Why are rich countries rich and poor countries poor? - page 18.

Mometaskers

hero member

Activity: 1764

Merit: 584

Since you already mentioned Guns, Germs and Steel, I also suggest reading Why the West Rules - For Now, by Ian Morris and Why Nations Fail, by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson. While you're at it, you might also want to pick out The Dictator's Handbook by Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith.

It's really a combination of factors, though I really believe the environment played a huge part since after all, it influence whatever culture is born in that place.

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

I believe I heard some people point out that without the negative effects of the Black Death, Europe today would be like sub-Saharan Africa. It did certainly have certain undeniable effects. It depopulated large tracts of land, forcing feudal lords to raise wages or make concessions, eventually spelling the end for the feudal system, etc.

Quote from: BADecker on May 15, 2017, 09:38:10 AM

I have an old 1966 Webster's College Dictionary stuck away somewhere... one of those fat ones that is, like, 3 or 4 inches thick. If you look up the International Monetary Fund in that dictionary, you will find something like 150 countries that are members of the IMF. The strongest member countries are the wealthiest.

You will also find about 20 nations of the world that refused IMF membership. They are the poorest countries of the world, with plague, disease, famine, pestilence, and war destroying them. Note that things have changed since 19966, so you won't find the same member and non-member nations in the IMF.

What does that all mean?

Cool

Globalist conspiracy! How dare they!

darkangel11

legendary

Activity: 2478

Merit: 1360

Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Let's argue for a bit. Do you believe a country is rich, because its citizens are brave and smart?
Compare some of the richest Arab countries like UAE and Kuwait to Some poorer ones like Algeria. All of them are in the Arab league, all of them have vast natural resources mainly oil and natural gas, all are inhabited by people of similar culture and religion. Does the difference in wealth really come from the weakness of the people?
Is that why in one of them people drive ferraris and in the other they rarely drive cars at all?

saddampbuh

legendary

Activity: 1078

Merit: 1014

Quote from: bitkilo on May 14, 2017, 08:19:33 PM

Some of these poor afican countries like Sudan for instance have massive wealth in mineral assets like gold, diamonds, oil, timber ect but the western countries always stiff them on the deals and thats only if the leaders of these countries haven't stolen everything for themselfs and fled the country to live in luxury exile somewhere else.

because they were putting their mineral assets to such good use before westerners arrived there

cherokee909

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 15, 2017, 11:29:15 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 15, 2017, 10:50:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

Yes, I don't understand why people have dozens of children if they don't have conditions to give a decent life to them, it's a bit of ignorance and fear to don't have who take care of them when they reach to the oldest age. If poor people had only one or two children they could have a more confortable life and give more attention to their children, educating them, teaching them, playing with them...

Most of the poor countries tend to be ultra-religious. And in these nations, family planning is very unpopular, due to the opposition from the clerics. Take the example of Muslim nations such as Somalia, Sudan.etc and Christian nations such as the Philippines. Family planning measures are not encouraged there, if not banned outright.

Planning measures of fertility is the interests of the state. From the point of view of the officials the more people the more taxes on business is also interested in this. The more people the cheaper labor. For religion, the more people the more potential donors.

anubisath

newbie

Activity: 16

Merit: 0

Hah, many times it's because larger(often but not always richer) countries had colonized them and stolen their resources, people etc.

You can take a look at central and eastern European countries too. They'd have probably been on par with western Europe had it not been first for the Ottomans and more importantly later the Communists. Many of these countries were among the richer in Europe right before WWII, but then they remained behind the iron curtain and well you know the rest...

bryant.coleman

legendary

Activity: 3766

Merit: 1217

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 15, 2017, 10:50:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

Yes, I don't understand why people have dozens of children if they don't have conditions to give a decent life to them, it's a bit of ignorance and fear to don't have who take care of them when they reach to the oldest age. If poor people had only one or two children they could have a more confortable life and give more attention to their children, educating them, teaching them, playing with them...

