teams. But the ones who really benefit are the founders of the leagues, as they are highly compensated because of founding it and deciding to start the hype.

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Quote from: Stevcummings on April 20, 2021, 03:45:18 PM

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh

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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The most powerful is who has the most money!

Players will always exist, even if they are amateurs. Clubs can possibly exist when a group of players play against another group.
Fans may eventually emerge, with friends and colleagues, from these players, when they go to play with others.

But in the midst of all this, these players / clubs are currently going to reach professionals, big clubs and a large number of fans, if they are hired by these famous clubs. It takes money to do that.

And the money for clubs is no longer coming from the majority of fans, but from sponsors, television and advertising rights.
The number of fans can determine better or worse advertising contracts.

In turn, clubs with the most money get the best players, and are most likely to win. Whoever wins more has a greater chance of having more fans. Those who have more fans get better sponsorships. Better sponsorships, more money.

In short, who has the most money is the one who has the most power in sport. It may be sad, for those who like the game, but unfortunately that's how the current world of sport works.

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Quote from: Stevcummings on April 20, 2021, 03:45:18 PM

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh

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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

What's the reason for this comparisons ?

They are all Important in every Sports so why need to look for whos powerful?

All of them are powerful in their Own area in which make the game worth watching and Betting.

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The recent withdrawal of some EPL teams from the newly established Europa Super league after fans of those clubs kicked against it shows the importance of fans, many Chelsea football club fans protested against Chelsea involvement in ESL outside their stadium before their match against Brighton, pressure mounted by the fans culminated to the quick withdrawal, if not for Covid-19 restrictions majority of the fans would have boycotted matches involving those clubs

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Millions of supporters have been able to put this filthy Super-Leauge takeover at the door but this is not the end. It's a clear strategy by those teams because they want to test the ground to see how far can they go and this time they had to stop at the start.
This is how our life works in many field guys: do you remember what happened to the frog?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

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The most powerful as the pandemic showed are the fans.Games without them were so boring that when a game was shown in Tv the Tv created artificially the atmosphere of the fans,they offered background cheering to make the game more enjoyable to watch.

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Quote from: Stevcummings on April 20, 2021, 03:45:18 PM

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh

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1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

From microeconomic consumer's choice theory the fans (consumers) are the most powerful. In general they provide the financial basis for the clubs and the players. Also they are the consumers of advertisement, which also plays a great role when it comes to the question how to finance a club.

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Who's more powerful? There is none. It seems you've raised the wrong question.

The relationship between the three is more or less equal. It is a symbiotic relationship where one is benefiting from the other. Without the players, clubs are nothing and fans don't get what they want for entertainment. Without the fans, the clubs and players are useless. Without the clubs, players won't get discovered, reach the limelight, and so on and no events, leagues, tournaments are created.

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Like you've said fans are more powerful as they provide a lot of support to their teams but it's only to a certain extent because it could also backfire whenever the team is having a bit of struggle throughout the season. Sometimes you'll see some fans become toxic and put pressure on certain players that isn't doing so well.

On another sport like esports its the players that are more powerful because a lot of teams start from the bottom and once they reach the top they're eventually picked up by the bigger orgs and whenever there's a roster changes it feels like the captain/members of the team are usually behind those decisions.

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Yes, the fans are the one who makes everything successful associated with sports. Rather than through betting, the support is mainly through the viewership and following.

Clubs aren't benefited out of the fans, those are organization that profits through advertising and funds from corporate firms. To keep their name high, clubs hire players for high cost and give the sophistication. On the whole when you look what the fans get is nothing, whereas the clubs and players are the benefitting ones.

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Aren't they basically equal? Like there's an equilibrium that mas be maintained between the three ALWAYS. A club exists because of players, fans exist because of their players, and players group up due to clubs. Players earn profit for playing for the club, the club earns profit for advertising the players to its fans, and fans enjoy watching the players. Without one of these three, it'd basically be non-existent. Without a club, players wouldn't even be able to group up, practice, and play in official games. Without players, what the hell is a club for? And without fans, there'd basically be zero profit for the clubs, even if we consider competitions, the bulk of profits from there come from the audience afaik.

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There are some leagues that still have small number of fans especially if the sports is not that popular but despite of those numbers, without Fans sports will die easily because to run a sports league there must be a fans to generate money to support for the team clubs.

Its hard to measure the influence of every team, some club owners are doing everything to lure the fans, but seriously Players are just a players here who are working for the fans and for the clubs for their own benefit and for the love of sports.

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Quote from: Joca97 on April 20, 2021, 06:59:35 PM

The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

Of course, these three elements are the true meaning of football,Without these components, games and entertainment cannot be obtained.
And, the fans will be allowed to get angry and demand the club to retract its unwanted decisions,The fans are the official sponsors of football without whom the club management budget cannot be obtained.so the most powerful ones are the fans Wink

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They are right that the fans are still the ones that will make money for them. If it's for the fans, there will be no takers of their tickets and no sponsors will come to them because it's what they want, the exposure of these players and clubs get from the fans.
That's why some players who forget to respect fans are too quickly gone in their career and goes early out because the fans are boycotting them.

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Quote from: Goodluckmate.com on April 20, 2021, 05:42:33 PM

I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players.

If there's no demand then there would be no players and clubs would be existing because there would be no one to watch which would sell off those tickets and those merch and other
viable source that they could get from fans.

There's no point if they would make out games for nothing or they cant get any benefit since no fans would be watching out.In speaking with teams then they are the ones
who do bring out some quality entertainment and thrill which we can definitely say that theres need of mutual benefits to each other.

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The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

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It's the Fans that I think are the most powerful out of all three. Imagine being a very good content creator, on an established and well-known platform like Youtube, but still unable to rake in views because you don't have supporters/subscribers. That's how powerful the mass is compared to an individual or a corporation, they can do everything they can to rake in people, but if the fans say no, then they wouldn't have any choice.

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