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August 08, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
Let me say it simply. God always was. God always is. He has no beginning or end.

Your question is really out of line. Why? Because you can't follow the cause and effect of even one electron, while God follows them all - and everything else - completely. So, until you can do this simple, little thing, answers to questions about the sublime nature of God won't be even a little understandable to you. Forget it.
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When I think upon the divine, I have to take myself in consideration. Why? Because I am the start and finish of myself, my own measuring stick if you want. So if God creates everything is must be by divine romance; it must be Goddess and God having divine sex and then the stars follows after that. This is the only way for me to make sense of these things. So Goddess is important in this equition because it is she that nutures star babies inside till the big bang shoot out in all direction moment. lots and lots of star babies. its wonderful!


You quoted me, above, but forgot to read what I said. There is no "must be" regarding God, except if He tells us. Why? Because we don't know even a touch of what God is like without Him telling us. We are countless trillions of times closer to microbes in our abilities than we are to God.

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Are you sure BADecker?



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August 08, 2016, 01:39:20 PM


Yep. The atheists worship Satan, and they don't seem to like it when they show themselves that they do.

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Who told you such a heresy that atheists are secret Satanists ?! Atheism is the rejection of any belief in immaterial things. In other words, an atheist can believe only in what you can touch, to make hands.

Who said it is secret? Either you worship God, or you worship Satan by default.

Atheism is an attempted belief in some things and an attempted non-belief in other things. However, atheists can't believe like they talk. They are lying to themselves about what they believe and don't believe.

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August 08, 2016, 01:19:05 PM


Yep. The atheists worship Satan, and they don't seem to like it when they show themselves that they do.

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Who told you such a heresy that atheists are secret Satanists ?! Atheism is the rejection of any belief in immaterial things. In other words, an atheist can believe only in what you can touch, to make hands.
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August 08, 2016, 01:01:12 PM


Yep. The atheists worship Satan, and they don't seem to like it when they show themselves that they do.

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August 08, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
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August 08, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
Let me say it simply. God always was. God always is. He has no beginning or end.

Your question is really out of line. Why? Because you can't follow the cause and effect of even one electron, while God follows them all - and everything else - completely. So, until you can do this simple, little thing, answers to questions about the sublime nature of God won't be even a little understandable to you. Forget it.
Cool

When I think upon the divine, I have to take myself in consideration. Why? Because I am the start and finish of myself, my own measuring stick if you want. So if God creates everything is must be by divine romance; it must be Goddess and God having divine sex and then the stars follows after that. This is the only way for me to make sense of these things. So Goddess is important in this equition because it is she that nutures star babies inside till the big bang shoot out in all direction moment. lots and lots of star babies. its wonderful!





oookay...
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August 08, 2016, 12:50:34 AM
Let me say it simply. God always was. God always is. He has no beginning or end.

Your question is really out of line. Why? Because you can't follow the cause and effect of even one electron, while God follows them all - and everything else - completely. So, until you can do this simple, little thing, answers to questions about the sublime nature of God won't be even a little understandable to you. Forget it.
Cool

When I think upon the divine, I have to take myself in consideration. Why? Because I am the start and finish of myself, my own measuring stick if you want. So if God creates everything is must be by divine romance; it must be Goddess and God having divine sex and then the stars follows after that. This is the only way for me to make sense of these things. So Goddess is important in this equition because it is she that nutures star babies inside till the big bang shoot out in all direction moment. lots and lots of star babies. its wonderful!


You quoted me, above, but forgot to read what I said. There is no "must be" regarding God, except if He tells us. Why? Because we don't know even a touch of what God is like without Him telling us. We are countless trillions of times closer to microbes in our abilities than we are to God.

Cool
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August 07, 2016, 06:40:41 PM
Let me say it simply. God always was. God always is. He has no beginning or end.

Your question is really out of line. Why? Because you can't follow the cause and effect of even one electron, while God follows them all - and everything else - completely. So, until you can do this simple, little thing, answers to questions about the sublime nature of God won't be even a little understandable to you. Forget it.
Cool

When I think upon the divine, I have to take myself in consideration. Why? Because I am the start and finish of myself, my own measuring stick if you want. So if God creates everything is must be by divine romance; it must be Goddess and God having divine sex and then the stars follows after that. This is the only way for me to make sense of these things. So Goddess is important in this equition because it is she that nutures star babies inside till the big bang shoot out in all direction moment. lots and lots of star babies. its wonderful!



