Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 195. (Read 437390 times)

Various splintered sects of Wahhibi extremism, following teachings of Sayyad Qutd (teacher of Bin Laden) do support terrorism, don't they?

I don't think you have the RIGHT to redefine their beliefs for them.

And there's no shortage of Muslim clerics every day preaching to "Kill the Evil Joooeeees", this is well understood.

Maybe your thinking is a bit confused.  First as an athiest, you can say "these are all the ideas of men."

But that's your interpretation, not theirs.  Similarly someone here knowledgable of Islam will be quick to point out "Oh, Qutd, he was not true Islam."

So who are you to make these decisions for other people?  Make yours for you, and let them make theirs.

Radical hate preacher, Mr Anjem Choudary, wants this photo removed from the Internet.







Here are another set of images Anjem Choudary wants removed from the Internet:


Choudary at Southampton University








http://imgur.com/gallery/bt56eux


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I would not be surprised if those images will vanish, with a big [invalid link] message instead, in the future...

Saudi blogger to be publicly flogged for insulting Islam









DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) - A Saudi blogger who was sentenced last May to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes will be publicly flogged for the first time after Friday prayers outside a mosque in the Red Sea coastal city of Jiddah, a person close to his case said Thursday.

Raif Baddawi was sentenced on charges related to accusations that he insulted Islam on a liberal online forum he had created. He was also ordered by the Jiddah Criminal Court to pay a fine of 1 million Saudi riyals, or about $266,000.

Rights groups and activists say his case is part of a wider clampdown on dissent throughout the kingdom. Officials have increasingly blunted calls for reforms since the region's 2011 Arab Spring upheaval.

Badawi has been held since mid-2012, and his Free Saudi Liberals website is now closed. The case has drawn condemnation from rights groups.

He called from prison and informed his family of the flogging, due Friday, said a person close to the case. The person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity for fear of government reprisal, said Badawi was "being used as an example for others to see."

Badawi's lawyer Waleed Abul-Khair was sentenced in July to 15 years imprisonment and barred from traveling for another 15 years after being found guilty by an anti-terrorism court of "undermining the regime and officials," ''inciting public opinion" and "insulting the judiciary."

London-based rights group Amnesty International has said that Badawi is to receive 50 lashes once a week for 20 weeks.

"It is horrifying to think that such a vicious and cruel punishment should be imposed on someone who is guilty of nothing more than daring to create a public forum for discussion and peacefully exercising the right to freedom of expression," said Philip Luther, Amnesty's Middle East and North Africa director.

Badawi was originally sentenced in 2013 to seven years in prison and 600 lashes in relation to the charges, but after an appeal, the judge stiffened the punishment. Following his arrest, his wife and children left the kingdom for Canada.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the U.S. was "greatly concerned." She called the 1,000 lashes an "inhumane" response to someone exercising his right to freedom of expression and religion.

"The United States government calls on Saudi authorities to cancel this brutal punishment and to review Badawi's case and sentence," Psaki told reporters. The U.S., she said, opposes apostasy laws that restrict freedom.


http://www.myfoxny.com/story/27792055/saudi-blogger-to-be-publicly-flogged-for-insulting-islam

This is just plain untrue. Religion is supposed to be a guide for individuals. None are inherently violent or evil but all are open to interpretation.

Any individual from any religion can abuse the text to fit their own agenda. This is why religion has the potential to be so dangerous.

Islam victim of charlie attack , Islam <3 peace and didn't support terror

I guess we disagree then. I do think it's the individual. But I don't know what sect you thinks supports terrorism?
For those of us who recognize that these are ALL the ideas of men, it's easy to see. Just as people use patriotism, race, or historical events to justify their actions. It's just people killing people. Same old, same old. There is nothing holy or divine about any of it. 

Sorry, I'm still not buying into your moral equivalency.  Your argument is "It's the individual, not the religion."

No Christian sect advocates killing gays.

Many Muslim sects advocate killing gays.

Few Muslim sects support Al Queda.

MANY Muslim sects support killing all the Jews, Israelis, etc.

Etc.

RADICAL IMAM ANJEM CHOUDARY: TERRORIZING THE ENEMY IS PART OF ISLAM


http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2014/09/05/radical-imam-anjem-choudary-terrorizing-the-enemy-is-part-of-islam/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YALvN1IW16c

Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, “Whoever insults a Prophet kill him.”

However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.



http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/08/usa-today-column-why-did-france-allow-satirists-to-attack-mohammed/

Are you trying to prove the quran is as bad as the bible? Or worse than the bible? 

I agree. Almost no Christians support the westboro church either. But there are extremist Christians just as there are extremist Muslims. I have never met a Muslim who supports Al Qaeda or Dasch.  In the mid-east they are considered dangerous apostates and people are openly hostile to them.
I think some people are just full of hate. They may be from any religion or no religion. A person like that is going to look for anyone or anything that can be seen to back their views.

Okay, it is in their holy book.

But no judeo Christian sect advocates killing gays.

Again...
However, God WILL and IS punishing all who turn from His ways, while at the same time showing them great mercy in allowing them time to turn from their wicked ways.

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Excuse me?  More moral equivalence without a factual basis.

Stick to the point I made instead of misleading please.

No Judeo Christian sect advocates killing gays.  It's not in their holy book.

It is in the Muslims.

Don't know what you mean. If we don't get down to identifying the details, we will never understand what's going on.

That's the good bitch shit you're smoking.

Look, Islam doesn't hate anybody. Islam is a religion. It is words on paper call the Koran. Words on paper don't hate anybody. Only people hate. Even animals that seem to hate, are simply complex "robots" that are only simulating the appearance of hate.

All that the Koran does is to cause some kinds of metal stimulation in Muslims and others so that they activate themselves to hate at times. This is not Islam. It is people hating. And the thing that they hate more than anything else is themselves.