Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 42. (Read 437390 times)

Sorry, the bolded does not logically follow from the preceding premises. Of course the premises are ridiculous, but that's a separate point and you've qualified them by "if you were to consider..."

Generally speaking the Muslim countries show the most abject poverty, ignorance and corruption of those in this world, and it's quite clear why.

Your vilification of Westerners is quite interesting, and you show many characteristics of being indoctrinated with propaganda. It reminds me of the systematic policy the Germans had toward the Jews starting several years before World War II. Their propaganda machines continually made the Jews look like vile, smelly, despicable and unhealthy creatures. This was of course to drum up prejudice and to stereotype the "enemy" as evil. It was calculated and intentional. Similarly you depict the caricatured Westerner, don't you?

I find it a bit curious that you'd denigrate the stereotyped Westerner by asserting that he or she is "dirty" because they use toilet paper instead of washing their behinds like "practicing Muslims" do. The reason is that your own holy books tell your people to clean their behinds with five stones. So which is the "practicing Muslim" and which is "dirty?"

Can show some fatwa that clears this stink up?

        http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658361216000238

   I don't put a whole lot of stock in western medicine since falling into a model of for profit healthcare where treating symptoms and leaving underlying problems unresolved in order to ensure repeat business is a pretty big pitfall- not to mention that theories accepted into orthodoxy are often disproved every so often... for example, the idea that margarine or vegetable based shortening is healthier than animal fats was part of orthodoxy, and has now fallen out of favor. Anyway, suffice to say that something being a doctrine in western medicine is far from it being an immutable and established fact. There is, quite simply, a great deal that western empirical methods are unable to grasp as of yet. Camel urine would probably not be an ideal cure all, but rather is prescribed in specific situations. Urine is generally sterile anyway. I would be interested to learn more about this topic if you would like to discuss it.

   As for the caliphate, if you were to consider that the Quran is truly a revelation from the creator of the universe and a guidance for how best to live collectively as human beings on the earth, of course it would be preferable to have a unified political order on the earth based on these teachings. However, other prophecies tell us that this will not actually happen until the end times, and no one really knows when this will be, so by the time that occurs these concerns will probably have been eclipsed by many other events.

    You are right actually, it is unfair to say non-Muslims, as Hindus also use water to clean after going to the toilet along with people of many other religions, just where I have lived most of my life in America and Europe it is common for non Muslims to only clean with toilet paper and walk around all day like this... I used to do this myself so I know how uncomfortable this is, occasionally I get stuck without water so I know how it feels. Honestly I don't know how y'all live like this...

  Also practicing Muslims will brush their teeth with a siwak, a tree root which is naturally anti bacterial, after every meal, whereas it is common for non-Muslims or less practicing Muslims to walk around all day with their teeth covered with food scum, or to brush the teeth with plastic covered with weird fluoridated concoctions mixed with artificial sweeteners that are probably carcinogenic. Non-Muslims also often go through the whole day without flushing their sinuses with water, and often let dogs lick them, dogs that like to roll in and eat long dead animals and feces... just, little things like these just could make some Muslims hesitant to be very close to non-Muslims.

   There are other deeper spiritual reasons but it is less likely that they would be well understood, but I'd be happy to get into what little I know of that if anyone is interested.

  Another practical reason is the sexual promiscuity, this can easily lead to higher and higher thresholds for sexual pleasure as people become more and more desensitized to sexual stimulation by excessive exposure, which actually leads to people needing to be literally "dirtier" so to speak in order to get off... it goes on and on.

That sort of behavior is not unique to the Muslims. A lot of fanatical Christians have told me that if I don't believe in Jesus Christ, then I'd go to hell. They have also told me that the Hindu golds whom I worship are demons. For me, Islam and Christianity sounds like two sides of the same coin.

I don't think they do. They are just teached from their birth to respect only people who believe in their religion. This leads to discrimination against other people who believe in other gods.

Now do you really, really want to keep lecturing Westerners about "proper hygiene?" Because we're fixing to get into biochemistry here.

May I suggest a different topic?

Why don't you give us the devout Islamic point of view about the Islamic Caliphate taking over the entire world? Is that what you believe? Many Muslims do.

Complex people? All people are complex. Let's not cut the Muslim some slack based on some vague apology like that.

Muslims are trying to redefine "hygenic" based on some medievel concepts.  No different than they prattle on about the benefits of drinking camel urine, and yes, they do. That's also "hygenic" to the Muslim.

What does modern science say about the practice of drinking camel urine?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Camel_Urine_and_Islam

Islam Q and A states that the benefits of camel urine have been well known to earlier generations of medical science and have been proven by modern scientific research. The problem with their assertion is most of the scientists who are promoting camel urine as a medical cure are Muslim. However the drinking of camel urine is part of an alternative medicine movement called urine therapy and the American Cancer Society’s position is that scientific evidence does not support individual claims that urine or urea given in any form is helpful for cancer patients and that the safety of urine therapy has not been confirmed by scientific studies.

Also camel urine was found to cause a significant cytotoxic effect in the bone marrow cells of mice,,,,,

In fact, the drinking of camel urine by Muslims is the likely origin of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (MERS) and WHO has advised against drinking it.

Conclusion
Muhammad prescribed camel urine as medicine to his followers from the tribe of Uraynah. Because Muslims believed Muhammad to be a prophet who received a divine revelation, they continue to prescribe camel urine as medicine despite the lack of evidence proving there is any medicinal value in camel urine and indications that drinking camel urine is actually harmful.

Body hygiene and cutting off some parts are completely different concepts. Millions of people live and feel fine without this painful procedure.

Muslim children are also very strongly influenced by religion, Vegera, even in that they are very much trying to look like adults or even imitate them to be proud of. Islam and Muslims are very complex people, but I believe that not all are as bad as they say in society.

I think there's a big difference between maiming your kids and keeping them hygienic. It's not really just for religious purposes but it is cleaner for male children to get circumcised.

Yes, I am also for the prohibition of such a procedure. This in many cases maims young children and they can not protect themselves against such barbaric treatment.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

I'm sure a medical definition would do fine.

yeah I don't there there's any difference now with how people do hygiene. I mean it's the 21st century and I don't think most practices that were done in the past are still being done today whatever religion people are in.

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

Their definition of hygiene differs from mine and yours. For example, they regard uncircumcised penis as extremely unhygienic. This is ridiculous. Have you ever heard about people getting disease because their foreskin remains attached to the penis?

Muslims eat a lot of spicy food and so they each time after using the toilet wash their Asses. I have not heard about the bricks. I hate them for their arrogance. For me a typical Muslim is the one that you showed in the video in my other post.

Anyone can read the bolded sections and decide for themselves who is insulting and inflammatory without actually examining the facts.

Frankly you sound to me as very naive, egotistical and agenda driven. Which is fine, except it isn't a way to increase understanding of matters.

  This depends a lot on where you live but I presume it's the west, in which case most of the Muslims you know are probably not very practising... Islam and Muslims are two VERY different things, and most of the troubling things about Muslims are due to non adherence to Islam, not the opposite.

Certainly not sure that I am better than anyone, didn't say that either... hygiene isn'the everything you know, good manners areally more important. Stones could be used I guess if there was no water. This is kind of personal but for example I used to think it was normal for women's vaginas to smell fishy... but it's not with proper hygiene.