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May 11, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
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Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.


Pigs being the primary carrier of something does not mean they all have it. The human form of the AIDS virus is carried primarily by humans, but do you have AIDS? Do you avoid all humans because some might carry this virus? To avoid pigs on the basis that there exists certain viruses which they primarily carry is not the same as avoiding them because they all carry it.

And everything you eat can lead to a disease. Are you prohibited from having fat? Fat leads to heart disease. Sugar? Diabetes. Salt? Hypertension. Unless you're eating a strictly vegan diet, anything you eat can lead to some type of disease. The prohibition on pork because it can be bad for you is logically faulty, as you're surely eating many other things that are just as likely to cause some other disease, which is apparently fine by your religion.
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May 11, 2015, 08:15:41 AM
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So when you focus narrowly on pigs as "bad" you really are only reciting what you were taught in your culture.  Reading your paragraphs clearly shows such a cultural perspective.  
 -snip-

The discussion was about "pigs", so I posted about "pigs.
That you did.  And it's reasonable that narrowly following rigid dogma from an old book will prevent understanding about pigs.  So lets look at pigs.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/05/09/why-pigs-are-so-valuable-for-medical-research/

Researchers from the National Institutes of Health last month announced that they'd successfully transplanted hearts from genetically engineered pigs into baboons, potentially paving the way for pig-to-human organ transplants in the future.

And on May 7, genome scientist Craig Venter partnered with United Therapeutics Corp. to develop pig lungs that could be compatible with the human body.

But pigs offer more than just a potential source for organ donation. For over 30 years, scientists have been using pigs in a number of medical fields, including dermatology, cardiology and more. Recently, scientists were even able to re-grow human leg muscles using implants made of pig bladder tissue.

So what makes this farm animal so valuable for medical research? Outwardly, pigs and people seem drastically different; we share only three scientific classifications, and we certainly don’t look alike.

    "If [something] works in the pig, then it has a high possibility of working in the human."

    - Michael Swindle, author of "Swine in the Laboratory"

It just so happens that, despite our differences, many of the pig’s biological systems are very similar to our own.

“They have a number of anatomic and physiologic similarities to humans in different systems,” Dr. Michael Swindle, retired veterinary researcher and author of “Swine in the Laboratory,” said in an interview. “They are what’s known as a translational research model, so if [something] works in the pig, then it has a high possibility of working in the human.”

According to Swindle, many of the pig’s organ systems are 80 to 90 percent similar to the corresponding systems in humans – both in anatomy and function. The system that matches up best may be the cardiovascular system, as a pig’s heart is about the same size and shape as a human heart. Pigs develop atherosclerosis – artery plaque buildup – in the same way that humans do, and they react similarly to myocardial infarction, the classic heart attack.

Because of these similarities, scientists have long used pigs to test interventional catheter devices and methods of cardiovascular surgery, as well as to understand how the heart works in general. And tissues derived from pig hearts have been used to replace defective heart valves in humans, lasting upwards of 15 years in the human body.

Beyond their closely related hearts and blood vessels, another characteristic humans and pigs share is their diet. Both eat meat and plants to survive.

“The pig is a true omnivore like we are,” Swindle said. “It can eat and drink anything. And because of this, the physiology of digestion and the metabolic processes in the liver are also similar to humans. They’re used in a lot of dietary type of studies, as well as oral absorption studies of drugs.”

The similarities don’t stop there. Pig kidneys are comparable in size and function to human kidneys, lending themselves to renal research. And pigs have been one of the standard plastic surgery models for decades, as their skin wounds heal similarly to humans’ skin.

And there’s more. Diabetics who needed daily insulin injections relied on pork insulin until the 1980s, when manufacturers started making biosynthetic insulin through recombinant DNA technology. The insulin-producing cells in a pig’s pancreas are similar to humans’, so a significant amount of research on diabetes has been aimed at isolating those cells and harnessing them for future treatments.

No one really knows why the organs and anatomical systems of pigs are so similar to humans. Swindle theorizes that millions of years ago, they were even more similar, but then the species diverged genetically and independently developed similar characteristics through evolution.

