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September 25, 2019, 03:56:14 AM
#70
When technology keeps evolving we keep losing our privacy level,

this is true but this is false at the same time . why i could say that ? well true because there are now high tech gadgets that can easily track people beyond gps technology  . false becuase there are also gadgets that are now verry secure compare to the gadgets before  . take a look at your smartphone , it has now finger print and face detection aside from traditional passwords .

 in cryptos we dont really need anonimity because we are legit and we dont need to hide anything  but  idk to some individuals .
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September 25, 2019, 03:30:58 AM
#69
When technology keeps evolving we keep losing our privacy level,now google and facebook know what we do from wakeup to bed due to own smart phone tracking now they are trying to know everything about own savings as well to target deep if this happens then we can't live our life in the way we wanted.
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September 25, 2019, 02:17:53 AM
#68
I agree that we don't need anonymity. But, we shouldn't be controlled. So, I like the decentralization part a lot. And not interested about anonymity. I have nothing to hide and no one to fear

Well, I tend to somewhat disagree with this view

Everyone has their little secrets which they don't want to share with anyone, including friends, relatives or even their partner. And that's normal since otherwise the life would simply be unbearable. But these little secrets and tiny lies seem impossible without a certain level of anonymity, and still more so in financial matters (since we are talking mostly about crypto here). But if there is no anonymity, there will inevitably be some tools of control installed as these things are inseparable (though the connection may not be very obvious and straightforward)
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September 24, 2019, 06:49:53 PM
#67
I agree that we don't need anonymity. But, we shouldn't be controlled. So, I like the decentralization part a lot. And not interested about anonymity. I have nothing to hide and no one to fear.
However, I don't like to let any one to have a controlling device.
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September 24, 2019, 06:13:40 PM
#66
I think that anonymity is a right, but considering how some events are happening, we are farther from getting or keeping anonymity, when we do trading, in the known Exchanges we must have our KYC, and at the same time they classify it in levels, many Sometimes it is not good to discover our data, because influential people or institutions will see what we do, I think that every day we are already losing this characteristic or right.
It sooner we lost this anonymity features in crypto as most exchanges are asking for KYC verification for some purposes. We would like to stay anonymous but I think isn't important now, in some way that we could help to solve money laundering and fraud because of KYC we did. It makes that everything we do in crypto will be traceable and can be monitored. We feel no worries when crypto turns like this cause unless we hide something or doing illegal activities that we would likey keep untraceable.
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September 24, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
#65
I think that anonymity is a right, but considering how some events are happening, we are farther from getting or keeping anonymity, when we do trading, in the known Exchanges we must have our KYC, and at the same time they classify it in levels, many Sometimes it is not good to discover our data, because influential people or institutions will see what we do, I think that every day we are already losing this characteristic or right.
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September 24, 2019, 04:56:36 PM
#64
Your post was interested until I got to the end. What the hell?! By the way you can do things about it and ignoring it means you ok with it, If you don't report it you support it. I am not sure where the hell the dog stuff came from. Knowing who people are will not stop that kind of behaviour because those people don't care. I don't want to know who my neighbour is since I may not like it. YOu sound paranoid.

Saying your privacy is not important because you have nothing to hide is like saying you do not believe or need free speech because you have nothing to say.
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September 24, 2019, 04:15:49 PM
#63
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Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it
Because there are many investors with significant investments, who don't want to declare their assets because that makes them pay a hefty tax and it may be more than the profits they make, primarily, some illegal transactions also conducted via Crypto, so anonymity is the top priority.

So you're saying that we need anonymity because people want to avoid paying taxes? This is a stupid reasoning. Most people would pay their crypto taxes if they knew the government was fair and just and would never come after them asking where did they get the money and trying to investigate them and know their spending habits.

What I'm scared of is being on some secret list of bitcoin holders that can be later used to tax me further because some politician decides that bitcoiners are bad for the economy.
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September 24, 2019, 01:55:03 PM
#62
Anonymity may not be the end time solution to all the issues with this crypto industry but it surely adds to its advantage. I believe it was that ability of Bitcoin to anonymity in the beginning that drew most people to it from the onset. Sometimes, people need to mask their earnings and investments, especially during an era of global insecurity such as we have now.
Well said, throughout the world there is global insecurity. This will cause our funds being stolen or make us exposed. When there is anonymity we only know what we've and there is no need of fear. This is where anonymity serves as advantage while governments describe its usage on terrorism and other illegal substances as the reason for statements against cryptocurrency.
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September 24, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
#61
Anonymity may not be the end time solution to all the issues with this crypto industry but it surely adds to its advantage. I believe it was that ability of Bitcoin to anonymity in the beginning that drew most people to it from the onset. Sometimes, people need to mask their earnings and investments, especially during an era of global insecurity such as we have now.
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September 24, 2019, 01:02:51 PM
#60
Different strokes for different folks mate, why some hate anonymity other's want it, and I am among those who love having their privacy, I think we all need some level of privacy, can't just throw all you personal information to the open for everyone to see, I will always have certain info private if I can,
You can always get to know people without letting too much of your personal stuff out, anonymous is good, I don't see why I should be watch 24hrs like I did something wrong,  as a human I deserve to have my privacy period.
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September 24, 2019, 12:59:45 PM
#59
You don't want anonymity, publicize everything about yourself, but don't use force to impose your whims and beliefs in the rest of us. 

