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legendary
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June 22, 2017, 03:48:50 PM
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   Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries....

...because maybe the result in Islamic countries of a woman reporting a rape is that the police rape her?

Let's look at where a bunch of those Muslims were moved to a country where rape IS REPORTED SAFELY and see what happened, shall we?

....after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

Any other propaganda, lies or pro-Muslim nonsense you want to pull out for the benefit of your audience?

Just to be clear here. That's your Muslims you are so proud of, raping Swedish women left and right. Your people.  Now let's look back at the thread title, shall we? Why do Islam hates people?

What's your answer? Islamic rapists don't hate? They just enjoy a bit of kuffer pussy now and then?
newbie
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June 22, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Well, according to Quran Islam does hate only people who were muslims whom became enemies of islam.



Also Islam just orders to kill people who fight against Islam.



Anyway, Islam is originated by Arabs, Christianism and Judaism are originated by Israelians. These 2 races are actually releated by blood.



All of these three religions "orders to kill" actually...
hero member
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June 22, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
Islam doesn't hate people, tho it has some violence i quran it doesn't hate people, it hates the infidels, the non-belivers.

In that case, the countries which are close to 100% Muslim would be extremely peaceful and calm. But that is not the case. Look at such countries - examples are Yemen, Sudan, Mauritania, Afghanistan.etc. Almost all of these countries are suffering from conflict and  anarchy. So here the hatred is affecting everyone, and not just the "infidels".

That is true, islamic countries are as matter of rule violent and dangerous, especially for women.

However, from the outsider perspective, it is easy to focus only the fact, that muslims tend to agressive against unbelievers the most, jihad being their rallying cry.

If you look at the map of terror below, it neatly outlines areas where Islam is confronted with other cultures.



http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/images/START_GlobalTerrorismDatabase_TerroristAttacksConcentrationIntensityMap_45Years.png

   Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women? Why are there over double the violent deaths per capita in America as in Egypt, even though Egypt is in a low level civil war?

The majority of rapes involve alcohol, as does the vast majority of domestic violence, so the simple prohibition of alcohol makes the situation of women quite a lot more dangerous.


   Have you been to any of the countries you are talking about? Because I have, and I think you're a victim of propaganda. There's a lot of money to be made by convincing people to think as you think, so it would be kind of crazy not to invest in manipulating public opinion, including yours, in this direction.
hero member
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June 22, 2017, 02:08:21 PM
Islam doesn't hate people, tho it has some violence i quran it doesn't hate people, it hates the infidels, the non-belivers.

In that case, the countries which are close to 100% Muslim would be extremely peaceful and calm. But that is not the case. Look at such countries - examples are Yemen, Sudan, Mauritania, Afghanistan.etc. Almost all of these countries are suffering from conflict and  anarchy. So here the hatred is affecting everyone, and not just the "infidels".


  Have you ever been to any of these countries? I have. And I think your assessment is not very good. Care to prove me wrong? Who do you think knows more about riding a bicycle- someone who read some books about balance and peddling, or someone who has actually eiden a bike?
hero member
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June 22, 2017, 02:06:45 AM
Islam doesn't hate people, tho it has some violence i quran it doesn't hate people, it hates the infidels, the non-belivers.

In that case, the countries which are close to 100% Muslim would be extremely peaceful and calm. But that is not the case. Look at such countries - examples are Yemen, Sudan, Mauritania, Afghanistan.etc. Almost all of these countries are suffering from conflict and  anarchy. So here the hatred is affecting everyone, and not just the "infidels".

That is true, islamic countries are as matter of rule violent and dangerous, especially for women.

However, from the outsider perspective, it is easy to focus only the fact, that muslims tend to agressive against unbelievers the most, jihad being their rallying cry.

If you look at the map of terror below, it neatly outlines areas where Islam is confronted with other cultures.



http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/images/START_GlobalTerrorismDatabase_TerroristAttacksConcentrationIntensityMap_45Years.png
legendary
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June 22, 2017, 01:38:55 AM
Islam doesn't hate people, tho it has some violence i quran it doesn't hate people, it hates the infidels, the non-belivers.

