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legendary
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born once atheist
January 11, 2017, 09:23:27 PM
oh ffs!!

you frikkin live on this thread or what ? get a fucking life dude!
legendary
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January 11, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
this thread in a nutshell....
BADecker...bla bla bla bla science proves God exists bla bla bla
evidence for God everywhere bla bla bla
Stalin, Hitler, Mao evil atheists bla bla bla bla
bible nonesense bla bla bla only a theory bla bla bla
i love spouting religious quackery in a thread i own bla bla bla

everyone else who arent deluded... "yeah ok, whatever dude...."





"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in the world."

Bernard Shaw, George,
 Irish-born English playwright (1856-1950).....


"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit,
he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor




Thanks for your heads up, sirazimuth.

Since you can't refute, rebut, or even understand the science at -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

- every time you badmouth it only helps to strengthen its position.

So, thanks again for helping to prove that God exists.

Cool

my pleasure !
anything to strengthen you delusional belief in your magic supernatural sky fairy.
Your posts (the few i can actually plow thru anyway ) always give me a good laugh.
thanx my friend!

so btw, hows that flat earth thing going for ya bud?
havnt checked that thread in awhile.

btw
you sure  are good at linking to yourself. im impressed
 

As I said to af_newbie...

"According to what exists in the universe, and our lack of knowledge whatsoever of how it came into being, God is the best and most logical answer.

"You have no idea what scientific proof entails. How can we tell? Because you haven't been able to go beyond the beginning of disproving the proof of God proffered. What is the beginning? The beginning is to simply say that there is no proof. Come on. You can do more than that, can't you?

"Since cause and effect, complex universe, and entropy are standard scientific understandings all over the world, perhaps you should stop proving that you don't know much about scientific proof, and start learning about it so that you can rebut the science. If you don't, all you will be proving is your ignorance.

"However, proving your ignorance is okay. At least you are helping to prove that God exists by proving your ignorance. But proving God in this way will not be beneficial for you in the end."


So, talk, talk, talk. Come on! Let's see something that rebuts the science. What? Can't find anything? Thanks for helping to prove that God exists.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
January 11, 2017, 08:59:33 PM
this thread in a nutshell....
BADecker...bla bla bla bla science proves God exists bla bla bla
evidence for God everywhere bla bla bla
Stalin, Hitler, Mao evil atheists bla bla bla bla
bible nonesense bla bla bla only a theory bla bla bla
i love spouting religious quackery in a thread i own bla bla bla

everyone else who arent deluded... "yeah ok, whatever dude...."





"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in the world."

Bernard Shaw, George,
 Irish-born English playwright (1856-1950).....


"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit,
he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor




Thanks for your heads up, sirazimuth.

Since you can't refute, rebut, or even understand the science at -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

- every time you badmouth it only helps to strengthen its position.

So, thanks again for helping to prove that God exists.

Cool

my pleasure !
anything to strengthen you delusional belief in your magic supernatural sky fairy.
Your posts (the few i can actually plow thru anyway ) always give me a good laugh.
thanx my friend!

so btw, hows that flat earth thing going for ya bud?
havnt checked that thread in awhile.

btw
you sure  are good at linking to yourself. im impressed. try quoting someone else besides yourself who supports your delusional position



 
What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell.
-- H L Mencken, quoted from Not Church




member
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I thought hurricane season was over!!!
January 08, 2017, 11:33:19 PM
this thread in a nutshell....
BADecker...bla bla bla bla science proves God exists bla bla bla
evidence for God everywhere bla bla bla
Stalin, Hitler, Mao evil atheists bla bla bla bla
bible nonesense bla bla bla only a theory bla bla bla
i love spouting religious quackery in a thread i own bla bla bla

everyone else who arent deluded... "yeah ok, whatever dude...."





"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in the world."

Bernard Shaw, George,
 Irish-born English playwright (1856-1950).....


"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit,
he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor




Thanks for your heads up, sirazimuth.

Since you can't refute, rebut, or even understand the science at -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

- every time you badmouth it only helps to strengthen its position.

So, thanks again for helping to prove that God exists.

Cool
Amen to that
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 08, 2017, 11:15:58 PM
this thread in a nutshell....
BADecker...bla bla bla bla science proves God exists bla bla bla
evidence for God everywhere bla bla bla
Stalin, Hitler, Mao evil atheists bla bla bla bla
bible nonesense bla bla bla only a theory bla bla bla
i love spouting religious quackery in a thread i own bla bla bla

everyone else who arent deluded... "yeah ok, whatever dude...."





"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in the world."

Bernard Shaw, George,
 Irish-born English playwright (1856-1950).....


"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit,
he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor




Thanks for your heads up, sirazimuth.

Since you can't refute, rebut, or even understand the science at -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

- every time you badmouth it only helps to strengthen its position.

So, thanks again for helping to prove that God exists.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
January 08, 2017, 08:35:38 PM
this thread in a nutshell....
BADecker...bla bla bla bla science proves God exists bla bla bla
evidence for God everywhere bla bla bla
Stalin, Hitler, Mao evil atheists bla bla bla bla
bible nonesense bla bla bla only a theory bla bla bla
i love spouting religious quackery in a thread i own bla bla bla

everyone else who arent deluded... "yeah ok, whatever dude...."





"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in the world."

Bernard Shaw, George,
 Irish-born English playwright (1856-1950).....


"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit,
he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor

sr. member
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It's personal
January 02, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
No, I don't hate religion. I consider it to be a core part of the human condition, similar to language. In other words, it's a tool every human civilization has used since there have been human civilizations (as far as we know). And just as language was instrumental in helping Hitler murder six-million Jews and allowing Shakespeare to craft poetry and drama of staggering beauty, religion has been used as an excuse for bloody crusades, while it also gives solace to billions of people all over the world. It has caused intense suffering and created sublime joy.