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August 07, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
Why do Atheists hate Religion ? they dont need to hate religion if they hate religions they think to war with others and  no one need to think same Atheists people or no one need to belive one Religion because of every people have to respect beliefs of others.
Who told you that atheists hate religion ?! Religion, a person who does not recognize God. Atheist, recognizes only the exact sciences. And it is the right of atheists, believe or not believe in God. There is no need to blame atheists, atheists and so bad. Atheists, after death, emptiness.

Atheists don't hate religion. Their faith in atheism IS a religion.

The exact sciences state that God exists. Cause and effect is one of the basic exact sciences. Universal entropy is one of the exact sciences. Complex universe is so extremely common that no scientist has to make a scientific law about it, because it is easily and universally understood by all people.

A universe that has these three exact sciences in it must be an universe that was made by an almighty God. There is no other way. Atheists are deluding themselves with the fictional dream that atheism is real.

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and just how did this almighty god come to be?  please enlighten me

cue another typical nonsensical word salad in 3...2...


Let me say it simply. God always was. God always is. He has no beginning or end.

Your question is really out of line. Why? Because you can't follow the cause and effect of even one electron, while God follows them all - and everything else - completely. So, until you can do this simple, little thing, answers to questions about the sublime nature of God won't be even a little understandable to you. Forget it.

Cool
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August 07, 2016, 03:39:10 PM
Why do Atheists hate Religion ? they dont need to hate religion if they hate religions they think to war with others and  no one need to think same Atheists people or no one need to belive one Religion because of every people have to respect beliefs of others.
Who told you that atheists hate religion ?! Religion, a person who does not recognize God. Atheist, recognizes only the exact sciences. And it is the right of atheists, believe or not believe in God. There is no need to blame atheists, atheists and so bad. Atheists, after death, emptiness.

Atheists don't hate religion. Their faith in atheism IS a religion.

The exact sciences state that God exists. Cause and effect is one of the basic exact sciences. Universal entropy is one of the exact sciences. Complex universe is so extremely common that no scientist has to make a scientific law about it, because it is easily and universally understood by all people.

A universe that has these three exact sciences in it must be an universe that was made by an almighty God. There is no other way. Atheists are deluding themselves with the fictional dream that atheism is real.

Cool

and just how did this almighty god come to be?  please enlighten me

cue another typical nonsensical word salad in 3...2...
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August 07, 2016, 11:19:48 AM
Why do Atheists hate Religion ? they dont need to hate religion if they hate religions they think to war with others and  no one need to think same Atheists people or no one need to belive one Religion because of every people have to respect beliefs of others.
Who told you that atheists hate religion ?! Religion, a person who does not recognize God. Atheist, recognizes only the exact sciences. And it is the right of atheists, believe or not believe in God. There is no need to blame atheists, atheists and so bad. Atheists, after death, emptiness.

Atheists don't hate religion. Their faith in atheism IS a religion.

The exact sciences state that God exists. Cause and effect is one of the basic exact sciences. Universal entropy is one of the exact sciences. Complex universe is so extremely common that no scientist has to make a scientific law about it, because it is easily and universally understood by all people.

A universe that has these three exact sciences in it must be an universe that was made by an almighty God. There is no other way. Atheists are deluding themselves with the fictional dream that atheism is real.

Cool
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August 07, 2016, 08:46:41 AM
Why do Atheists hate Religion ? they dont need to hate religion if they hate religions they think to war with others and  no one need to think same Atheists people or no one need to belive one Religion because of every people have to respect beliefs of others.
Who told you that atheists hate religion ?! Religion, a person who does not recognize God. Atheist, recognizes only the exact sciences. And it is the right of atheists, believe or not believe in God. There is no need to blame atheists, atheists and so bad. Atheists, after death, emptiness.
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August 07, 2016, 08:28:14 AM
Why do Atheists hate Religion ? they dont need to hate religion if they hate religions they think to war with others and  no one need to think same Atheists people or no one need to belive one Religion because of every people have to respect beliefs of others.
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August 07, 2016, 08:01:29 AM
The only thing I can say about religion is that monotheism shared humanity and brought a lot of problems. See the topic "Monotheism is Evil, separating the human race".
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August 07, 2016, 03:50:41 AM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.