In that case, the countries which are close to 100% Muslim would be extremely peaceful and calm. But that is not the case. Look at such countries - examples are Yemen, Sudan, Mauritania, Afghanistan.etc. Almost all of these countries are suffering from conflict and  anarchy. So here the hatred is affecting everyone, and not just the "infidels".
hero member
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June 22, 2017, 01:21:59 AM
And what some more EX muslims think about ISLAM..
They should know what islam is like.

Ray of Sunshine1 year ago (edited)

I was born into a Muslim family but since I was a teenager I have been doubting religion. I don't like religion because it puts labels on people (Muslim vs Jews vs Christians). Why do we need this label? At the end of the day we are one - we are all humans (we are the same).  The second reason why I don't like religion is because it sounds made up and mythical, and people are encouraged to believe these mythical stories are true otherwise they go to "hell" (which I also don't believe in). This therefore causes lots of trouble in this world, such as war and disagreements.
I don't believe in capital G God or Allah, if there is any controlling force out there. There could be something but I just deny it. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I also don't fast or pray or follow any religious trends. I'm done with it.
Anyone else feel the same way? Anyone else denying religion? I just don't believe in it. Whatever you believe in I won't judge you - I am done with judgment.
 
 
Dyed Fox1 year ago
I left Islam 2 years ago, all the friends i had hated me for being an apostate. That itself proves how evil Islam is, dividing families and friends just because a sand dwelling pedophile said Allah is watching you.



SO who is lying ? ..I would believe someone who once believed in islam what it's like?.

I mean it's like a bricklayer telling you not to do something because it's not good for your home..
You would listen to them because they do study brickwork ..

Well the same goes for EX muslims they do have experience of ISLAM..

They was born into islam and now they hate it WHY if it's so good?.. 


On the contrary everyone can change its religion if someone feels that they are not into it.  I know some Catholic who become muslim after residing in muslim country.  So change as they say is inebitable even if you grow on that religion since we have different perspective in life.
Nice, just don't answer the question.

Hypocrisy or ignorance. Hypocrites make the religion look bad. Ignorance or taking things oit of context can also make it look bad, as with any good thing.
hero member
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June 22, 2017, 01:19:12 AM
Religions are not the real causes are just a motive for those who are inferiors and feeling conceitedly.The need to feel and join a group like I.S.I.S comes from xenophobia, insecurity, fear, and complexity. All these feelings are fought by education.

    The diffetence between education and brainwashing is simply whether you agree with the content or not.

Bah.

The difference between education and brainwashing can be simply found by looking at the definitions of the words.

To be more thorough, look at the reference for each in wikipedia.





    I checked it out. One of the key components of brainwashing is that it introduces "unwanted" thoughts into the subject. So if the thoughts are wanted, I guess it wouldn't be brainwashing then would it? What would you call it in such a case? Programming, perhaps?

That's all you got from checking it out? Well, I guess a medieval mindset may be slow to comprehend modern concepts. At least you are trying.

Programming people to do what a ruler wants has been important for thousands of years. Whatever warlord did the best job of figuring that out was likely to win wars. Particularly important was ways of convincing men to kill themselves for The Cause. Whatever the Cause was would be figured out according to the King's wishes at the moment.

Brainwashing as a science is a 20th century phenomena, though.



  Comforting to see you continue to resort to insults rather than actually confront the issues. Your denigration of medieval times is understandable since you are probably ethnically European. I am too, so I know my anceators had a hard time of it in Europe in the middle ages, due in no.small part to poor hygiene, alcoholism, and extreme ignorance in fields like medicine, until medical textbooks written by Muslims helped Europe to come out of this difficult phase. I can understand why you would be acting out an inferioritt complex based in that hereditary shame. As a European Muslim, I've moved beyond this and I invite you to do so as well.