An individual person, once enlightened, has to make a choice, now hopefully, basing that choice on sound reasoning, free from the illogical non-questionable discriminating law that is religion.
sr. member
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January 02, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
No, I don't hate religion. I consider it to be a core part of the human condition, similar to language. In other words, it's a tool every human civilization has used since there have been human civilizations (as far as we know). And just as language was instrumental in helping Hitler murder six-million Jews and allowing Shakespeare to craft poetry and drama of staggering beauty, religion has been used as an excuse for bloody crusades, while it also gives solace to billions of people all over the world. It has caused intense suffering and created sublime joy.
newbie
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January 02, 2017, 01:21:31 PM
i think most atheist hate when we pronunce the name of God
legendary
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January 02, 2017, 01:39:41 AM

Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out.

Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity.

Cool

Wasn't it the gold rush? So they went to america because of christianity because christianity was already a main religion in Europe.. .wat

Btw you still didn't name one country.

All right. Play your game of writing nonsense.    Cool

Yes, I'm the one who's writing nonsense... I think we can all agree with that.

Hey, man. Don't pick on yourself like that. Just because you write a little nonsense here and there, doesn't mean that you do it in general. Don't degrade yourself like that, by saying you write nonsense.

Cool
hero member
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Need some spare btc for a new PC
January 02, 2017, 01:25:53 AM

Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out.

Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity.

Cool

Wasn't it the gold rush? So they went to america because of christianity because christianity was already a main religion in Europe.. .wat

Btw you still didn't name one country.

All right. Play your game of writing nonsense.    Cool

Yes, I'm the one who's writing nonsense... I think we can all agree with that.
hero member
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Need some spare btc for a new PC
January 02, 2017, 01:24:54 AM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.




The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.




+1

I do not think BSDecker types studied the history of their cult.  Most of Europe was 'Christianized' by force, sword and fire.
Never mind Africa and Americas.  How many native Indians (North and South American) had to die for the rest of them to accept Christ :-)

What ISIS is doing is nothing comparing to what the Christian crusaders did to native populations around the world.


BADecker, you want to learn what your Christian comrades did to the natives, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States/dp/0060838655


The method that many peoples of the past used to spread the knowledge of Christianity was a wrong method. But at least Christianity was spread. Your life is a recipient of the great things God did and does for His people, even if you receive it incidentally.

Fortunately for all of us, the atheism religion that attempted to spread itself through 150 million or more deaths in the 20th Century, has proven to be the failure that it is, whereas Christianity has proven its greatness by being a big success.

Cool

It doesnt matter that people who didnt want to accept christianity were killed, it matters that it was spread...  Cheesy
legendary
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January 02, 2017, 01:14:32 AM

Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out.

Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity.

Cool

Wasn't it the gold rush? So they went to america because of christianity because christianity was already a main religion in Europe.. .wat

Btw you still didn't name one country.

All right. Play your game of writing nonsense.    Cool
hero member
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Need some spare btc for a new PC
January 02, 2017, 12:42:42 AM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.


The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.


Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out.

Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity.

Cool

Wasn't it the gold rush? So they went to america because of christianity because christianity was already a main religion in Europe.. .wat

Btw you still didn't name one country.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 01, 2017, 10:31:33 PM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.




The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.




+1

I do not think BSDecker types studied the history of their cult.  Most of Europe was 'Christianized' by force, sword and fire.
Never mind Africa and Americas.  How many native Indians (North and South American) had to die for the rest of them to accept Christ :-)

What ISIS is doing is nothing comparing to what the Christian crusaders did to native populations around the world.


BADecker, you want to learn what your Christian comrades did to the natives, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States/dp/0060838655


The method that many peoples of the past used to spread the knowledge of Christianity was a wrong method. But at least Christianity was spread. Your life is a recipient of the great things God did and does for His people, even if you receive it incidentally.

Fortunately for all of us, the atheism religion that attempted to spread itself through 150 million or more deaths in the 20th Century, has proven to be the failure that it is, whereas Christianity has proven its greatness by being a big success.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
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January 01, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.




The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.




+1

I do not think BSDecker types studied the history of their cult.  Most of Europe was 'Christianized' by force, sword and fire.
Never mind Africa and Americas.  How many native Indians (North and South American) had to die for the rest of them to accept Christ :-)

What ISIS is doing is nothing comparing to what the Christian crusaders did to native populations around the world.


BADecker, you want to learn what your Christian comrades did to the natives, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States/dp/0060838655
legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 01, 2017, 10:08:30 PM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.


The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.


Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out.

Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 01, 2017, 10:02:58 PM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

Cool
Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.




The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

Cool

Sorry I disagree, the Bible has changed. The wording has changed. Just like a good fashion outfit it changes with the season and fashions of the time. If it were true and correct this would not have happened.


The changes in the O.T. are so minor that they change the meaning of nothing. Dead Sea Scrolls attest to this.

N.T. changes do not exist since about 350 A.D.  The few fragments that we have found from the 1st century A.D. show that nothing has changed.

Of course, simply stating it here means nothing more than to give us a starting point if we are really interested in doing research.

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January 01, 2017, 10:01:11 PM
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

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Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.




The problem with this is that it is actually known  Cheesy

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

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"The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like.

and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised.

"the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one.


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Atheists hate Religion because if they believe it they know their final place is in the Hellfire.

But since atheists don't believe in your magical places, therefore they don't fear it. So no, you're wrong. They don't hate it, but dislike it since that's the thinking from 2000 years ago and if you didn't notice humanity and science have come a long way, unlike muslim countries, they went 500 years back in time.
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