“Along the evolutionary tree, my own personal belief is that they were true omnivores, so the metabolism and hormones that go along with being an omnivore may have led them on a pathway that gave them these similar characteristics [to humans],” Swindle said.

Because of these striking similarities in organ systems and the growing problem of donor organ shortages, pigs have been targeted as potential heart and lung donors for humans. Though primates such as baboons and chimpanzees are more closely related to humans, pigs provide a more attractive option for organ donation, as they are much more readily available and are already used for food.

“For another organ source, if you use a different species, they have to be available in large numbers and they have to be ethically acceptable,” said Dr. Soon Park, division chief of cardiac surgery for University Hospitals Case Medical Center in Cleveland.

“So if it’s something like the baboon, we may be closer to them than to pigs, but there are some ethical and moral issues there, and they are probably not acceptable for use. They’re also hard to raise in large numbers.”

Transplanting pig organs into humans – a process known as xenotransplantation – has been difficult, as the presence of pig organs causes the human immune system to go into hyperacute rejection. But with the success of the NIH’s study on pig-to-primate organ transplantation, pigs are once again being considered as a potentially viable option for transplants.

So in the world of medicine, it’s likely the pig’s popularity will only continue to rise.
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May 11, 2015, 07:12:45 AM
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So when you focus narrowly on pigs as "bad" you really are only reciting what you were taught in your culture.  Reading your paragraphs clearly shows such a cultural perspective. 
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The discussion was about "pigs", so I posted about "pigs.
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May 11, 2015, 06:37:36 AM
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Yes, all meats can spread diseases but you should understand why pork's meat is different and unhygienic than others. "Pork are omnivorous scavenging animals that literally eat everything. From rotten food to dead carcasses nothing escapes their menu. They not only eats bugs, insects, and whatever leftover scraps they find laying around, but also their own feces, as well as the dead carcasses of sick animals, including their own young. This is why the fat that builds up in their muscles is far more than any other meet that we eat. This itself can explain why the meat of the pig can be so dirty or at the very least not so appetizing to consume." (Read below)

I don't want to convince you either but you just keep saying we don't think.......

Attempts to validate an ancient behavioral directive by modern science will fail.

The argument presented that "we (Muslims) don't think" is as valid as any argument against religion, superstition, or cultural beliefs.  So it certainly isn't just against Muslims.  Although that is the subject of this topic so here we are.

Did you know that of various kinds of bad food, spoiled fish is the one thing that will certainly kill you?  Not only that, but fresh water fish carry many kinds of parasites thus cannot be eaten raw.  Fish from the sea do not, thus they may be eaten raw.

So when you focus narrowly on pigs as "bad" you really are only reciting what you were taught in your culture.  Reading your paragraphs clearly shows such a cultural perspective. 

 Having said that I guess the only concern I would have about the presence or absence of pigs in your culture would be whether their absence contributed to malnutrition or such in a portion of the population.   Otherwise it's of no concern to me.

However I agree with the concept that a rigid focus on dogma from an old book will prevent scientific understanding.   
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Wait, are you trying to find logic behind Muslim teachings?
Something which doesn't exist cannot be found.
Most of their rituals are opposite of what's done in other religions. They pray in different positions, they have unusual kind of beard, they wear short pants, they cook on inverted pans.
All they do is derived out of opposing what people of other religions do, there origin lies in this, they were formed by the barbaric outcast of the society who were barred from interfering in normal aspects of life cuz they were too cunning and evil minded.

We pray in the direction of Ka'ba.

Do you think there is certain style of beard Muslims? If yes, then it is a false information. We just want to wear beard and there is no certain style but the style should be good.

What do you mean by "cook on inverted pans"? There are many ways of cooking for various foods. So different food will be cooked in different ways in different regions.

Cause you do pray in a different position just for the sake of opposing what other religions predominantly did.
Also at least Sikhs have more clean and hygienic beards than a Muslim.
And people are clean shaved cause it it hygienic! Barbaric people wont ever know what hygiene is.

