Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 122. (Read 437405 times)

Possibly not even different clauses. 

As a hypothetical example, suppose a mullah has taught his flock that Israel is evil, bad, the enemy, because they took part of the Holy Lands and that was not allowed by Islam (blah blah blah, you get the idea).  Violence against Israel is then specifically condoned by the Old Book right?

Then the mullah goes into a line of talk about how American supports Israel therefore we are also the evil one and violence is specifically allowed against America by the Old Book.

None of this is hidden one bit.  It's all right out in the open.

What blood thirsty psychos are doing is also a part of Islam and what you are following(the peaceful version) is also Islam. Its just that you both are using different clauses from the same trollbook to justify your causes. There must be something very wrong with Kuran as it has failed to deliver a clear message to its users.

Many people separate eggs yellow from white, then only eat the white.

Many people only eat certain cuts of chicken.

Many people separate fat from meat with beef before eating it.

Why separate fat from meat?  Because the animal has fat reserves so that it can survive a long harsh winter.  

Ever tried to butcher and eat a bear?

Then you would know.

Anyway, all you are doing is defending a line of code in a system of human programming from 1400 years ago.  It is an imperfect system.

Otherwise it would handle the problem of iodine deficiencies in Muslim nations.

Yes MZ is right, Why you eat anything that has bad content in it? Are you going to Separate both the good and bad things before eating it?

See here top ten reason Not to eat pork meat: http://www.peta.org/living/food/top-10-reasons-eat-pigs/

Any thing that is harmful for the human is prohibited

I did read that too. The question I posted is what I checked first time. What I found is that "consuming lean cuts (tenderloin, loin center steak, or shoulder blade boneless chops) in moderation can actually be beneficial as pork is a rich source of protein as well as vitamins and minerals including thiamin, niacin, selenium, zinc and phosphorous". When I compared, I found bad are much higher than good. So it's not good to take that risk where outcome is hardly predictable.

I understand - that is exactly what "cherry picking" means.  Only looking for supporting evidence.

Let's check "why pork meat is good for you"....

http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/saturated_fat/Pork.php
http://bacontoday.com/top-10-reasons-bacon-is-actually-healthy-for-you/
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/health-benefits-pork-chops-4294.html

That's where you are wrong. I didn't look for "supporting evidence", I looked for "why pork meat is bad for health?"!

Well then.

I consider it a good deed to follow strict rule of logic to determine what is true, and what is not true.   To abandon this and just follow old book without thinking must be bad deed. 

Hence although atheist and Koffer I have zero fear of afterlife, if it does happen to exist.

Yes, it is because of Islam forbidding it.   Then you tried to go find supporting evidence.

This is a logical error. "Cherry Picking."  Read Aristotle, "Logic."   Although I'm not thinking he came up with the term "cherry picking".

In this world: Superior people among Muslims and non-Muslims(incl. atheists) are decided according to their good deeds.
In afterlife*: Superior people are people who pray and/or do best deeds Allah told.

* Don't think you are believing in it but...

P.S. Shia formed after prophets death. It has few misinformation/misrules.

Superior number translate to superior muslim and shia muslim blames the other muslim for giving their religion a bad name. OK, but how come all muslims are equal at the same time?

As I told earlier, I looked more about pork meat. It is not just because Islam forbids it. Read my post. I have put most needed things.

No, cooked pork meat is not dangerous. 

This is an excellent example of an area of behavior where one should follow the guidance of scientific understanding, not religion.

One MIGHT follow the rule of a religion to not eat pork out of cultural respect for the tradition of that religion.

Jews do this.  None of them I have ever met believed there was actually anything unhealthy about pork.  But it was their tradition and culture not to eat it.

The study was not just pig meats but most eaten meats. It doesn't make pig as healthy as other meats like you said.

Pork are omnivorous scavenging animals that literally eat everything. From rotten food to dead carcasses nothing escapes their menu. They not only eats bugs, insects, and whatever leftover scraps they find laying around, but also their own feces, as well as the dead carcasses of sick animals, including their own young. This is why the fat that builds up in their muscles is far more than any other meet that we eat. This itself can explain why the meat of the pig can be so dirty or at the very least not so appetizing to consume.

Pork meat is loaded with toxins, more than most other meats like beef and chicken.

The Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states that more than 100 viruses come to the United States through pigs.

You’re probably familiar with H1N1, better known as ‘the swine flu.” This too is a virus that has made the leap from pig to human. But H1N1 is not the only disease to fear from the pig. There are other sicknesses you can get from eating the meat of the pig.

There are reasons that the meat of the pig becomes more saturated with toxins than many of its counterpart farm animals. The first reason has to do with the digestive system of a pig.

A pig digests whatever it eats rather quickly, in up to about four hours. On the other hand a cow takes a good twenty-four hours to digest what it’s eaten. During the digestive process, animals (including humans) get rid of excess toxins as well as other components of the food eaten that could be dangerous to health.

Since the pig’s digestive system operates rather basically, many of these toxins remain in their system to be stored in their more than adequate fatty tissues ready for our consumption.

Another issue with the pig is that it doesn’t have any sweat glands. Sweat glands are a tool the body uses to be rid of toxins. This leaves more toxins in the pig’s body.

