Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 31. (Read 437477 times)

Did yiu read the study? Sexual harassment includes men lloking at their bodies dirtily. I don't know a single woman in america or germany who has not experiences thia... there is a lot at stake in the propaganda war here... best not to truat aources, which is why I prefer 1st hand info. When I started traveling people kept telling me countries were dangerous, but I quickly learned to ignore anyone who had not been there.

   Yeah, sexual harassment is a big problem in Egypt, mostly for women who ignore Islamic guidelines, but it is as big a problem nearly everywhere else as well. Admittedly, Egyptian society is in a horrible limbo where marriage is prohibitively expensive and girlfriends are not aocially acceptable, so many men are sexually fruatrated... in a place where marriage is easier, like Somalia, this is not the case at all- also Egypt isnan incredibly senae populated area with almost everyone crowded around the Nile river, so there are a lot of groping opportunities... Egypt is so far from Islam in so many ways, it would be as absurd as saying meth addiction is a Christian problem and point to Russia and the USA.as an example.

This article tells everything you need to know about the problem of sexual harassment and rape in Egypt. It says that more than 99% of the women there experience some sort of sexual harassment:

https://dailynewsegypt.com/2013/04/28/99-3-of-gyptian-women-experienced-sexual-harassment-report/

99.3% of Egyptian women experienced sexual harassment: report

 I honestly have no idea what question I am ducking.

By the way, the data in the wikipedia covers sexual assault, not only rape, and included in this is "having a man look dirtily at your body." In this case I am pretty sure 100% of the women in the US have been sexually assaulted by this definition.

   Ok, so a 9 times higher rape rate is not evidence? And the simple reality that a the social conditions of Egypt do  not allow for rape anywhere near the scale of the US? And the fact that a high percentage of rapes involve alcohol... but you just conpletely blow over these things rather than considering them. It's like you've already had this conversation many time before and are just repeating a script.

     Really I have no sympathy or affection for Muslim Brotherhood, but you don't understand the media situation here if you think the sources you are linking are accurate. They are basically the same as me- a single person stating their belief, but somehow they are meant to be more credible since they are in an article?

   

It's depends mostly from what country they're coming from. As, I've said earlier, we have muslims here too, but they've never made any trouble at all, friendly people contributing to society just as all other people.

Please, no ducking and dodging on the question. You try to shift the goal posts, and in several amateurish ways use logical fallacies.

One of the following is true.

A) The actual incidence of rape is far higher in Egypt than the US.

B) The actual incidence of rape is far higher in the US than Egypt.

You assert B is true, but you have zero evidence to prove your assertion. Isn't it really just wishful thinking on your part?

Here's a British article about the problem of rape in Egypt.

'Anyone who hasn’t been raped is the exception': Egyptian officials accused of 'systematic' sexual violence

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11613510/Egypt-rape-and-sexual-violence-Officials-accused-of-systematic-sexual-violence.html

And here's an interesting article on the subject which shows the connection to your Egyptian "Muslim Brotherhood" bunch of gangsters.

http://humanevents.com/2014/06/18/rape-in-egypt-the-muslim-brotherhood-gets-even/

People hate islam because they are one of the most intolerant and radical religions nowadays

   As I said I am as big a critic of Egypt as anyone and it is FAR from an Islamic system, even so, again I am speaking from simple logic and first hand experience, and you are quoting a single fox news article and some random guy who happens to call himself an 'activist' who estimated with NO data whatsoever that the actual incidence is 10 times the reported incidence... which you repeat multiple times without bringing any other supporting evidence.

     1) Egypt is not ruled by Islamic law
     2) the discussion is that even the vestiges of traditional society lead to less rape than... a society where thousands og girls in miniskirts blackout drunk at keggers every single weekend
      3) anyway, I am referring not to some cultural Muslims who don't pray and have crime rates similar to other similar socioeconomic groups whether Muslim or not, but the actual legal allowance for sex with slaves and the rights of these slaves, which far exceed the rights of the millions forced into prostitution by the economic and political devastation wrought by European imperial policy- not the incidence of rape in Egypt, which although certainly and obviously much lower than the US, is still probably quite a bit higher than places like Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Afghanistan where higher degrees of gender seperation are observed, although those places may deal with other issues that are not present somewhere like Egypt.

I don't know whether they provide cars or not. But in my area, some of the people who converted to Islam were given bank loans worth around $20,000. It is not completely free, but they were given loans without any guarantee and they don't have to pay any interest (i.e interest-free loans). I asked someone how can these people afford this. He told me that the money is coming from Qatar.

Hey, if you sign up for the cult you get a car?

Lot of people will be interested in that deal.

I love you guys but i don't do that. Blame it on the car. Islam gave it too me until you give it a better name ;-)

Islam gave me a new car. I have sold it now. 1/4 of buy price. Volkswagen Polo. I think it's funny.

Nice hash guy's. Dont't bug me with the funny thing. It's not a patent.

PS: Re: Why do islam hates people? >And directly too the question. > I don't know.

Will it be interesting to once live peacefully such peoples as Christians and Muslims? To date, the enmity between these religions is obvious. But will somehow change in the future the mood in terms of belief.

You "mentioned that" and your propaganda was refuted by simple facts, available to anyone on the Internet.

Please save it for people who ARE NOT on the internet.

They might fall for those lies.

Meanwhile, an anonymous kuffer on the Internet is pleased to inform you about the actual incidence and problem of rape in your own country.

Interesting, isn't it? Did you actually think the authorities in Egypt would tell the truth about the epidemic of rape?

You "mentioned that" and your opinions/propaganda was refuted by simple facts, available to anyone on the Internet.

I have a little more pragmatic approach... terrorism, when used by non Muslims, I think is called psychological warfare. I mentioned already that the amoubt of rape and the scope and severity of rape in Islam is a huge improvement over any other system, if we viewed then holistically- I never denied that some jurists consider it lawful within specific paramaters.

    Defense is necessary for any nation, and as they say, sometimes the best defense is a good offense. It's easy to criticize, but hard to bring forth better alternatives.

Not all robbers and thieves are bad, it's just media. Look at the legend of Robin Hood, who stole from the rich and gave to the poor.

 As I said, the part where one person with no data estimates that prevalence of rape is 10x the reported rate, and then overlooking that this could be equally the case for a country like the US, which has a rape rate 9x higher than Egypt or over 3x higher per capita. Also, the first source cited on the wikipedia page is a fox news article, not exactly known for their neutrality.

    Yes, for someone who is extremely materialistic, life in most historically Muslim countries would be more dismal than life for well adjusted members of liberal democracies. Realistically, I have watched the heroin, meth, and homelessness epidemics tear through the US, and it's pretty dismal as well. You just don't see homelessness in Egypt either, or crack hos offering to perform sexual favors for 10 dollars on the street, and most people don't have to pay rent either because family cohesion is much higher.

    I am one of the first and biggest critics of Egyptian society, but your criticisms are just kind of off the mark.

Not all Muslims hate people, among them there are many good people. It's just that the society has developed an opinion that they are all bad, but it is not so.