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August 26, 2016, 09:04:59 PM
Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.

In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.

I don't know about that.  I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country.

http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/

Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta.

Should this man have been freed?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfield

freed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck.
Muslim way.
legendary
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August 26, 2016, 07:45:08 PM
Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.

In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.

I don't know about that.  I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country.

http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/

Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta.

Should this man have been freed?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfield
legendary
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August 26, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.

In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.

The problem isn't with weak Muslims, like you. The problem is with strong Muslims who obey the Koran, like ISIS. As _Django05_ says:
why Islam hate people? because of their idiotic beliefs. Have you ever wondered why most of the terrorists came from Islam? because their holy-book told them so.
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August 26, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
why Islam hate people? because of their idiotic beliefs. Have you ever wondered why most of the terrorists came from Islam? because their holy-book told them so.
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August 26, 2016, 05:36:21 PM
Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.

In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
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August 26, 2016, 05:15:13 PM
The myth of Muslim tolerance for Jews and Christians





This vision was spelled out in Maria Rosa Menocal's The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews and Christians Created a Culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain (2002) and reinforced by David Levering Lewis's God's Crucible: Islam and the Making of Europe, 570-1215 (2008). But it has deep roots. Edward Gibbon, in his famous 18th-century history of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, wrote in glowing terms of the 10th-century Umayyad caliphate in Spain as a beacon of enlightenment, learning and urban living, at a time when Europe was plunged in bigotry, ignorance and poverty.

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Histories judgement of Islam just got far worse.  There is nothing to redeem about a religion that crystallizes ethnic hatreds around one language and one religion.  That is why it was the blueprint for Nazism.


Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2016/08/the-myth-of-muslim-tolerance-for-jews.html.


Cool
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August 26, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it.  ....

This is an often repeated concept.  However if it is true, then are the following also true?

I did not hate Mein Kamf, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Marquis de Sade's Justine, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Das Kapital, it is the people who misuses it...

Why isn't the book or set of teachings responsible for the errors or crimes of those who follow it?

Let me give a simple example.  There is a common law, that when driving if you run into someone from behind it is your fault.  But we all know there are many cases where it is not your fault.  Someone in front of the car in front of you ran into another car.  This called the car in front of you to be wrecked, and then your car.

We accept this as a consequence of having the law and perhaps  the idea that more good than bad comes from it.  But nobody will say only good comes from it....



Yes, a very wise point of view, I agree

If it is the people who do the evil and not the book that suggests it, then WHY ARE BOOKS BANNED?  Muslims would like to argue that the Koran is without fault, but people may be flawed.  Nothing can be the fault of the book.  But they are the first in the world to ban books of all sort.




Here is a story about 420 books that Saudi Arabia has banned.

http://www.thenational.ae/world/saudi-arabia/saudi-bans-books-at-fair-in-wide-ranging-crackdown

Censorship and Persecution in the Name of Islam

http://www.aina.org/news/20070108191217.htm
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August 26, 2016, 03:37:52 AM
I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it.  ....

This is an often repeated concept.  However if it is true, then are the following also true?

I did not hate Mein Kamf, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Marquis de Sade's Justine, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Das Kapital, it is the people who misuses it...

Why isn't the book or set of teachings responsible for the errors or crimes of those who follow it?

Let me give a simple example.  There is a common law, that when driving if you run into someone from behind it is your fault.  But we all know there are many cases where it is not your fault.  Someone in front of the car in front of you ran into another car.  This called the car in front of you to be wrecked, and then your car.

We accept this as a consequence of having the law and perhaps  the idea that more good than bad comes from it.  But nobody will say only good comes from it....



Yes, a very wise point of view, I agree
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August 25, 2016, 04:50:25 PM
It's because they are humans. For as much as the OP says that Christianity or Budhism are open to other people, I've gone to website where the people are obsessed with their religion. Christian websites, not Budhism. And these people feel special and entitled, and HATE blacks, jews, etc. Anyone that's not like them. And they think they are going to heaven. So it's just a cause of human stupidity.
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August 25, 2016, 12:17:30 PM
I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it.  ....