Look boy if a single boat cant create itself and if a single match stick cant form its structure and if no engineer in the world cant create a pentagon structure like that exist in nature then how come universe came in to being itself and how come humans came in to being and if you beleive in darwins theory then you are a fool and in discovery channel did they tell you that the middle stages are missing Huh they cant prove anything that humans developed from monkeys so my boy you are wrong and your every concept is wrong


Oh yes, thanks for clearing that up for everyone...

If a boat or a match cannot create themselves... therefore god... makes sense...


The only people who do not believe in evolution are people who are ignorant of the science... It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans and primates evolved from a common ancestor... this isn't even a debate these days, it's been proven (there is no "missing link")

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming and encompasses multiple branches of science from archeology (bones) to biology (vestigial organs) to DNA (98%+ identical), etc

Evolution has been shown to happen in laboratory experiments involving fruit flies, wasps, etc

Evolution happens with diseases all the time... do some research on the FLU virus or antibiotic resistant bacteria

All relevant branches of science agree that evolution is a fact... please at least do the smallest bit of research before offering your (wrong) opinion

It is not evolution. It is change, programmed into a complex nature, by the Programmer, God, so that when certain things happen, certain other results are achieved.

True evolution in nature is mathematically impossible. Guided evolution in the lab is creation-by-man, not evolution by nature.

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now how did i guess you are an evolution denyer? wait dont tell me... its only a theory right?   if we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys?  
them gosh darn dumb evil-lutionists dont know nuthin. i didnt evolve from no monkey!! GOD DID IT!  he done created everything...says so in the bible! so it must be true.


hey so what OS does your invisible  imaginary friend in the sky run when hes programming evolution ?  Ya think he prefers Windows or Mac? what app does he use?


So you really like your evolution religion! Well, I kinda like some science fiction, as well.

If you are looking for the truth about about abiogenesis and evolution, mathematically abiogenesis would be a lot easier than evolution. Both of them are mathematically so impossible that, there isn't the slightest chance that they could ever get started.

In addition, everything operates by cause and effect in nature. The only reversal we see in this is when scientists cause effect to happen in the lab before cause happens. So, it still is cause and effect.

Cause and effect means programming. And entropy means a beginning somewhere in the past. Somewhere in the past something programmed the universe to happen. The best term we have for this something is "God."

I am showing you science here. Check it out. It is the thing that works. God is real. Science proves it and nature shows it. Why are you so set on believing your imaginary evolution fiction?

Cool

why do you need to bring a god into the equation?
So because we dont know (and maybe we will never know, only speculate) how the universe began
you just assume it must be a god. You make this ridiculous leap as all you religious god nutters do.
i.e...Scientists don't know what happened at the moment of the big bang so it must be god that dunnit!
  
I always get a kick outta these creationist ignoramouses who poo poo the idea that the universe came from "nothing"
(read up on quantum theory or "A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss) but have no problem with a super duper all powerful invisible sky fairy god that created everything.
oh i see, so did this god just come from nothing? please explain to me who created this almighty god.
its turtles all the way down!!  lmao!

I believe in  the theory of evolution because of something called real evidence.
Something that is lacking in all your nonsensical posts about how religion is science or some such deluded thing.
mathmatically impossible you say? you are either brainwashed misinformed or plain ignorant, probably both.
no, you are most certainly not showing me science by just proclaiming your imaginary god is real( in a bitcoin forum no less, lmao).
i dare you to take your quote... "God is real. Science proves it and nature shows it. Why are you so set on believing your imaginary evolution fiction?"...
and post it in a real science forum. let me know when and where if you do (fat chance) because  that will be comedy gold.

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic
wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."  

