Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 22. (Read 221004 times)

as a mizrahi friend of mine put it,
the shia are more like the fascists, and the sunnis are the guys that tend to get all upset cos you're not like them, lol.

That may be true. But the US has always used strong-arm tactics in the Iraq, ever since they invaded that country under the leadership of GW Bush. Some of those detained and killed may be innocent people, and the remaining may be affiliated to the Al Qaeda or the other Islamist organizations. These issues could have never existed, had Saddam not overthrown.

I just can bare the fact that in the first place most of them especially in iraq or iran or somewhere in the east in which they were being abused by the US government killing people and telling people that they are terrors.

First you need to look at the reasons why the people are violent. If a particular religion is the reason why they are violent, then I am afraid that you can't ignore the role of that religion.

I don't like religion, but I don't hate it either.  People are free to waste their lives on earth believing in whatever nonsense they want to believe in. I support your right to be stupid.

But I hate violent people. I don't care what religion you follow. If you are violent, then go fuck yourself violently.

Spendulus, There are many many more discrepencies in the theology of Islam. That is only the tip of the iceberg mate.
 Once Islam is analysed it appears more and more rediculous. Because it is, in fact, a political theology Islam makes it illegal to crtisize Islam (Sunnah)- so anyone who analyses or critisizes Islam or Muhammed....IS PUT DEATH.......once again Sunnah because Muhammed did it. This is how this facist theology has spread and survived for 1400 years.

Back to the qaran. It is historicaly written tobe written by about 5 or 6 poeple. Muhammad was illiterate. These poeple where educated Jews and Christians. Some are actually listed in the qaran (thats right...google it). Two are a local Christian (banished monk) and his jewish sex slave Sofiya.

When Muhammad died a man, whose name escapes me, gathered all the written documents together, picked out the ones he liked and BURNED THE REST. He then reordered the chapters. He used these to start an army and continue Muhammads work....thus Islam today.

Interesting Allah said that any man killed by a woman goes to hell....Muhammad was poisoned to death by a Jewish woman....he he.
Muhammad was busted wearing his wifes dress and said ' aaaaggghhhhh    it helps me receive the qaran from Gabriel'...yeh right mate.
Muhhamed said the sun goes to hell every night. During intercourse the partner that has the first orgasm determines the sex of the child. A woman must shave her pussy when her husband is at war. FGM gives a woman honor....sic, he had up to 6 little girls in his harem, he banned all pictures thus no Muslim countries have art or pictures, if you get heat stroke drink camels urine.

Mate the list of stupidity goes on and on

Quite interesting. So a man according to Islam, had the right to kiss and suck other men's wives tits?

Wait...

I thought advocates of Islam are all saying the "Koran is perfect?"

Radical Islamists are a threat everywhere, and it doesn't matter whether they are Sunni or Shia. On the other hand, the moderates can be both Sunni and Shiite. For example, secular leaders such as Bashar al Assad are Shiite. Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who restored the secular rule in Egypt is a Sunni, and so was Saddam Hussein of Iraq.

Airplane.....you gotta study Islam mate.
It is a political theology, developed by a psycotic, pedophilic warlord.

Not only does Allah actively promote killing Jews, Christians and all infidells. But the mainstream doctrine of 'Sunnah' instructs all Muslims to follow the way of Muhammad. Muhammad was the perfect man (sic). Now study the deeds and words of Muhammad in books called the 'hadith'...yes i have read the koran and hadiths.

The Koran makes over 30 instructions to kill, states over 90 to follow Muhammad, says that jews are pigs, dogs, apes and donkeys, woman are inferior to men, musloms are supirior to everyone else, states you must spread Sharia law 100 times, says you must fight over 100 times, states you must do jihad to go to heaven, instructs muslems to terrorize and attact infidels, ....honestly it is the most disgusting book i have ever read, given i have not read mein kampft.

So all good Muslims copy Muhammed.....right?
Pedophile, mass murder, rapist, warlord, theif, poligymist, slept with his auntie AFTER SHE DIED, killed gays, genocided jews and christians, destroyed monuments of other religions, wiped his arse with his left hand, claimed to be in contact with god (as did Jim Jones), was a SLAVE TRADER, had sex slaves...was seriously misogynistic, the list goes on.

As a result of Sunnah. Islam does not beleive in 'right' and 'wrong' like us in the west. In islam what muhammad did was good and anything against islam is bad........diferent values to us eh?

I dont hate Musloms. I hate Islam. But then if a Muslom breaks our laws, values, disrespects our courts, exservicemen, ancestors, religions or culture....then they can go to hell with Muhammed.