Most of the poor countries tend to be ultra-religious. And in these nations, family planning is very unpopular, due to the opposition from the clerics. Take the example of Muslim nations such as Somalia, Sudan.etc and Christian nations such as the Philippines. Family planning measures are not encouraged there, if not banned outright.

cherokee909

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

And maybe it doesn't need to. Why would he Adapt to society if he lives in his own world and not face problems which are known to us all. We do not repair our car ourselves. And it is normal.

richsoon

member

Activity: 118

Merit: 100

Quote from: Palmerson on May 15, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

People are too much emphasis on IQ. I don't believe in the effectiveness of a universal approach to the human mind. I have a friend who is a very good scientist, but he is certainly not adapted to normal life. He is God in science and child on the street.

IQ tests you only on how well u perform IQ tests which measures only a specific form of intelligence. In reality intelligence can manifest itself in many forms, such as how well u adapt to social situations. In that sense you could say your scientist friend is smart in his field but doesn't possess the type of intelligence to adapt to social life.

Wa(t)ch_night()

sr. member

Activity: 336

Merit: 250

Play2Live presale starts on 25th January

Quote from: killgald on May 15, 2017, 11:00:47 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 15, 2017, 10:50:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

Yes, I don't understand why people have dozens of children if they don't have conditions to give a decent life to them, it's a bit of ignorance and fear to don't have who take care of them when they reach to the oldest age. If poor people had only one or two children they could have a more confortable life and give more attention to their children, educating them, teaching them, playing with them...

Well thats the main problem in a poor country, the over population is the common factor in this kind of country, this social problems happens because the goberments dont used the resources to improved education in the poorest sectors of the country, they dont even know how a baby come to the world.

It seems to me that it's long to talk about why a poor country is poor, it is not needed, because everything depends first of all on the government and on the level of corruption in the country.

matchi2011

sr. member

Activity: 1456

Merit: 267

Buy $BGL before it's too late!

It's always been like that ever since. The rich always has a way to remain that way by taking advantage of the poor. Sometimes, poor countries remain poor because they have no resources or ways to reach out to the market. Or sometimes, the people in control in these poor countries wanted it to remain poor so that they can remain in power.

killgald

full member

Activity: 244

Merit: 100

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 15, 2017, 10:50:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

Yes, I don't understand why people have dozens of children if they don't have conditions to give a decent life to them, it's a bit of ignorance and fear to don't have who take care of them when they reach to the oldest age. If poor people had only one or two children they could have a more confortable life and give more attention to their children, educating them, teaching them, playing with them...

Well thats the main problem in a poor country, the over population is the common factor in this kind of country, this social problems happens because the goberments dont used the resources to improved education in the poorest sectors of the country, they dont even know how a baby come to the world.

mrcash02

hero member

Activity: 1190

Merit: 525

CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: mrcash02 on May 14, 2017, 10:39:54 PM

Easy to answer: Because the rich countrie's people are brave, have intelect and values to choose their leaders and will fight for their rights if necessary.

Poor countries have weak people, acting like mercenaries for any money, unable to think bigger, to think for the common convenience (thinking only in themselves). This results in corrupt leaders, dirty cities, misery and chaos.

Another important factor is demographics. In rich countries like Japan and Germany, the couples normally have only one or two children. But in the developed world (especially South Asia and Sub Saharan Africa), they produce children in the dozens.

Yes, I don't understand why people have dozens of children if they don't have conditions to give a decent life to them, it's a bit of ignorance and fear to don't have who take care of them when they reach to the oldest age. If poor people had only one or two children they could have a more confortable life and give more attention to their children, educating them, teaching them, playing with them...

xhomerx10

legendary

Activity: 3808

Merit: 7912

Quote from: craked5 on May 15, 2017, 03:49:22 AM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 14, 2017, 08:44:34 PM

*image redacted for brevity

*National IQ per country - estimates by Lynn and Vanhanen 2006

I don't imagine one need look too much further for an explanation.

Yeah but that's why your IQ is probably around 60 even though the average one is higher xD

Only an idiot could believe it's a reason and not a consequence.

Best answer I could come up with. Sorry it took so long, I had to get my dog to read your post to me.