"I am aware that the assumed instinctive belief in God has been used by many persons as an argument for his existence.
The idea of a universal and beneficent Creator does not seem to arise in the mind of man, until he has been elevated by long-continued culture"


  Charles Darwin


Man, you really have strong faith in your religion.

Everyone who wants to take a look at the science of combining cause and effect, with complex universe, with universal entropy can see that God exists. Looking at nature simply makes God a lot easier to understand.

Of course, Darwinian stupidity has been going on long before Darwin. And there will always be stupid people who are always going to believe this cult.

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August 07, 2016, 12:57:45 AM
Secularism has been the father of tolerance with the division between government and religion.

Free thinkers, skeptics, agnostics and atheists were the main fathers of secularism.

They have been the major defenders of tolerance.

Believers have all the right to believe on whatever they want, as long as they don't try to kill, persecute, discriminate or coercively change the life of atheists.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

They don't just KILL they suppress reality from the people.

I commend that old man for trying to do the right thing and taking the punishment for it.
Tolerance ?
Is not strapping bombs to yourself then running into a bus full of people in Turkey.
Or machine gun toting religious wacko's NOT killing people in France at a Metal concert.

The ONLY people being intolerant ARE the religious !
All the rest of us exercise real tolerance and let you all have your beliefs / way of life etc.

I think the topic title is more like "Why do they get mad when we jam our shit down their throat ?"
Christian's seem to be the ones who are "Angry" * intolerant.
THEY are the ones who come to my door.. bible in hand.

If i want to have alternate beliefs then deal with it Christians.
Get over it.. you can't stop me or force me to worship Mickey Mouse for Chocolate on Sunday's.

If i REFUSE the advances of being brain washed by silly religions i am an angry intolerant person ?
Sure.. go strap a bomb around your chest about it.  Roll Eyes
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August 06, 2016, 11:05:13 PM

I am wondering a bit about religions, the ones form mid east - in these ones there is a character called Jesus, so I'm told, as the stories in the religion storybooks goes, that this character in fact is the only begotten of the father. My question is how was this character beget? usually it takes 2 to beget some one. in the storybook is tells of father, who counts as 1, but nowhere is told about mother. How does this 'only begottenness' work in this storybook? This is now the character in his everlastingness, without human involvement.


It never happened.  How could it?  You need a sperm and an egg.  No sperm, no baby.

The whole story was made up, from the very beginning.

God wanted to forgive people for their sins (which he knew they would commit when he created them), so he sent his son (or himself) to die on a cross, to be killed by the very people who he wanted to forgive sins for, to pay for the sins of mortals.  Why not just forgive them in the first place?  By this logic he should be sending his son every year or so to forgive the sins of men.  Plenty of "sins" committed since year 33 AD and no Jesus, God or Holy Spirit in sight.

Or better yet, make people such so that they don't commit any sins.  How hard would it be for God who created everything to do that?  Easy peasy lemon squeezy....

Either way the story has some big holes and people are just afraid to talk about it.

The writers of the Old/New testament were uneducated bronze age schmucks who did not think this through.


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August 06, 2016, 10:24:38 PM

I am wondering a bit about religions, the ones form mid east - in these ones there is a character called Jesus, so I'm told, as the stories in the religion storybooks goes, that this character in fact is the only begotten of the father. My question is how was this character beget? usually it takes 2 to beget some one. in the storybook is tells of father, who counts as 1, but nowhere is told about mother. How does this 'only begottenness' work in this storybook? This is now the character in his everlastingness, without human involvement.


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August 06, 2016, 09:57:52 PM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.




Look boy if a single boat cant create itself and if a single match stick cant form its structure and if no engineer in the world cant create a pentagon structure like that exist in nature then how come universe came in to being itself and how come humans came in to being and if you beleive in darwins theory then you are a fool and in discovery channel did they tell you that the middle stages are missing Huh they cant prove anything that humans developed from monkeys so my boy you are wrong and your every concept is wrong


Oh yes, thanks for clearing that up for everyone...

If a boat or a match cannot create themselves... therefore god... makes sense...


