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legendary
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...projection...21th century american...

Care to actually support any of your claims, or do you just prefer to throw buzzwords at me like a cudgel? It is rather convenient this method does not actually require you to understand anything you say except on a very superficial level.

P.S. It's 21st
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You forgot Dilma Rousseff (Brazil)
legendary
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ITT too many guys in here have been out of university for a bit too long.

One day at an average, current day math, physics or biology department would cure them of their adorably outdated misconceptions about "emotional, mother instinct-driven womenfolk".

These girls would wipe the floor with your inferior cortex before you had a chance to tip your fedora.

1. As far as I can tell no one here said women were stupid, just that they in general are poor leaders.

2. Of course women are doing well in school, the school system is designed with the female model as the default on every level. Women are outperforming boys and men in schools on EVERY LEVEL of the educational system, and outnumbering men in college, but I don't hear anyone complaining and screaming about how boys and men are being left behind. On the contrary feminists are still crying about how they are being left behind.

That's the thing about feminism, it only works one way. One set of standards for men, another set of standards for women. This is not an equality movement, it is a supremacy movement. Since men and boys are being treated as disposable tools and future violent rapists, is it any surprise that they are not performing well in the educational system that disenfranchises them?

The War Against Boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOTj9NDv80

Cant stop rolling on the floor laughing.

21th century american. No wonder you people like trump. Cheesy
legendary
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Read my post above. Not that tough. Women tend to be collectivists as a matter of evolutionary biology. Collectivists destroy society.

Give me a break on the altering of what you said was on my cellphone at the time and was going off memory.Its a real pain to quote, bold and even type.

Religious comment was my attempt at saying the topic is not easy to peg down unless you where religious like a few people in the thread. I know you are not religious from reading other threads.

Actually, you were right I did say that, but I was looking in the wrong place for it (my op). However that still doesn't prove your point based only on your interpretations of my statement. Your post said:

...Be a challenge to peg the issue down.

... as if it was a nearly impossible task. It's not. My response was directed at the part of you conditioned by feminists and collectivists that make you BELIEVE this is a seriously complicated subject, when in reality it is staring your right in the face but you refuse to look at it because it might be "sexist" to examine reality in public. This doesn't have anything to do with your level of intelligence, it has to do with your conditioning by society to never critically examine the behaviors of women. You interpreted it as a dig at your intelligence, but that's all it was, your interpretation. So in the future if you want to criticize my words, try criticizing what they ACTUALLY say, not what you "interpret" them to say.

Also, I noticed you didn't bother replying to any of those other points and jumped right for the most inconsequential thing. Perhaps I hit the nail on the head?

I hope it is not too hard to understand in the end it is wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
legendary
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ITT too many guys in here have been out of university for a bit too long.

One day at an average, current day math, physics or biology department would cure them of their adorably outdated misconceptions about "emotional, mother instinct-driven womenfolk".

These girls would wipe the floor with your inferior cortex before you had a chance to tip your fedora.

1. As far as I can tell no one here said women were stupid, just that they in general are poor leaders.

2. Of course women are doing well in school, the school system is designed with the female model as the default on every level. Women are outperforming boys and men in schools on EVERY LEVEL of the educational system, and outnumbering men in college, but I don't hear anyone complaining and screaming about how boys and men are being left behind. On the contrary feminists are still crying about how they are being left behind.

That's the thing about feminism, it only works one way. One set of standards for men, another set of standards for women. This is not an equality movement, it is a supremacy movement. Since men and boys are being treated as disposable tools and future violent rapists, is it any surprise that they are not performing well in the educational system that disenfranchises them?

The War Against Boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOTj9NDv80
legendary
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Read my post above. Not that tough. Women tend to be collectivists as a matter of evolutionary biology. Collectivists destroy society.

Give me a break on the altering of what you said was on my cellphone at the time and was going off memory.Its a real pain to quote, bold and even type.

Religious comment was my attempt at saying the topic is not easy to peg down unless you where religious like a few people in the thread. I know you are not religious from reading other threads.

Actually, you were right I did say that, but I was looking in the wrong place for it (my op). However that still doesn't prove your point based only on your interpretations of my statement. Your post said:

...Be a challenge to peg the issue down.