An animal lives in a state of perpetual transparency, a human does not if the human wants to be free. Just because you don't care about your liberty, don't sell the rest of us down the river to assuage your conscience.
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September 24, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
#58
Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.

I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.

Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.

How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.

I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?

We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.

Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.

And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.

So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.

On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.

If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.

All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.

I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.

I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-

Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.

The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.

The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion

I really love anonymity and I think that it should be combined with KYC mechanisms in order to work flawlessly.
We need transparency in the network. There are so many protocols which can provide us KYC features and encrypted inside the blockchain, thus we are anonymous and transparent at the same time.
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September 24, 2019, 11:27:26 AM
#57
We all have different opinions regarding things but for me,having both anonymity and transparency could work better than pushing only one. It's better to have perfect balance. Too much anonymity can do something bad, same with having too much transparency. How can you say that the more we become transparent, the lesser the government can control us? Where in fact, being too transparent may also lead to be controlled by others. Imagine, they know all of your information because you're too transparent.

What I'm trying to say is that, we don't only need transparency but also anonymity, with the proper use of the two.
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September 24, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
#56
Anonymity is not a solution for sure, rather we need transparency!! A see a lot of bitcoin maximalists people raising their voice for anonymity to sideline the banking and governance route! But that very idea will land bitcoin in big trouble. A majority of the nations are already skeptical about cryptocurrencies in general only because of its anonymous nature! More push for anonymity will harm cryptos beyond measures!

Rather, it's always better to held our heads high with pride to show we have nothing illegal. That change in outlook is needed for us to survive and thrive amidst all surveillance and regulatory concerns.

Respect and acceptance is what we need because these can gradually make the situation better for us. Revolution can stay in our hearts.

I agree with this. The problem is that some of us are abusing this anonymity when they are using cryptocurrency, that is why the Government are skeptical about crypto, which we can't blame them if they are taking the precautions. Also because of news that a lot of people are using cryptocurrencies to scam other people, they also think that it is no good to be implemented as a way of paying stuffs online or not online.

We need transparency and discipline to ourselves, for cryptocurrency to be adopted by the whole population around the globe, let's stop being selfish and greedy.
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September 24, 2019, 08:41:14 AM
#55
About 80% of people in the crypto ecosystem believe that anonymity is the best option for financial transactions on a decentralized system due to the fact that anyone can easily monitor and track every transactions made on the network. But me personally, I don't see anything useful with anonymity.  I don't really think the crypto space needs it.
I think so, because honestly I myself first joined crypto because I was interested in the anonymous innovations brought about. I often gamble, and gambling is something that is prohibited in my country, even the law states give prison sentence for the players. Crypto anonymity is very good for my undercover transactions, so crypto anonymity is very important to me

thats one of the reason why people need to become anonymous and not just because they wanted to do shady deals but unlike you , i first joined crypto not because of its anon feature but i find it cool to have a digital currency that are less stricter and less hassel than the exiting digital payment methods  . you did mention that gambling is restricted ? but you can still  use some censorship circumvention tools so that you are not trackable aside from using a crypto .
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September 23, 2019, 09:34:09 AM
#54
All we need is transparency I believe. Because for example we don't know exactly what is going on with banking system. If we use a system like cryptocurrencies have, everything will be transparent and governments won't be able to do whatever they want.
It seems that all the transactions are traceable but how about the one doing this, have we know him/her? We can still remain hidden.

Though there is no need to become anonymous but like as one feature of crypto, it still can be. That is why the government look into crypto suspicious and unreliable thing that can't be trusted. There is no wrong with that but somehow some people are using this "anonymity" to make illegalities that could make authorities to hold and banned crypto.
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September 23, 2019, 08:40:31 AM
#53
Hold on!! hold on!! I feel it the other way there should be anonymity. Why the hell should someone know how much funds you have earned and hold.

You mentioned
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neighbours dont know each other
Coming to this point. If your are rich enough to through parties or if you do not mind spending on others then whole world we take out time to know you or get in touch with you or be a friend of yours. This shows that people are only interest in money and not in you. This technology is help you keep that greed causing data anonymous. Rest of the data is open to all on blockchain.
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September 23, 2019, 08:25:55 AM
#52
All we need is transparency I believe. Because for example we don't know exactly what is going on with banking system. If we use a system like cryptocurrencies have, everything will be transparent and governments won't be able to do whatever they want.
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September 23, 2019, 07:22:19 AM
#51
Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.

I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.

Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.

How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.

I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?

We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.

Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.

And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.

So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.

On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.

If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.

All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.

I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.

I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-

Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.

The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.

The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion


Gosh, your comparison of freedom with a rope reminded me of Supernatural)
One of the main characters said that "Freedom is a length of rope. God wants you to hang yourself with it.”
And from such point of view, I should agree, because of anonymity people do certain things and get away with it. But what we all expect from blockchain technologies is that they will bring us transparency. And it, in turn, should bring order in the countries and honesty
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