The only people who do not believe in evolution are people who are ignorant of the science... It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans and primates evolved from a common ancestor... this isn't even a debate these days, it's been proven (there is no "missing link")

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming and encompasses multiple branches of science from archeology (bones) to biology (vestigial organs) to DNA (98%+ identical), etc

Evolution has been shown to happen in laboratory experiments involving fruit flies, wasps, etc

Evolution happens with diseases all the time... do some research on the FLU virus or antibiotic resistant bacteria

All relevant branches of science agree that evolution is a fact... please at least do the smallest bit of research before offering your (wrong) opinion

It is not evolution. It is change, programmed into a complex nature, by the Programmer, God, so that when certain things happen, certain other results are achieved.

True evolution in nature is mathematically impossible. Guided evolution in the lab is creation-by-man, not evolution by nature.

Cool

now how did i guess you are an evolution denyer? wait dont tell me... its only a theory right?   if we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys?  
them gosh darn dumb evil-lutionists dont know nuthin. i didnt evolve from no monkey!! GOD DID IT!  he done created everything...says so in the bible! so it must be true.


hey so what OS does your invisible  imaginary friend in the sky run when hes programming evolution ?  Ya think he prefers Windows or Mac? what app does he use?


So you really like your evolution religion! Well, I kinda like some science fiction, as well.

If you are looking for the truth about about abiogenesis and evolution, mathematically abiogenesis would be a lot easier than evolution. Both of them are mathematically so impossible that, there isn't the slightest chance that they could ever get started.

In addition, everything operates by cause and effect in nature. The only reversal we see in this is when scientists cause effect to happen in the lab before cause happens. So, it still is cause and effect.

Cause and effect means programming. And entropy means a beginning somewhere in the past. Somewhere in the past something programmed the universe to happen. The best term we have for this something is "God."

I am showing you science here. Check it out. It is the thing that works. God is real. Science proves it and nature shows it. Why are you so set on believing your imaginary evolution fiction?

Cool

why do you need to bring a god into the equation?
So because we dont know (and maybe we will never know, only speculate) how the universe began
you just assume it must be a god. You make this ridiculous leap as all you religious god nutters do.
i.e...Scientists don't know what happened at the moment of the big bang so it must be god that dunnit!
  
I always get a kick outta these creationist ignoramouses who poo poo the idea that the universe came from "nothing"
(read up on quantum theory or "A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss) but have no problem with a super duper all powerful invisible sky fairy god that created everything.
oh i see, so did this god just come from nothing? please explain to me who created this almighty god.
its turtles all the way down!!  lmao!

I believe in  the theory of evolution because of something called real evidence.
Something that is lacking in all your nonsensical posts about how religion is science or some such deluded thing.
mathmatically impossible you say? you are either brainwashed misinformed or plain ignorant, probably both.
no, you are most certainly not showing me science by just proclaiming your imaginary god is real( in a bitcoin forum no less, lmao).
i dare you to take your quote... "God is real. Science proves it and nature shows it. Why are you so set on believing your imaginary evolution fiction?"...
and post it in a real science forum. let me know when and where if you do (fat chance) because  that will be comedy gold.

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic
wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."  

"I am aware that the assumed instinctive belief in God has been used by many persons as an argument for his existence.
The idea of a universal and beneficent Creator does not seem to arise in the mind of man, until he has been elevated by long-continued culture"


  Charles Darwin




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August 06, 2016, 11:56:12 AM
Secularism has been the father of tolerance with the division between government and religion.

Free thinkers, skeptics, agnostics and atheists were the main fathers of secularism.

They have been the major defenders of tolerance.

Believers have all the right to believe on whatever they want, as long as they don't try to kill, persecute, discriminate or coercively change the life of atheists.



Tolerance is a chance for mankind's salvation. God loves righteousness. God wants everyone to turn and move into righteousness. Tolerance is the time that God gives for people to change and become righteous. The only way people can do this is to accept the salvation of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. When the time is up, there is no more tolerance by God, and the people are either accepted as righteous, or destroyed.

When secular people think that they are the ones who invented tolerance, they are trying to step into the position of being like God. It won't work. The only way it works for them is if they accept and do it God's way... Jesus salvation.

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