... as if it was a nearly impossible task. It's not. My response was directed at the part of you conditioned by feminists and collectivists that make you BELIEVE this is a seriously complicated subject, when in reality it is staring your right in the face but you refuse to look at it because it might be "sexist" to examine reality in public. This doesn't have anything to do with your level of intelligence, it has to do with your conditioning by society to never critically examine the behaviors of women. You interpreted it as a dig at your intelligence, but that's all it was, your interpretation. So in the future if you want to criticize my words, try criticizing what they ACTUALLY say, not what you "interpret" them to say.

Also, I noticed you didn't bother replying to any of those other points and jumped right for the most inconsequential thing. Perhaps I hit the nail on the head?
legendary
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ITT too many guys in here have been out of university for a bit too long.

One day at an average, current day math, physics or biology department would cure them of their adorably outdated misconceptions about "emotional, mother instinct-driven womenfolk".

These girls would wipe the floor with your inferior cortex before you had a chance to tip your fedora.
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Read my post above. Not that tough. Women tend to be collectivists as a matter of evolutionary biology. Collectivists destroy society.

Give me a break on the altering of what you said was on my cellphone at the time and was going off memory.Its a real pain to quote, bold and even type.

Religious comment was my attempt at saying the topic is not easy to peg down unless you where religious like a few people in the thread. I know you are not religious from reading other threads.

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Actually, there are only bad leaders. Why? Because they die. If their leadership themes continue because of them, only then have they had some semblance of good leadership.

The only leadership that is good is the one that will last forever. The only way this happens is through the leadership expressed by the words of the Bible... Jesus-salvation leadership.

Love God with all your heart, and your neighbor as yourself, and believe that you will be saved by the work that Jesus did on the cross, and His resurrection. This is the only leadership that will last.

Cool
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My bad missed the part about the topic being closed once Tecshare addresses the topic. Such arrogance can not be trifled with.

Excuse you? You said the issue would be "hard to peg down", I referred you to my previous comment giving my take on the topic, and instead of bothering to respond to it you call me arrogant. Some one is on the rag.

So you are pissed because you feel like no one read what you had to say, you know how often I post and you and another account keep posting like no one said anything! Relax, I read it and had nothing to say because I sometimes like to see if people agree or watch posts develop before reflecting on them.
We do not have similar minds so I tend to watch who else agrees. Sometimes I reply sometimes I dont.
The post I replied to was short and easy to chew through. Sometimes I need to let your posts marinate to see if I do agree.
Do not think you pegged it down because you are coming at from a male stance, if more women where here we might get sonewhere. I have to many biases to think about this clearly enough.
Not religious so I do not look down on women in the way a few posters are here. Its not easy for me to chop it up to women being engrained to act a set way.
Hard to peg.

As for the arrogance, you do come at conversations like you are right and choose words that reflect this.
Example "Its not that tough"!
Implying it was easy for you and people that do not naturally come to the same conclusion are lesser in intelligence. Intentional or not this is how I perceive your posts sometimes. This does not mean I disagree with you most the time either.

No, I am more agitated with your accusations of arrogance because I DARED suggest you read my post, because everyone knows every user of this forum bothers to read all the previous posts before making their own  Roll Eyes

Also who said I was religious? I cited evolution several times as reasoning for women not being great leaders. Religious folk tend to not be too fond of evolutionary theory. Why is it that we need women to tell us what reality is? Does every discussion about women require a female moderator to make sure the little boys don't say anything the women would disapprove of? You really think they would admit to being poor leaders if it were true? Please. Also pointing out a particular weakness of women in general is not "looking down on them". You are stuck in the feminist delusion that we are all the same, and that any critical examination of the behavior of women is sexist. That is complete and utter horse shit that denies us all our individuality, as well as a realistic perspective on social dynamics. A lot of what you are saying comes directly from "critical theory", which is just Marxism wrapped in a paper thin veil of "social science" (ie horse shit designed to push collectivism).

 I come at conversations like I have spent a fuck of a lot more time studying these topics than most people, so maybe, just maybe I do know what I am talking about. If I don't I tend not to say much if anything. In the future I will try harder to pretend like I don't spend a lot of time educating myself so you don't feel so inadequate and therefore feel the need to label me as arrogant.