This is an often repeated concept.  However if it is true, then are the following also true?

I did not hate Mein Kamf, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Marquis de Sade's Justine, it is the people who misuses it...

I did not hate the Das Kapital, it is the people who misuses it...

Why isn't the book or set of teachings responsible for the errors or crimes of those who follow it?

Let me give a simple example.  There is a common law, that when driving if you run into someone from behind it is your fault.  But we all know there are many cases where it is not your fault.  Someone in front of the car in front of you ran into another car.  This called the car in front of you to be wrecked, and then your car.

We accept this as a consequence of having the law and perhaps  the idea that more good than bad comes from it.  But nobody will say only good comes from it....

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August 25, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it.  We know who they are it is the ISIS and the Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.  They are both Muslims and their ways are really terrible.  They are using their religion Islam to make validation on their horrible acts.  They would say that they do that because it was the teachings of their religion but after the kidnappings you will see that they were asking for ransom.
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August 25, 2016, 10:08:01 AM


Let's confront it head on, with the resulting conclusion that Islam today is remarkably bloodthirsty, even compared to the worst of Christianity of the past.  And compared to Christianity or any other religion today, it is quite unique in this respect.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

There are a lot of things I don't like about Islam, but when you say "Islam is boodthirsty", it sounds like you mean all of Muslims, about 1.7 billion of them.

Prophet Muhammad had a few very different tones of voice during his public life: in the Quran they can be divided between Meccan or Medinan sourah. On one side you have the non-tolerant, the strict, the agressive militant sourah (Medinan), and on the other side you have the softer, tolerant, peaceful and humanist text (Meccan), all part of the same Quran, and assembled in disorder just to make things more difficult to understand (http://www.missionislam.com/quran/revealationorder.htm)


As a Muslim, it is their choice to pick the humanist side and focus on the peaceful Meccan sourah, and it's perfectly "Islamic" to do so. We have to guide them toward this part of their own religion and so they give less importance to the aggressive text, also part of the Quran.

Just my opinion.

Well, I don't have any problem with your suggestions.  Think about it.  You are suggesting that someone the likes of I (an atheist, Kaffir, unbeliever) should "guide them."

At this point, then, who laughs, and who cries?
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August 25, 2016, 02:12:39 AM


Let's confront it head on, with the resulting conclusion that Islam today is remarkably bloodthirsty, even compared to the worst of Christianity of the past.  And compared to Christianity or any other religion today, it is quite unique in this respect.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

There are a lot of things I don't like about Islam, but when you say "Islam is boodthirsty", it sounds like you mean all of Muslims, about 1.7 billion of them.

Prophet Muhammad had a few very different tones of voice during his public life: in the Quran they can be divided between Meccan or Medinan sourah. On one side you have the non-tolerant, the strict, the agressive militant sourah (Medinan), and on the other side you have the softer, tolerant, peaceful and humanist text (Meccan), all part of the same Quran, and assembled in disorder just to make things more difficult to understand (http://www.missionislam.com/quran/revealationorder.htm)


As a Muslim, it is their choice to pick the humanist side and focus on the peaceful Meccan sourah, and it's perfectly "Islamic" to do so. We have to guide them toward this part of their own religion and so they give less importance to the aggressive text, also part of the Quran.

Just my opinion.
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August 15, 2016, 10:32:25 AM

If the worst of Christianity is the Jehovah's and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.


For the worst of Christianity, we have to go back in time a little bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

If the worst of Christianity is the Inquisition and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Hundreds of years of deaths in the Inquisition are matched by ISIS and radical Islam in three months.

How about that?

Haha I wont go comparing the numbers as these are very different phenomenons, but I think you understand my point.
Not only did I understand your point, but I gave you an actual comparable against which you can compare (Your choice, remember) the Inquisition (your choice) "the worst of Christianity" to ISIS.