     If you look a little deeper into history, particularly the history of ideas, you will find all modern ideas have antecedents. For example, people have been using killing of non combatants to achieve political aims in psychological warfare for millenia, but only recently has the term 'terrorism' been coined.

     In fact, the key to understanding most modern ideas on a fundamental level is to understand their historical context.

   To reduce armed struggle to mere hedonism or self interest on the part of autocrats is correct in some circumstances, but this overlooks the numerous popular and ideologically motivated liberation struggles in history.

   For example, we can better understand secularism if we understand the background of the wars of the Reformation in Europe, and how Holland, by reclaiming land from the ocean, was able to establish a state ruled by a merchant oligarchy outside of the rigid and established order of the traditional aristocracy. This necessitated a theological alternative to the Catholic orthodoxy, since the doctrine, as you pointed out, necessitated blind service to the elite which ultimately was not in the rational best self interest of many subjects. Puritanism harnessed the power of religious belief, but by claiming a more authentic application of Holy scripture, it simultaneously provided the ideological backdrop for a popular uprising against the church- why do think heresy was punished so severely?

     Secularism was viewed as a way to transcend the cycles of religious violence, but nearly all of its core principle were drawn from Christianity, and these principles came to govern the nature of state and government, and the institutional landscape of the modern state grew largely out of a (very violent) process of compromise between the church, the merchant class, and the aristocracy, by which more power and status was given to the merchant and artisan classes.

    As such, principles such as the European variant of human rights, which form the orthox doctrine, as it were, of modern secularism, are deeply rooted in Christian theology.

    What I am trying to say, is that one must understand the medieval mindset in order to truly understand modern ideas.

       Prisons are a mind control technology.
hero member
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June 21, 2017, 08:31:41 PM
Islam doesn't hate people, tho it has some violence i quran it doesn't hate people, it hates the infidels, the non-belivers. And for you to ask that is probably coming from the islamic terrorist attacks. Well all those lands are war torn and destroyed, so they're pretty much seeking revenge. It's just religion 100%
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
  I know some Catholic who become muslim after residing in muslim country.

Sounds to me they thought they better change or they will get picked on?..

I mean if everyone walked around with a peg on the nose i suppose that Catholic would be putting
a peg on the nose..
They would    because they moved to a place where everyone had a peg on the nose they would also be wearing a peg on the nose to FIT IN ..
And why do you want to fit in?      YES to not get picked on pointed at stared at laughed at and mocked
for not wearing a peg on the nose because everyone else does..

But not me i think what's the point in putting a peg on your nose.. Grin

legendary
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June 21, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
And what some more EX muslims think about ISLAM..
They should know what islam is like.

Ray of Sunshine1 year ago (edited)

I was born into a Muslim family but since I was a teenager I have been doubting religion. I don't like religion because it puts labels on people (Muslim vs Jews vs Christians). Why do we need this label? At the end of the day we are one - we are all humans (we are the same).  The second reason why I don't like religion is because it sounds made up and mythical, and people are encouraged to believe these mythical stories are true otherwise they go to "hell" (which I also don't believe in). This therefore causes lots of trouble in this world, such as war and disagreements.
I don't believe in capital G God or Allah, if there is any controlling force out there. There could be something but I just deny it. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I also don't fast or pray or follow any religious trends. I'm done with it.
Anyone else feel the same way? Anyone else denying religion? I just don't believe in it. Whatever you believe in I won't judge you - I am done with judgment.
 
 
Dyed Fox1 year ago
I left Islam 2 years ago, all the friends i had hated me for being an apostate. That itself proves how evil Islam is, dividing families and friends just because a sand dwelling pedophile said Allah is watching you.



SO who is lying ? ..I would believe someone who once believed in islam what it's like?.

I mean it's like a bricklayer telling you not to do something because it's not good for your home..
You would listen to them because they do study brickwork ..

Well the same goes for EX muslims they do have experience of ISLAM..

They was born into islam and now they hate it WHY if it's so good?.. 