Daniel91

legendary

Activity: 3374

Merit: 1824

It's not easy to answer such question.
We have to research history first.
The invention of wheels and iron were the first major drivers of the development of society, and after that gunpowder, printing, and industrialization of society.
Because of it, Europeans had a much more developed society than any country in Africa, Asia and both Americas.
Europeans dominated the world for centuries, economically exploited the colonies and imported cheap raw materials and labor work but technology they didn't share with colonies.
Africa, for example, got political independence very late, in the 20th century.
Economically, they still depend on former masters from Europe and here is main reason for all differences in development.

BADecker

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 1373

I have an old 1966 Webster's College Dictionary stuck away somewhere... one of those fat ones that is, like, 3 or 4 inches thick. If you look up the International Monetary Fund in that dictionary, you will find something like 150 countries that are members of the IMF. The strongest member countries are the wealthiest.

You will also find about 20 nations of the world that refused IMF membership. They are the poorest countries of the world, with plague, disease, famine, pestilence, and war destroying them. Note that things have changed since 19966, so you won't find the same member and non-member nations in the IMF.

What does that all mean?

Cool

killgald

full member

Activity: 244

Merit: 100

Quote from: Idrisu on May 15, 2017, 09:25:42 AM

Quote from: Bitmedrano040117 on May 15, 2017, 01:09:08 AM

I do believed that that the country who is rich are those who are not greed or corrupt in the government. Because once there is a corrupt officials inside the government expect that there is a disadvantage to be happen in the end, and the result the country will suffer, but once the officials are not greed or corrupt expect, that nation will be progress for sure in the near future.

I think is all about the mind and greed of most of the poor countries' leaders. Corruptions is the the greatest problem of human race. African has The most blessed solid mineral deposits by nature but the are the most poorest countries. Their cannot blame it on the western countries! They are poor because of their mind and the way their think.

Like he say the mind and greed of most of the poor countries leaders has the blame, they lack of brain and egoism plus the corruction that drown this countries will never let them overpass their situation, and it doesnt need an amazing oil reserved or mineral mines, look the example of dubai with little amount of oil they built the most expensive city in the world and in the middle of the dessert.

Idrisu

sr. member

Activity: 924

Merit: 260

Quote from: Bitmedrano040117 on May 15, 2017, 01:09:08 AM

I do believed that that the country who is rich are those who are not greed or corrupt in the government. Because once there is a corrupt officials inside the government expect that there is a disadvantage to be happen in the end, and the result the country will suffer, but once the officials are not greed or corrupt expect, that nation will be progress for sure in the near future.

I think is all about the mind and greed of most of the poor countries' leaders. Corruptions is the the greatest problem of human race. African has The most blessed solid mineral deposits by nature but the are the most poorest countries. Their cannot blame it on the western countries! They are poor because of their mind and the way their think.

GlassMaster

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 100

Quote from: ?? on ??

Rich countries are rich because they trust in god and balance their budgets.

Poor countries are poor because they trust their native or natural instincts of reward/fear thus they reject god, thus they lose god, thus they fall from grace.

God is free will. You can print as much money as you like only if you turn the other cheek when your opponents throw stones. Likewise you can be as vengeful as you please only if you remain sin-free. Justice is woven into gods design.

Faith in God will not help make a fortune, there are many believing beggars. We need to take our destiny into our own hands and take care of the proper functioning of the country.

matuson

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 255

The current economic situation, third world countries cannot compete with developed countries. In sports there is the concept of odds. Now the world economy is now a handicap in the countries number 1 and they will never allow development and creating competition for themselves in third world countries.

ScriptYoYo

full member

Activity: 159

Merit: 100

Quote from: Palmerson on May 15, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

People are too much emphasis on IQ. I don't believe in the effectiveness of a universal approach to the human mind. I have a friend who is a very good scientist, but he is certainly not adapted to normal life. He is God in science and child on the street.

Yes, there must be a balance in all spheres for a sense of a fulfilling life. I also have such an acquaintance and he is not able to take serious relationships in the street despite his age.

Topic: Why are rich countries rich and poor countries poor? - page 18. (Read 16644 times)