Let's not try to duck and dodge the issue by saying they are different phenomena.

Let's confront it head on, with the resulting conclusion that Islam today is remarkably bloodthirsty, even compared to the worst of Christianity of the past.  And compared to Christianity or any other religion today, it is quite unique in this respect.

www.thereligionofpeace.com
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August 15, 2016, 03:19:49 AM

If the worst of Christianity is the Jehovah's and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.


For the worst of Christianity, we have to go back in time a little bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

If the worst of Christianity is the Inquisition and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Hundreds of years of deaths in the Inquisition are matched by ISIS and radical Islam in three months.

How about that?

Haha I wont go comparing the numbers as these are very different phenomenons, but I think you understand my point.

Your point is that the worst of Christianity doesn't even come close to the regular stuff of Islam?
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August 15, 2016, 01:44:11 AM

If the worst of Christianity is the Jehovah's and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.


For the worst of Christianity, we have to go back in time a little bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

If the worst of Christianity is the Inquisition and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Hundreds of years of deaths in the Inquisition are matched by ISIS and radical Islam in three months.

How about that?

Haha I wont go comparing the numbers as these are very different phenomenons, but I think you understand my point.
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August 15, 2016, 01:42:07 AM

Then one day there is a loud bang on there door and a Muslim is standing there telling him to put a burka on his wife and daughter or they will whip his wife and child in the street..


This is a scary thought that moderate and free western Muslims don't want any more than we do...

I really think imams in mosques should tell their local population's women not to wear the Hijab so Islam is more easily accepted.  The Hijab is very provocative to us westerners.
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August 12, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
I see a lot of Muslims on here saying that christian's did terrible things in the past Roll Eyes..
Now this is the problem we in the west don't believe in gods we know it to be fairy tales..

So imagine if christian's in the 21st century started acting like Islam..
Run in a shop OH JESUS YOU ARE GREAT... BOOM...Shopping mall blew to bits..
Do you think us westerners would all be happy about this? NO WE WOULD NOT BE HAPPY..
We want them punished just as much as Islamist terrorist..
Because we know what your doing in the name of religion I.E fairy tales makes no sense what so ever. Not in the 21st century..

This is the difference between Muslims and Christians..VIDEO FUNNY BUT TRUE..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JapMUBhTT8..

What happened in the past stays in the past..
We westerners hate ISLAM it breaks all our laws of the way we live..

But i suppose you think Islam will take over the world Roll Eyes
Hmmm you could be right if our politicians keep taking money off Islam to build all these mosques while letting in hundreds of thousands in our lands to fill these mosques around our towns and cities..

And while we take and build Islam in our nations the politicians are drinking wine and eating lobster
off the back hander's from Islam..
Then one day there is a loud bang on there door and a Muslim is standing there telling him to put a burka on his wife and daughter or they will whip his wife and child in the street..
But the politician thinks fuck this i am off and flees to another country while leaving the rest of us in the shit..YES Tony Blair the rat..
Now it might never come to this BUT..I bet the Jews thought the same about the Christians..
No those Christians wont be a bigger religion than us..Then look what happened..WAR WAR WAR..

This video is the funniest 1..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hN1vY-ICsE
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August 12, 2016, 09:09:56 PM

If the worst of Christianity is the Jehovah's and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.


For the worst of Christianity, we have to go back in time a little bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

If the worst of Christianity is the Inquisition and the Worst of islam is ISIS, you have just made the point opposite of your belief.

Hundreds of years of deaths in the Inquisition are matched by ISIS and radical Islam in three months.

How about that?
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August 12, 2016, 02:03:00 PM
The easiest way to find excuses for their crimes saying that the blame religion. Where have you seen in the scriptures, the Koran, the Talmud, it is written there, go and kill ?! Blaming the Arabs, Turks and other peoples. Personally, you thereby strengthens hatred. You can not blame a religion or a nation as a whole. You must be punished separately for each person for what he has done.
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