"Its not that tough"

What the fuck is this? Where did I say this? You don't get to interpret my words for me then expect me to defend them as if they were my own, sorry.
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My bad missed the part about the topic being closed once Tecshare addresses the topic. Such arrogance can not be trifled with.

Excuse you? You said the issue would be "hard to peg down", I referred you to my previous comment giving my take on the topic, and instead of bothering to respond to it you call me arrogant. Some one is on the rag.

So you are pissed because you feel like no one read what you had to say, you know how often I post and you and another account keep posting like no one said anything! Relax, I read it and had nothing to say because I sometimes like to see if people agree or watch posts develop before reflecting on them.
We do not have similar minds so I tend to watch who else agrees. Sometimes I reply sometimes I dont.
The post I replied to was short and easy to chew through. Sometimes I need to let your posts marinate to see if I do agree.
Do not think you pegged it down because you are coming at from a male stance, if more women where here we might get sonewhere. I have to many biases to think about this clearly enough.
Not religious so I do not look down on women in the way a few posters are here. Its not easy for me to chop it up to women being engrained to act a set way.
Hard to peg.

As for the arrogance, you do come at conversations like you are right and choose words that reflect this.
Example "Its not that tough"!
Implying it was easy for you and people that do not naturally come to the same conclusion are lesser in intelligence. Intentional or not this is how I perceive your posts sometimes. This does not mean I disagree with you most the time either.
legendary
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My bad missed the part about the topic being closed once Tecshare addresses the topic. Such arrogance can not be trifled with.

Excuse you? You said the issue would be "hard to peg down", I referred you to my previous comment giving my take on the topic, and instead of bothering to respond to it you call me arrogant. Some one is on the rag.
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Almost all of them are shit regardless of gender. I can't say I've been any more disappointed by women than men. The problem is the type of person such a job attracts and the fact that even if they get in it's all stuck in aspic anyway. That's a societal problem. Not gender.

I was about to point this out as well lol.

Despite whatever gender everything is garbage.. and the comment with women leaders is just sexist. Im sure both will always have a different way of finishing the job in their own different view, but will intially get the same job done.

The problem goes way beyond like mentioned.
JAW
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In history most of all great leaders are men. women just recently rulling in the name of sex equality. But women has no talents for ruling than they do with socializing.
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Almost all of them are shit regardless of gender. I can't say I've been any more disappointed by women than men. The problem is the type of person such a job attracts and the fact that even if they get in it's all stuck in aspic anyway. That's a societal problem. Not gender.
Das
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The argument can easily be be re-framed, given the vast number of male leaders we have had throughout history how many would you consider good?

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Very good point here!!

World war I and II were not started by women, infact all the wars that claimed billions of lives down the history to mankind have been started by men. That does not stop people from re-electing men into office. A woman does her best in political office and the insecure men start pointing fingers, it's this same insecurity that has claimed billions of lives down the history of mankind.

SO all you insecure men need to deal with your demons before you end up blowing the whole world with the atomic bombs one of you invented!



I totally agree with that !#@!!!  Cheesy Grin Smiley Wink Grin
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The argument can easily be be re-framed, given the vast number of male leaders we have had throughout history how many would you consider good?

 Grin

 Grin

Very good point here!!

World war I and II were not started by women, infact all the wars that claimed billions of lives down the history to mankind have been started by men. That does not stop people from re-electing men into office. A woman does her best in political office and the insecure men start pointing fingers, it's this same insecurity that has claimed billions of lives down the history of mankind.

SO all you insecure men need to deal with your demons before you end up blowing the whole world with the atomic bombs one of you invented!
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My bad missed the part about the topic being closed once Tecshare addresses the topic. Such arrogance can not be trifled with.
legendary
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because women have no guts for leadership.

Do not think this is the issue, think its more how we perceive women roles of power. Every leader needs strong support and some men will resent women in higher positions no matter what.
So religious expectations for women, societies gender roles or something deeper? Be a challenge to peg the issue down.

Read my post above. Not that tough. Women tend to be collectivists as a matter of evolutionary biology. Collectivists destroy society.
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