Want a inside look at Islam? Watch this. The breadtfeeding doctrine....he he
https://youtu.be/0taTSaUO2hM

People hate Islam because of what they see in the media(television, internet, etc) and their everyday lives. Try googling ‘terrorism’, ‘Islam killing’, ‘Christian killing’, and ‘Hindu killing’.

Regardless if these sources are showing the real story or biased ones, these data are being embedded into the minds of people, that Islam is, or at least has a violent teachings, that teaches to kill people (sinners and infidels) in brutal and barbaric ways.

Humans in general are emotional beings and sympathize with the pain of others, we don’t want people getting hurt. We don’t want our children to be killed, mutilated, raped, gang-raped, hanged. We want peace, happiness, equality, and equal respect for one another. Most importantly, we want our loved ones to be safe and live their lives happily.

Thus, people feel for those people they see who experience injustice. They imagine their pain, their agony, and what if it happened to their families and children. So, they hate. They believe those victims didn’t deserve what happened to them, whether it’s a war crime, or religious punishment. At the same time, they fear.

Shiites are not more hostile - at least than Sunnis. They just aren't hypocritical.
This means they do the very same as Sunnis but admit to do it.

I'm not very familiar with the Muslims and their lives, but one thing I know for sure is that the radical trends of Islam are very cruel not only against women, but also against other nations. I consider Shiites more hostile, although they are only 10% of all Muslims.

most of them aren't even syrian but gathered from the prisons from all the bearded world...
among other assorted scum.

My point of thinking is very simple. Compare Assad with his potential successor. As far as I know, all the rebel leaders are much worse than Assad. They don't have the necessary experience, and most of them are radical Islamists.

yeah, it does depend on a lot of things.
unless i've missed something, i think all israeli mainstream parties are from the center right.
and for a good reason.
the whole dynamics there are different.
and yeah, assad may be a creep, but it ain't an easy task to keep that shit together.
read somewhere that persia/iran, after three thousand years of ethnic reconciliations (and the occasional genocide) eventually decided to make up a 2 million man army and simply occupy themselves, so to speak.

It depends on a lot of things. First of all, no Israeli mainstream political party engages in Muslim appeasement (I am not considering Meretz as a mainstream party). And secondly, the Syrians have lived for decades under the secular regime of Assad. The population there is quite moderate, at least when compared to the other Arabs. 

ok, that's better - i agree i didn't well enough explain myself.

strangely, since i been in asia my vocabulary and manner of expressing myself has deteriorated a bit.
when people don't understand what i try to say too often i try to use simpler/more common english words and thus...

no time to try learning chinese yet unfortunately.

i lived an year in israel, the negev desert near gaza.
know people who lived or had spent time in iran, egypt, lebanon, lybia... - even syria before the war broke out (not to mention encountered some syrians in the last half an year and those i met strike me as quite secular and what's even more of a surprise - well educated and speaking good to perfect english).
what i can tell from personal experience and encounters is that:

- ironically or paradoxially, the middle east and people there (whether muslim, jewish, druze, bedouin, etc.) seem a whole lot saner, particularly in their everyday interactions compared to the west, where the neurosis/psychosis spectrum reigns.

- the middle east is really a different world, one that cannot be judged by one's external standards that are mostly derived from media and inability to interpret events and causal relationships of what affects what and how.... not to mention it being a mosaic of ethnicities and ethno religious groups (many of which quite ancient), and a whole lot of them just nominally muslim and largely secularized. but most people just see them as 'muslims', 'sand niggers', and can't recognize a kurd from a saudi or a syrian from an iraqi...

and yeah, i'm balkan too, i know what you mean and that's what i wanted to point to as well.
you even have muslim matriarchical societies somewhere in africa, lol.
at the same time, statistically speaking, it seems that most crimes (and by crimes i mean the really criminal shit, like those fuckers in sweden that raped a girl for 3 hours proudly live streaming it on facebook and so on..) are committed by muslims coming from places like pakistan, somalia, etc.
when i hear some of the stories from friends and acquaintances living in germany, what germany allows there, i am shocked.
and if we keep up this way of thinking, of either/or, black or white, either with us or with the terrorists, that dialectic only perpetuates things one way - from worse, to worse...

Your reference notes problems with post facto analysis of history which I agree with, and I think you and I agree that the poster I responded to has it wrong.

He postulates a "single mover theory" of history in which Mohammed was responsible for "breaking the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare."

Not only has such a thing not happened in general, but if it had in some regions, there would be various diverse causes. 

how obviously?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy

next thing you know it, you're gonna say cambodia brought it all upon themselves too.

its very convenient to point the finger at a single reason - islam, the jews, the bourgious, the rich, etc...
but that's not how things work, ever.

have you taken a look at the map lately?

what constitutes the 'muslim world'.

and im not implying islam is good or bad, i am saying that this is not the way to formulate it to begin with.