Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 30. (Read 437390 times)

Since you are from India i am sure we are hearing about political unrest and the safety of the common man,since the government is ruled by a former leader who killed masses and never went to trail ,these things are happening again,i am hearing about mob lynching in the news all the time,are those criminals sent to jail,they are targeting people from a particular cast and religion because they do not worship cow it seems.

I am in India and I don't see any "war" between Muslim & nom-Muslim. But a fight between "Muslim" and others does happen. I just have to clarify one thing and that is just because someone claim to be Muslim doesn't mean they follow Islam. I have seen many who calls themselves as Muslims, but don't do anything Islam says or do partially! Just because some do bad/worst things, don't mean everyone are bad!

Muslims are at war with all the non-Muslim groups, and not just against the Christians. They are at war with Hindus in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia. They are also at war with Buddhists in Thailand and Myanmar. What more, they are at war even with the Yazidis in Syria and Iraq.

I agree with you that Islam is only a shield to cover up the crimes committed by terrorists,

I guess the idea of hate in connection to islam is wrong. Those people who brings chaos into our world carrying the Islam as their religion and faith causes the damages. But the thing is, they are just destroying the main purpose of Islam. To generalize Islam as a hater of people is absurd, The fact that most of terrorists claiming that this is how Islam works. Terrorists doesn't have any religion and it is wrong to justify that all terrorists are Islams by faith.

It's not a general thing. If they hated all people we would be all in war. Just specific groups that are against them.

It seems to me that the Muslim Marat people of the Christians will never live peacefully. The fact is that all this hatred and Propaganda against each other, makes a very huge gulf, not only between religions but also between human relations. If they already start killing each other in such a brazen way that I think that I will not have to hope for something good.

Islam just orders to kill people who fight against Islam.

If we put the question that if there were no Muslims on the planet, as if there would not be terrorism, a comma is still wrong. To date, terrorist organizations not only exist in the Islamic world. The fact is that only the radical wing of Muslims is very strongly opposed to the bulk of humanity. So I do not think that it's only because of this that you need to hate all Muslims and also. There's nothing to hate all people just for the fact that they are of a different faith.

That is the problem, isn't it? People should have the freedom to practice whatever religion they like. Forcible conversion tactics are used by both Muslims and Christians. Muslims use this tactic openly, while the Christians are much more careful with it.

Religion is to restrain the free and loose people, this is their a rule, so that they have constraints, it can be said to control them. This is my personal understanding.

I think not all islam hates people, maybe some few of them not.  but mostly, they just wanted only  that every people in the whole
world will become like them they want people  to be convert into their religion beliefs. That's what I thought and thinking about it.

   Whoa, I never denied it, I simply pointed out the problem appears to be roughly half as bad as america so if your issue is wanting to protect women you can do your crusade against america.

They aren't hate people they want to spread their religion. Unfortunately, all terrorist are Muslim(90% chance) but Muslim are terrorist. It is based where they are live based what plan of the leader that they want. They want to have their own they not want other people to become leader. They want to have a President that are Muslim. As i know they believe that if they kill more people is better when they are in 2nd life so killing is normal for they and also more better.

Not even Al Jazeera agrees with you, lol...

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/17/egypt-still-has-asexualassaultproblem.html

I don't think Islam hates people, infact Islam means peace. The problem is that most terror attacks is from an islamic terrorist gruop who just wanted to devastate other people's lives and that makes Islam look bad nowadays. I am not saying that Christianity is also bad, Christianity is more focused on love and that is a good thing but ever wonder why there a lot of christian denomination? and did you ever wonder why there are muslim terrorist? It is because of people having different interpretation or understanding of the bible or the quran and that gor me is the beginning of a problem.

"Ducking & dodging", huh...!!!

P.S. Why bring westerners here? I haven't mentioned any certain person or group here, much less westerners.

   Oh, so the question I am ducking is a completely false statement... that explains why I didn't know. The actual prevalence of rape could also be roughly equivalent.


Let's review.

   The reported rapes in Egypt are 20,000 a year. You cited a source, which was a single individual saying they thought it was actually 10 times that.

    The reported rapes in the US are between 170,000-180,000 per year.

This number comes out to 5.5 rapes per year per 10,000 people.

In Egypt the number would be 2.1 rapes per 10,000 people.

   Going only by official statistics, rape is 2.61 times more common in the United States than Egypt.

So the question is only how severe underreporting is. And so far the only source you brough, I'll point out again, is one person who, frankly, pulled the number out of their colon that it is underreported by a factor of 10.

Rape in the US is also vastly underreported.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/rape-study-report-america-us_n_4310765.html

   This article cites a report by the national center for disease control which counted 1.3 million incidents, which would mean that there are 7 times more rapes than are actually reported.

    Even if your single activist's number pulled out of thin air is accurate, and there are 10 times the number of reported rapes in Egypt, and in the US there are only 7 times more, this would make the numbers as follows.

    The US would have 40 rapes per 10,000 people.

   Egypt would have 21 rapes per 10,000 people.

  Which is roughly consistent with what I would expect having lived in both countries.


   Also, the rape rate is much lower in Saudi Arabia- which is unsurprising since opportunities for rape are much more restricted than in Egypt- gender segregation is much more pronounced... although Saudi Arabia also has tons of horrible problems, again, from going against Islam, not because of implementing it, but that's another topic.

    The original question was simply if Muslim majority countries are hostile to women. Western societies do have certain advantages, and I will readily admit Muslim countries are in shambles. However, Muslim societies also have many advantages for women, including more respect and inclusion for women as they age, closer family support, more acceptance and respect for women who choose to focus on being wives and mothers. You can call pressuring a woman to stay at home and not go out without her husband or a male relative a form of oppression, but it is undeniable that a woman who follows these rules will also face far less sexual harassment than a woman who walks around on the street alone.


  Also, in Muslim countries a woman can wear the headscarf, a hijab, without harassment since it is more common.


https://youtu.be/K6uR0A9cC5Y

  This is a link to an experiment where a woman walked aroind New York city both with and without headscarf- and even her 'Islamic' clothing is still far more sexy and revealing than the actual proper Islamic clothing. The difference is very pronounced, with much less harassment.

   Access to education for women is very high in Egypt, and female professionals are very common. Sure, there are some advantages in the west, but a lot of these advantages in the long run turn into disadvantages- for example, women are able to wear more revealing clothing, but this can lead to women being valued for their appearance more than their character, which in turn causes women to be less valued as they grow older.

    The problem is that the metrics of progress have been designed from the very outset by the west in order to showcase their superiority. If I were to choose another set of metrics I could also prove that Muslim countries are superior. Which metrics a person deems to be most relevant depends on their values.

     

Apparently it takes ignorant western kuffers to explain to YOU, the understanding of the Koran that in fact does lead to extremist terrorist actions.

These understandings are not "wrong" and they are not "mistaken." They are certainly at variance with your preferred interpretation. Think about it. You don't need to argue with western kuffers over what they have said. You need to argue with your violent Muslim extremist wackos and tell them where they are wrong.

Please let us know what they say.

Lol...