Not for the sake of opposing other religions. You just created a new one. It is for the sake of uniqueness. People praying in different directions isn't good. So we pray in one direction.

What do you mean by "Sikhs have more clean and beards than a Muslim"? You are essentially creating a new thing for hatred or are judging all Muslims by seing one or a few Muslims in your region.

Wearing beard have advantages. Only thing you need to do is wash it regularly which certainly happens either when bathing or when taking vulu(washing organs before praying).

Prevents skin cancer

The sun has ultraviolet (UV) rays that harm your skin and cause you to develop skin cancer. While most of your body is shielded by your clothes, your face is always exposed, unless you wear a cap every time you go out in the sun. A beard is perfect because it covers the lower half of your face, thereby reducing the risk of skin cancer significantly.

Reduces allergies

Just like the tiny hairs in your nose that prevent dust and pollen from entering your system, your beard also works as a filter that helps to keep these same allergens out of your nose and mouth.

Retains natural moisture

When you shave, your skin is exposed to the sun in summer and cold air in winter. These elements dry out your skin, but if you have a beard to protect you then your skin can retain its moisture. Your skin also has sebaceous glands that keep it moisturised. When you shave, this moisture gets eroded, but when you have a beard it remains intact.

Prevents illnesses

Having a beard can help you stave off wintertime illnesses like a cold or cough, because it keeps your face and neck warm. Your beard serves as insulation against the cold, trapping your body heat from escaping and protecting you from the cold.

Prevents infections

People who shave regularly are prone to a lot of skin problems like rashes and infections. By giving up shaving, you don’t have to worry about rashes, bacterial infections or folliculitis, which in an infection of the hair follicles.

Keeps your skin smooth

People who shave get a lot of blemishes, in-growths and cuts on their faces that ultimately mar the smoothness of their skin. When you stop shaving and grow a beard, you automatically get less blemishes and much smoother skin.

Keeps you young

This is an ironic health benefit, since having a beard tends to make you look much older. But actually, by protecting your face from sun damage and blemishes, your beard keeps your skin much younger.
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May 10, 2015, 10:04:37 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.



You can do a lot better than that....All the animals are potentials hosts for various diseases, the pork is just one among many animals carrying diseases ...I can't believe that you are turning this discussion into the "pork is the most dangerous stuff to eat"

Someone just showed you just a fraction of the diseases that the goat carries...same goes for birds (everybody heard of the avian flue - H5N1) , beef (mad cow disease , the UK had huge problems with it ) etc etc

My point is not to convince you or others Muslims to eat pork ( I don't eat pork very often either), but I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU that your brain does a "deep freeze" (similar to the famous software) when arguments circumvent the Islam teachings...You (Muslims) cannot let valid arguments to change the way you were taught for 20+ years, thus you are not capable of evolution...

We(non-Muslims) learn from our mistakes, we learn from others. You are not capable of accepting/absorbing new information, you are stuck to square 1 in the Qur'an. That is the reason that in 1400+ years you evolved so little as a society and in 2015 you still kill people with stones for an affair...and I don't mean ISIS ruled territory here, I mean Saudi Arabia and many other "developed" Arab countries

You(Muslims) are a huge problem for the rest of the world because you are many, you cannot adapt and you are unwilling/incapable to accept facts...Sooner or later something's  gotta give...

Islam, one of the great diseases!   Smiley
I do not think that Islam, if one of the great diseases, can rise to the level of Badecker Christianity Affliction.
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May 10, 2015, 06:58:09 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.



You can do a lot better than that....All the animals are potentials hosts for various diseases, the pork is just one among many animals carrying diseases ...I can't believe that you are turning this discussion into the "pork is the most dangerous stuff to eat"

Someone just showed you just a fraction of the diseases that the goat carries...same goes for birds (everybody heard of the avian flue - H5N1) , beef (mad cow disease , the UK had huge problems with it ) etc etc

My point is not to convince you or others Muslims to eat pork ( I don't eat pork very often either), but I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU that your brain does a "deep freeze" (similar to the famous software) when arguments circumvent the Islam teachings...You (Muslims) cannot let valid arguments to change the way you were taught for 20+ years, thus you are not capable of evolution...