It takes the human body more than 6 hours to digest the smallest stake and pork eaters often eat more than just one stake per meal. Pork becomes a problem when consumed in excess and it leads to a severe back up in the digestive system. This back up can make it difficult to absorb essential micronutrients from foods (malabsorption). Over time, undigested foods will putrefy in the stomach and small intestines leading to toxicity in the body.

Pigs carry a variety of parasites in their bodies and meat. Some of these parasites are difficult to kill even when cooking. One of the biggest concerns with eating pork meat is trichinellosis or trichinosis. This is an infection that humans get from eating undercooked or uncooked pork that contains the larvae of the trichinella worm. If it enters the human body it lodges itself directly into the heart muscles and poses an immediate danger of fatal heart failure.

In fact, it’s been theorized that trichinellosis is the exact cause of Mozart’s rather sudden death at age 35. An American researcher theorized this after studying all the documents recording the days before, during, and after Mozart’s death. He found that Mozart suffered many of the above listed symptoms and he, himself, had recorded in his journal the consumption of pork just forty-four days before his own death.

Pigs carry many viruses and parasites with them. Whether by coming in direct contact with them through farms or by eating their meat we put ourselves at higher risk of getting one of these painful, often debilitating diseases (not to mention put our bodies on toxic overload.)

Pigs are primary carriers of:

• Taenia solium tapeworm
• Hepatitis E virus (HEV)
• PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
• Nipah virus
• Menangle virus

Each of these parasites and viruses can lead to serious health problems that can last for years to come.

Sources:

• Science Direct (1999)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2007)
• Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (2010)
• A few other sites.


Not you too.

Yes, undercooked pork meat is really dangerous like I mentioned above but you (deliberately?) forgotten cooked pork meat because it is dangerous too. Please read above.

Hey, you like peta.org.

I like pweeta.org

Look, we all know about illnesses one can get from eating undercooked pork.  Amazon4u's assertions are valid because after humans learn about a problem, they can fix it by being carefully to cook properly.  "The ban" on pigs was based on people having no clue about why they caused illness.  That's an ignorant 1400 year old policy.

Enough said.

I quote from :

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v66/n6/full/ejcn20126a.html


Subjects/methods:

We conducted a prospective cohort study of 51 683 Japanese (20 466 men and 31 217 women) aged 40–79 years living in all of Japan (The Japan Collaborative Cohort Study; JACC Study). Consumptions of meat (beef, pork, poultry, liver and processed meat) were assessed via a food frequency questionnaire administrated at baseline survey.




Conclusion:

Moderate meat consumption, up to ~100 g/day, was not associated with increased mortality from ischemic heart disease, stroke or total cardiovascular disease among either gender.


That translates that pork meat it's just as healthy as beef and others.


There is no rule or facts that makes articles except from nature.com is false



They made this study on 50,000 people....the study was scientific not blog articles that you can write yourself...If you want to read the whole study it costs $32 USD , because it is scientific and lot of time and resources were involved...you get it now ? Nature.com vs peta.org   That's a no brainer decision but you choose the information that the Qur'an likes ...the one where pork meat is bad for you


Like I said I don't like pork meat either, but at least I don't let others think for me....

I gave links from other websites, not verses from Qur'an or Hadiths.

We are talking about pigs not all meats. It is proved from studies that pigs are bad for health. There is no rule or facts that makes articles except from nature.com is false. Please don't expect any more replies. I may or may not reply.

Edit: He added few more lines.


My point is that you want to spread hatred but you don't know what you are talking about or is effectively inserting off-topic things. When we discuss about pig, you tell a conclusion about pig and other animals but not just pigs.

Can't you READ ? I said ONE SCIENTIFIC PAPER !  not a vegetarian blog (peta.org) with the motto : "Animals are not ours" If this is how you get your information, than we shouldn't wonder why the Qur'an is your favorite book....

SCIENTIFIC means, a paper written by SCIENTISTS, get it now  ? You find this type of information on nature.com magazines, the tests are made using clinical trials with at least two groups of participants  doing the experiment....this is how science works, clinical trials my friend....not 1400 year year old books full of fairy tales

here is something new for you to read, besides the Qur'an :

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v66/n6/full/ejcn20126a.html

Conclusion:

Moderate meat consumption, up to ~100 g/day, was not associated with increased mortality from ischemic heart disease, stroke or total cardiovascular disease among either gender.


P.S -  My point is not to convince you to eat pork ( I don't like it either, although sometimes I do eat it) but my point  is that you (Muslims) don't think for yourself, you take for granted a 1400 year old book and just follow the instructions without thinking

This is the seed of extremism, doing stuff without thinking....and your religion promotes this stuff on a daily basis.....just do what's in the Qur'an, no questions asked....this is how Islam works and this is why it's so dangerous....

These wars were fought as Muslims had no other choice other than to be non-Muslims if they want to live. If you check distance from people who fought against Muslims, you will see the distance they travelled is much greater than distance Muslims travelled. All the places where very close to Muslims habitats which also shows Muslims were forced to fight for their existence.

But what these pyschos are doing is killing hundreds and thousands of innocents which is for political gains but not for Islam and is not Islamic. They just claim it is Islamic which is not true. They created a new religion with their own set of rules.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Muhammad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad