Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 48. (Read 437477 times)

If it is the people who do the evil and not the book that suggests it, then WHY ARE BOOKS BANNED?  Muslims would like to argue that the Koran is without fault, but people may be flawed.  Nothing can be the fault of the book.  But they are the first in the world to ban books of all sort.




Here is a story about 420 books that Saudi Arabia has banned.

http://www.thenational.ae/world/saudi-arabia/saudi-bans-books-at-fair-in-wide-ranging-crackdown

Censorship and Persecution in the Name of Islam

http://www.aina.org/news/20070108191217.htm

Yes, a very wise point of view, I agree

It's because they are humans. For as much as the OP says that Christianity or Budhism are open to other people, I've gone to website where the people are obsessed with their religion. Christian websites, not Budhism. And these people feel special and entitled, and HATE blacks, jews, etc. Anyone that's not like them. And they think they are going to heaven. So it's just a cause of human stupidity.

This is an often repeated concept.  However if it is true, then are the following also true?

I did not hate Mein Kamf, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Marquis de Sade's Justine, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Das Kapital, it is the people who misuses it...

Why isn't the book or set of teachings responsible for the errors or crimes of those who follow it?

Let me give a simple example.  There is a common law, that when driving if you run into someone from behind it is your fault.  But we all know there are many cases where it is not your fault.  Someone in front of the car in front of you ran into another car.  This called the car in front of you to be wrecked, and then your car.

We accept this as a consequence of having the law and perhaps  the idea that more good than bad comes from it.  But nobody will say only good comes from it....

I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it.  We know who they are it is the ISIS and the Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.  They are both Muslims and their ways are really terrible.  They are using their religion Islam to make validation on their horrible acts.  They would say that they do that because it was the teachings of their religion but after the kidnappings you will see that they were asking for ransom.

Well, I don't have any problem with your suggestions.  Think about it.  You are suggesting that someone the likes of I (an atheist, Kaffir, unbeliever) should "guide them."

At this point, then, who laughs, and who cries?

There are a lot of things I don't like about Islam, but when you say "Islam is boodthirsty", it sounds like you mean all of Muslims, about 1.7 billion of them.

Prophet Muhammad had a few very different tones of voice during his public life: in the Quran they can be divided between Meccan or Medinan sourah. On one side you have the non-tolerant, the strict, the agressive militant sourah (Medinan), and on the other side you have the softer, tolerant, peaceful and humanist text (Meccan), all part of the same Quran, and assembled in disorder just to make things more difficult to understand (http://www.missionislam.com/quran/revealationorder.htm)


As a Muslim, it is their choice to pick the humanist side and focus on the peaceful Meccan sourah, and it's perfectly "Islamic" to do so. We have to guide them toward this part of their own religion and so they give less importance to the aggressive text, also part of the Quran.

Just my opinion.

Not only did I understand your point, but I gave you an actual comparable against which you can compare (Your choice, remember) the Inquisition (your choice) "the worst of Christianity" to ISIS.

Let's not try to duck and dodge the issue by saying they are different phenomena.

Let's confront it head on, with the resulting conclusion that Islam today is remarkably bloodthirsty, even compared to the worst of Christianity of the past.  And compared to Christianity or any other religion today, it is quite unique in this respect.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Your point is that the worst of Christianity doesn't even come close to the regular stuff of Islam?

Haha I wont go comparing the numbers as these are very different phenomenons, but I think you understand my point.

This is a scary thought that moderate and free western Muslims don't want any more than we do...

I really think imams in mosques should tell their local population's women not to wear the Hijab so Islam is more easily accepted.  The Hijab is very provocative to us westerners.

I see a lot of Muslims on here saying that christian's did terrible things in the past ..
Now this is the problem we in the west don't believe in gods we know it to be fairy tales..

So imagine if christian's in the 21st century started acting like Islam..
Run in a shop OH JESUS YOU ARE GREAT... BOOM...Shopping mall blew to bits..
Do you think us westerners would all be happy about this? NO WE WOULD NOT BE HAPPY..
We want them punished just as much as Islamist terrorist..
Because we know what your doing in the name of religion I.E fairy tales makes no sense what so ever. Not in the 21st century..

This is the difference between Muslims and Christians..VIDEO FUNNY BUT TRUE..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JapMUBhTT8..

What happened in the past stays in the past..
We westerners hate ISLAM it breaks all our laws of the way we live..

But i suppose you think Islam will take over the world
Hmmm you could be right if our politicians keep taking money off Islam to build all these mosques while letting in hundreds of thousands in our lands to fill these mosques around our towns and cities..

And while we take and build Islam in our nations the politicians are drinking wine and eating lobster
off the back hander's from Islam..
Then one day there is a loud bang on there door and a Muslim is standing there telling him to put a burka on his wife and daughter or they will whip his wife and child in the street..
But the politician thinks fuck this i am off and flees to another country while leaving the rest of us in the shit..YES Tony Blair the rat..
Now it might never come to this BUT..I bet the Jews thought the same about the Christians..
No those Christians wont be a bigger religion than us..Then look what happened..WAR WAR WAR..

This video is the funniest 1..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hN1vY-ICsE

If the worst of Christianity is the Inquisition and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Hundreds of years of deaths in the Inquisition are matched by ISIS and radical Islam in three months.

How about that?

The easiest way to find excuses for their crimes saying that the blame religion. Where have you seen in the scriptures, the Koran, the Talmud, it is written there, go and kill ?! Blaming the Arabs, Turks and other peoples. Personally, you thereby strengthens hatred. You can not blame a religion or a nation as a whole. You must be punished separately for each person for what he has done.

Stubborn people! Not faith in Allah, Jehovah, Christ, Buddha and other gods, encourages people to kill. Remember the Crusades in Europe. How much was spilled blood. Jesus, in these cases, no one accused. The gods did not kill .. The gods are not forced to kill. People kill and are forced to kill other people. Stupid people who imagined themselves to be gods.

That is some real Long time back. I think Islam should start to accept more religions next to their own. And of Course stop the violence.

People have faith on such things that comes out of nowhere. I'm not here to blame any of the religious activist groups to determine the cruelty of their activities but do want to claim is that we've people have grown selfish and want to impose our thoughts on others without even listening or analyzing others thoughts which to some extent can be truthful and valid.

For the worst of Christianity, we have to go back in time a little bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

If the worst of Christianity is the Jehovah's and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Given them ?

How about you, buddy.  You yourself give them stuff.  Don't speak for others.

thank you Noojna for displaying common sense