On the contrary everyone can change its religion if someone feels that they are not into it.  I know some Catholic who become muslim after residing in muslim country.  So change as they say is inebitable even if you grow on that religion since we have different perspective in life.
Nice, just don't answer the question.
hero member
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June 21, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
And what some more EX muslims think about ISLAM..
They should know what islam is like.

Ray of Sunshine1 year ago (edited)

I was born into a Muslim family but since I was a teenager I have been doubting religion. I don't like religion because it puts labels on people (Muslim vs Jews vs Christians). Why do we need this label? At the end of the day we are one - we are all humans (we are the same).  The second reason why I don't like religion is because it sounds made up and mythical, and people are encouraged to believe these mythical stories are true otherwise they go to "hell" (which I also don't believe in). This therefore causes lots of trouble in this world, such as war and disagreements.
I don't believe in capital G God or Allah, if there is any controlling force out there. There could be something but I just deny it. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I also don't fast or pray or follow any religious trends. I'm done with it.
Anyone else feel the same way? Anyone else denying religion? I just don't believe in it. Whatever you believe in I won't judge you - I am done with judgment.
 
 
Dyed Fox1 year ago
I left Islam 2 years ago, all the friends i had hated me for being an apostate. That itself proves how evil Islam is, dividing families and friends just because a sand dwelling pedophile said Allah is watching you.



SO who is lying ? ..I would believe someone who once believed in islam what it's like?.

I mean it's like a bricklayer telling you not to do something because it's not good for your home..
You would listen to them because they do study brickwork ..

Well the same goes for EX muslims they do have experience of ISLAM..

They was born into islam and now they hate it WHY if it's so good?.. 

On the contrary everyone can change its religion if someone feels that they are not into it.  I know some Catholic who become muslim after residing in muslim country.  So change as they say is inebitable even if you grow on that religion since we have different perspective in life.
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 02:23:01 PM
And what some more EX muslims think about ISLAM..
They should know what islam is like.

Ray of Sunshine1 year ago (edited)

I was born into a Muslim family but since I was a teenager I have been doubting religion. I don't like religion because it puts labels on people (Muslim vs Jews vs Christians). Why do we need this label? At the end of the day we are one - we are all humans (we are the same).  The second reason why I don't like religion is because it sounds made up and mythical, and people are encouraged to believe these mythical stories are true otherwise they go to "hell" (which I also don't believe in). This therefore causes lots of trouble in this world, such as war and disagreements.
I don't believe in capital G God or Allah, if there is any controlling force out there. There could be something but I just deny it. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I also don't fast or pray or follow any religious trends. I'm done with it.
Anyone else feel the same way? Anyone else denying religion? I just don't believe in it. Whatever you believe in I won't judge you - I am done with judgment.
 
 
Dyed Fox1 year ago
I left Islam 2 years ago, all the friends i had hated me for being an apostate. That itself proves how evil Islam is, dividing families and friends just because a sand dwelling pedophile said Allah is watching you.



SO who is lying ? ..I would believe someone who once believed in islam what it's like?.

I mean it's like a bricklayer telling you not to do something because it's not good for your home..
You would listen to them because they do study brickwork ..

Well the same goes for EX muslims they do have experience of ISLAM..

They was born into islam and now they hate it WHY if it's so good?.. 
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
I am islam, I do not hate everyone, I am a haters but I just hate people who do evil to me and hurt my heart. I do not hate people based on religion and where they come from. But I hate people because of their nature to me and those close to me.
yes slam do not hate people but in fact is the people who want to defame Islam otherwise Islam is a peaceful religion and you just need to study about  then you will understand the fact about Islam.
I think you need to listen to one of your EX followers ..
She seen the light and become an earth sister Wink..

I BET YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ..Your STUMPED by your own KIND Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

AND IS SHE A LIAR ?..Does she lie about the KORAN?..I.E ISLAM is she a liar about ISLAM?..

No you wont say nothing because YOU KNOW she speaks the TRUTH..