We(non-Muslims) learn from our mistakes, we learn from others. You are not capable of accepting/absorbing new information, you are stuck to square 1 in the Qur'an. That is the reason that in 1400+ years you evolved so little as a society and in 2015 you still kill people with stones for an affair...and I don't mean ISIS ruled territory here, I mean Saudi Arabia and many other "developed" Arab countries

You(Muslims) are a huge problem for the rest of the world because you are many, you cannot adapt and you are unwilling/incapable to accept facts...Sooner or later something's  gotta give...

Islam, one of the great diseases!   Smiley
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May 10, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.



You can do a lot better than that....All the animals are potentials hosts for various diseases, the pork is just one among many animals carrying diseases ...I can't believe that you are turning this discussion into the "pork is the most dangerous stuff to eat"

Someone just showed you just a fraction of the diseases that the goat carries...same goes for birds (everybody heard of the avian flue - H5N1) , beef (mad cow disease , the UK had huge problems with it ) etc etc

My point is not to convince you or others Muslims to eat pork ( I don't eat pork very often either), but I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU that your brain does a "deep freeze" (similar to the famous software) when arguments circumvent the Islam teachings...You (Muslims) cannot let valid arguments to change the way you were taught for 20+ years, thus you are not capable of evolution...

We(non-Muslims) learn from our mistakes, we learn from others. You are not capable of accepting/absorbing new information, you are stuck to square 1 in the Qur'an. That is the reason that in 1400+ years you evolved so little as a society and in 2015 you still kill people with stones for an affair...and I don't mean ISIS ruled territory here, I mean Saudi Arabia and many other "developed" Arab countries

You(Muslims) are a huge problem for the rest of the world because you are many, you cannot adapt and you are unwilling/incapable to accept facts...Sooner or later something's  gotta give...
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May 10, 2015, 02:43:23 PM
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And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.

I have a friend who only eats chicken without the skin.  The skin is bad.

Another who won't eat Chinese food.  Thinks it's bad.

Another who is vegetarian.  Meat and fish are bad.

Another who won't eat bread.  Says it's bad.

You are just one more with your personal opinion.
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May 10, 2015, 01:35:10 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029
Wait, are you trying to find logic behind Muslim teachings?
Something which doesn't exist cannot be found.
Most of their rituals are opposite of what's done in other religions. They pray in different positions, they have unusual kind of beard, they wear short pants, they cook on inverted pans.
All they do is derived out of opposing what people of other religions do, there origin lies in this, they were formed by the barbaric outcast of the society who were barred from interfering in normal aspects of life cuz they were too cunning and evil minded.

Where is the Logic in your Above post?

"They pray in different positions"  Why you say this?
"they have unusual kind of beard" Why you have problem with them ? Why Sikhs have large beared? Why people are clean shaved?
and like other?

Cause you do pray in a different position just for the sake of opposing what other religions predominantly did.
Also at least Sikhs have more clean and hygienic beards than a Muslim.
And people are clean shaved cause it it hygienic! Barbaric people wont ever know what hygiene is.
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May 10, 2015, 01:32:40 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.

So why did your Allah supported the spread lf these diseases-

1. Leptospirosis
2. Cryptosporidia
3. Q fever
4. Psittacosis (ornithosis, chlamydiosis)
5. Contagious echthyma (orf)
6. Rabies
7. Escherichia coli
8. Ring worms
All these diseases can be caused due to eating goat's meat.

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May 10, 2015, 01:27:40 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029
Wait, are you trying to find logic behind Muslim teachings?
Something which doesn't exist cannot be found.
Most of their rituals are opposite of what's done in other religions. They pray in different positions, they have unusual kind of beard, they wear short pants, they cook on inverted pans.
All they do is derived out of opposing what people of other religions do, there origin lies in this, they were formed by the barbaric outcast of the society who were barred from interfering in normal aspects of life cuz they were too cunning and evil minded.

