Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 103. (Read 901360 times)

Sorry I disagree, the Bible has changed. The wording has changed. Just like a good fashion outfit it changes with the season and fashions of the time. If it were true and correct this would not have happened.

The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years.

The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it.

The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts.

The problem with this is that it is actually known 

90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory

It's just stuff that isn't true

They dont hate religion per say they just deny the existence or a deity or a Superior being.

Atheists hate Religion because if they believe it they know their final place is in the Hellfire.

Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic.

Religion exists because people have a natural knowledge of God in their hearts, because nobody knows the future, and because people are trying to find out more about God and their future.


These things you list do not exist naturally. They are language(s) created by people, that people use to attempt to bring the fantastically complex things of the universe, down to a simplicity where we can understand them. Because they are not complete, and because they do not show everything, they are limited, and often wrong.


Faith is involved until theories have been tested out enough so that they can be proven factual or not factual. The theories that are not factual are dropped as theories. So are the theories that can never be proven one way or the other. This last point is why Big Bang Theory should have been dropped as from the list of theories long ago. It can never be proven one way or another, even if its model can be proven possible.


In the case of the religion of believing science theory to be fact, and in the case of the atheism religion, you are right.


LOL. Are you this ignorant about science theory? Or are you simply trolling?


And this is good. The thing that is bad is turning them into religions by believing that they are factual before they have been proven to be factual.


That these things have been observed is factual. The explanations of what they are is only theory. Close to 100% of this is explained only in theoretical form. You can hope the theory is fact, but you don't know it is fact. So, stop proclaiming that your religious belief about this stuff is reality.



Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown.

where i live atheist does not hate Religion but they hate when you talkn with them about God

Religion is based on Arts (literature).

Science is based on Mathematics (statistics, calculus, algebra, probability, geometry etc.).

Scientific theories are developed using Math.  They are validated (or invalidated) in the lab.  There is no faith involved.
Religious dogma was developed by people to control other people.

I urge you to learn more about science before you speak about it.

New scientific theories are being developed as we speak.

If your belief system is based on the fact that something is mysterious and unknown therefore it must be God, get ready for this belief system to be shaken to its core.

If you think God is behind the Big Bang, be prepared to move your God concept further into unknown.

Earth is spinning on its axis, it goes around the Sun, Solar system is a vortex and it moves through space, our galaxy is moving away from other galaxies, the whole universe is
expanding at ever increasing rate, it is being pushed away by Dark Energy.  All of that has been observed and confirmed.

So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.

Right on sister. There is danger in believing science theory as truth. It turns the idea of science into a religion, when science should only be the gathering of knowledge. Then all those science theory religion believers discriminate against believers of other religions, because they are non-believers to them.

What makes [religious] beliefs extremely dangerous, is its ability to override common sense, and then to enforce its own illogicality as non-questionable law on each and every believer, whilst fostering discrimination against all non-believers.

There you go again, contradicting the scientific proof I have shown in the links above.

On top of it, you claim that religion thinks. Are you believing in metaphysics when you make this claim?

Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and a whole bunch of other religious atheists were way more practical. They didn't wast time on burning people at the stake. The just shot them.

However, thanks for posting your stuff. But I should be gentle with the weak minded.

God does not exist.  We have many unknowns.  God is not any of them.  God is well understood.  It is an imaginary friend, can be reduced to an emotion people experience.

Religion thought Earth was flat and was at the center of the universe.  Today we know that is not the case. 

Religious people were burning people alive for stating what they observed in the real world.  Talk about insanity.

You post some nonsense, as your proof?  You are delusional. 

Now YOU learn to read. From Dictionary.com, at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t:
Note number 6 in the definition. The more you attempt to make atheism to not be a religion, the more you force it into the realm of religious activity according to number 6. Other aspects of the atheism religion fit the definition of religion as well.

Consider. A few things that prove that God exists are listed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
There are many more when you search for them.

Since God exists, you are setting yourself up as god over God when you say He doesn't. In order to set yourself up against the God of the universe in a meaningful way, you have to be very strong willed. Your strong will is your religion according to number 1 of the definition.

Since you are unwilling to admit to the truth when it is stuck right in front of you, and especially when your actions prove that you are doing the exact things that you are saying you are not doing (maintaining a religion with yourself), you are a liar, and shouldn't be trusted in anything.

and due to lack of knowledge and fear of the unknown, a God was made.

In fact, the existence of God does not matter, it is common sense, logic, based on the two reasons, based on rational morality. Maybe religion is not necessary, but faith is indispensable. Even if there is no God, a God must be made.

Definition of what?

Religion: noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

noun
noun: naturalism
1.
(in art and literature) a style and theory of representation based on the accurate depiction of detail.
"his attack on naturalism in TV drama"
2.
the philosophical belief that everything arises from natural properties and causes, and supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted.
"this romanticized attitude to the world did conflict with his avowed naturalism"
3.
(in moral philosophy) the theory that ethical statements can be derived from non-ethical ones.

I do not believe in a supernatural power "especially a god or gods" therefore I question those who do. This gives me knowledge.

Learn to read!

You keep ignoring the evidence and the proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Well, to be honest, I've never considered myself an atheist, I do like buddhism because as I said because of it's impact on your body and spirit. I don't know if god exists or not, maybehe does, maybe he doesnt, maybe he exists but left the Earth to ourselves.. who knows, but the situation right now is point to non existance of god of any kind.

You are finally catching on a little. They call these kinds of people scientists.


Obviously, you are SAYING that you don't believe. But the fact that you adamantly say that there is no God, when you don't know for a fact that there is no God, shows that you are setting yourself up as god, higher than any God or potential god... especially in view of all the evidence and facts that show God, that I and many others proclaim. So, you are quite mixed up, and need some spiritual or psychological guidance.



Don't pick on yourself like that. You aren't some kind of a different subhuman species. The fact that God is maintaining order and stability in everything, gives us all a feeling of false security. But if we didn't have it, there would be no pleasure or joy or laughing or fun in life. And God wants us to have these things... according to the ways that are beneficial for us, that He shows us in His Word, the Bible.