Excellent: Ex-muslim Woman Speaks the Truth About Islam - YouTube
Video for ex muslim woman▶ 8:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVQETclhps
sr. member
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June 21, 2017, 01:49:16 PM
I am islam, I do not hate everyone, I am a haters but I just hate people who do evil to me and hurt my heart. I do not hate people based on religion and where they come from. But I hate people because of their nature to me and those close to me.
yes slam do not hate people but in fact is the people who want to defame Islam otherwise Islam is a peaceful religion and you just need to study about  then you will understand the fact about Islam.
sr. member
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June 21, 2017, 10:08:34 AM
Fuck organized religion.

I tally agree for you.

Ever tried a burka in the sun ? So nobody would recognise you.. The government.

Thomas.
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
Religions are not the real causes are just a motive for those who are inferiors and feeling conceitedly.The need to feel and join a group like I.S.I.S comes from xenophobia, insecurity, fear, and complexity. All these feelings are fought by education.

    The diffetence between education and brainwashing is simply whether you agree with the content or not.

Bah.

The difference between education and brainwashing can be simply found by looking at the definitions of the words.

To be more thorough, look at the reference for each in wikipedia.





    I checked it out. One of the key components of brainwashing is that it introduces "unwanted" thoughts into the subject. So if the thoughts are wanted, I guess it wouldn't be brainwashing then would it? What would you call it in such a case? Programming, perhaps?

That's all you got from checking it out? Well, I guess a medieval mindset may be slow to comprehend modern concepts. At least you are trying.

Programming people to do what a ruler wants has been important for thousands of years. Whatever warlord did the best job of figuring that out was likely to win wars. Particularly important was ways of convincing men to kill themselves for The Cause. Whatever the Cause was would be figured out according to the King's wishes at the moment.

Brainwashing as a science is a 20th century phenomena, though.

legendary
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June 21, 2017, 08:16:12 AM
I am islam, I do not hate everyone, I am a haters but I just hate people who do evil to me and hurt my heart. I do not hate people based on religion and where they come from. But I hate people because of their nature to me and those close to me.
hero member
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June 21, 2017, 07:57:29 AM
They not actually hate people, they want to fight for their pride. They want to spread their religion to know who they are, to know what's their fighting for. Islam want to create their own world. They want to follow their testaments.

What sort of pride you are talking about? By beheading innocent people, by enslaving poor Yazidi women, by committing mass genocide, how are they maintaining their pride? If they want to spread their religion, then it is fine with me. But they should do that by peaceful means. Using force to achieve religious expansion can only result in confrontation with the non-Muslims.

   1) Journalism and aid work, if you have even a rudimentary understanding of international politics, can simply not be neutral- nor can citizenship with nation states. Also, there are far more victims of Western economic policies who die much more miserable protracted deaths than are caused by Muslims, but since the mechanism of killing them is less direct and less honest (and overlooked by the media.owned by the same groups) somehow it is not demonized in the main stream.

     2) Economic slavery caused by Western economic policy again, has driven millions of women into prostitution where the women have far less rights and are forced to have unwanted sex with far more men just to survive, but again since this is indirect somehow it is more morally okay?

       3) The NATO powers are using the utterly false notion that their form of political organization is viable for the whole world in order to justify the maintenance of an international order of extreme and pervasive injustice which is maintained where necessary by the violent killing of literally millions of people- and yet somehow a few tens of thousands killed by some resistance group trying to challenge this are totally evil. It's really embarassing that people fall for this shallow propaganda. It would be amazing if people were able to apply their moral standards consistently.
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 12:57:23 AM
They not actually hate people, they want to fight for their pride. They want to spread their religion to know who they are, to know what's their fighting for. Islam want to create their own world. They want to follow their testaments.

What sort of pride you are talking about? By beheading innocent people, by enslaving poor Yazidi women, by committing mass genocide, how are they maintaining their pride? If they want to spread their religion, then it is fine with me. But they should do that by peaceful means. Using force to achieve religious expansion can only result in confrontation with the non-Muslims.
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