Where is the Logic in your Above post?

"They pray in different positions"  Why you say this?
"they have unusual kind of beard" Why you have problem with them ? Why Sikhs have large beared? Why people are clean shaved?
and like other?
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May 10, 2015, 01:23:16 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
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Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029

Please dont give your Opinion talk with Logic and Scientifically, I say

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.

And you said "I have friends who think the yellows is harmful" Its not the logic.
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May 10, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029
Wait, are you trying to find logic behind Muslim teachings?
Something which doesn't exist cannot be found.
Most of their rituals are opposite of what's done in other religions. They pray in different positions, they have unusual kind of beard, they wear short pants, they cook on inverted pans.
All they do is derived out of opposing what people of other religions do, there origin lies in this, they were formed by the barbaric outcast of the society who were barred from interfering in normal aspects of life cuz they were too cunning and evil minded.
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May 10, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.

No, that is just your point of view.  I have friends who think the yellows is harmful.  Their opinion is as valid to me as yours on pork (meaning I don't pay attention to either one!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iodine_deficiency_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2002.svg

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03344029
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May 10, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Islam traditions are barbaric and old. If a woman is not happy with her husband, kill her, big deal. I can not accept that, not in a normal world.

Kill her? What do you mean? You are spreading FUD for the sole purpose, spread hatred. That is not in Islam.
Do you yourself know what Islam is? Everyone Muslim has a different interpretation of Islam. For you the radical Islamist who are blood thirsty arnt true Muslims, for them you are fake Muslims.
You all keep on invoking clauses from your trollbook to counter all the allegations made against you.

What Billy said isn't in Islam. Are you saying it is?

What blood thirsty psychos are doing is not in Islam. They created new religion with their own set of rules for political gains. It's obvious. They do things which is against Islamic rules and say they are Muslims. Does claiming but not following make one a follower? NO!!!
What blood thirsty psychos are doing is also a part of Islam and what you are following(the peaceful version) is also Islam. Its just that you both are using different clauses from the same trollbook to justify your causes. There must be something very wrong with Kuran as it has failed to deliver a clear message to its users.

No, it isn't part of Islam. They are going for political gains and not even following rules of Islam. Not following rules and claiming they are Muslims don't make them Muslims.

Like I said, they essentially omitted grammars and twisted some of the rules and teachings for political gains.
would you care to show some of the cases where essentially the "grammar" has been omitted and twisted and thus has been used for bad purpose and do explain what was really meant by that line/phrase.
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May 10, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
Islam traditions are barbaric and old. If a woman is not happy with her husband, kill her, big deal. I can not accept that, not in a normal world.

Kill her? What do you mean? You are spreading FUD for the sole purpose, spread hatred. That is not in Islam.
Do you yourself know what Islam is? Everyone Muslim has a different interpretation of Islam. For you the radical Islamist who are blood thirsty arnt true Muslims, for them you are fake Muslims.
You all keep on invoking clauses from your trollbook to counter all the allegations made against you.

What Billy said isn't in Islam. Are you saying it is?

What blood thirsty psychos are doing is not in Islam. They created new religion with their own set of rules for political gains. It's obvious. They do things which is against Islamic rules and say they are Muslims. Does claiming but not following make one a follower? NO!!!
What blood thirsty psychos are doing is also a part of Islam and what you are following(the peaceful version) is also Islam. Its just that you both are using different clauses from the same trollbook to justify your causes. There must be something very wrong with Kuran as it has failed to deliver a clear message to its users.

No, it isn't part of Islam. They are going for political gains and not even following rules of Islam. Not following rules and claiming they are Muslims don't make them Muslims.

Like I said, they essentially omitted grammars and twisted some of the rules and teachings for political gains.
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May 10, 2015, 11:54:54 AM
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Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?
....

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

The things you mentioned above are not disease causing. Like you mentioned egg and other things seperation these are not harmful. If they are not seperated.
Who said muslim.nations has iodime deficiencies. There are many other things to full fill iodine requirements.
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