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Quote from: fuckcrypto on August 08, 2019, 07:10:10 AM

Anonymity sucks, anonymity gives everyone to much ropes to hang someone with it or to hang yourself on it.

I think the solution to a better world is if everything(yes everything, every fart) is on the blocckchain.

Currently, most peoples that live in big cities dont even know their neighbor so you dont even know who is living next to you.

How can this be good, anonymity allows for to much sick shit to happen.

I get the point that in ccountries like north korea or china it is better tos tay anoynmous cause the governemnt knows to much about 1, well how is this different in Europe or the USA?

We are beeing watched and surveilled since day 1 and it wont get better anyways.

Because of anonymity governements have to much controll over us becaue they can set us up with fake news etc.

And we have all learned by know that banning doesnt make things any better, look at the war on Drugs, prohibition and even to think you an outlaw guns is more than ridiculous.

So since everything is known about us by big companys that use the information to play us and take us for a ride everday with fake news articles etc, wh not fight for having all of our data public.

On 1 hand we all humans, some are prettier some are more ugly but we all humans we all shit, piss and act like assholes or bitches, everyone of us.

If you dont do anything weird or crazy that you dont want people to know about you dont fuckign do it.
And if you a sick motherfucker we all have the right to know so we can avoid you and you can get the help you need to straighten your ass out.

All that hiding and havign secrets and stuff is only beacuse of the elite- we cant trust the elite and the biggest beneficary of anonymity is not the small guy- its government, cause usually the governemtn develops the best tools for anonymity etc so if they are in posession of these techniques of course tehy use it against us.

I do beleive that if everythign si run decentralized and open for everyone to see, we can know exactly about our governement and we know exactly were things go wrong insteed know we have to trust fake news and lieing presidents taht they tell us the truth- which they most likely dont do anyways but if everything is open and transparent not even the presidents can lie anymore.

I have the feelng that controlled opposition is pshing for more anonymity etc. and i think its wrong-

Right now there are millions of images of how people kill dogs on the internet- and none forces you to watch it, howver you cant stop it either so the best thing is ignore it.

The problem is, with more anonymity the more people will torture dogs or kids or things like that and will have a better chance to spread this (to my moral standard: sicck shit), but if we know everythign about everyone i think people wont fuck on kids or torture animals that much anymore.

The more we people become transparent the less chance for the governemtn to controll us- transparency will end governements, olicitcs and religion

i really don't agree with you at all, everyone deserve to have some privacy at some point in life, not everything should be thrown open in the public for everybody to see, not because of the elite we have secret, the non-elite also wants private life away from the prying eyes of the public, i bet you won't have any problem with a camera hanging around you in your home, office and everywhere, your wanting to have some privacy has nothing to do with any government intentions good or bad.

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Speaking of the reason why we need anonymity in the crypto sphere. The cryptocurrency was created as an alternative payment system which will make people financial freedom and crypto cant achieve if the system is centralized. However, Trump ex-chief strategist also confirmed cryptocurrencies are the key to national liberation and it all because of anonymity.

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I think anonymity is still very important, because there are many situations where anonymity can help us overcome power imbalances and exercise our rights.

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I don't like the idea about making all this information public, because what we can lose in that moment is our freedom. I don't like to be watched and recorded on any action i do, i don't like people knowing where i spend my money or how i get that money. And the problem about making that information public is big companies will use that info to sell you X product.

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Transparency is already in the blockchain, we know where the coins originally, where it goes and where its being transacted to be converted into fiat, that's very transparent. But if transparency means names of the individuals connected to the blockchain wallets, that's pretty much an over kill besides we don't want names associated to our wallets because that's attracting criminals to come onto your doorstep.

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It is our right to remain anonymous in the public and it is also our protection, but what it makes a change now is that the government wants to be transparent. It has the advantage as it could stop those individuals who tried to do illegal activities and they couldn't hide anymore their real identity.
Though some of us have good intentions to keep anonymous, however, it is good to be fair and transparent.

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You might not need anonymity and that's a good thing. But the world is not same everywhere. In some oppressive countries, citizens are restricted from financial freedom.
In some countries, there's no freedom of speech or a freedom of fair jurisdiction. Here anonymity is the only way people can survive without killing their ideas.
Even is some so called free nations, Government uses surveillance to categorize people and push mass propaganda's. That's why anonymity is a tool to freedom.

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In Norway, little by little people are using el. banking to pay for goods and services. Soon they are going to be the first country to use only el. banking money. All is transparent, no anonymity.

But is an all transparent ecosystem good? In sort of - yes, but would you like it when you know that someone has access to all your funds? And more, if all the money was controlled by one or few banks, doesn't that mean that they control the world? If you don't agree to something they would be able to simply disconnect you and that would be it, you would have nowhere to go.

Crypto is the other story, but as you mentioned it lacks transparency, you can pay for illegal things more easily.

I believe, that we need some anonymity. Not much, but just to keep some control in our own hands. Just in case.

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If a person sends a tip in bitcoin, he or she may not want the recipient to know how much money they have. Anonymity protects both sender and recipient from potential harm.

If a person inadvertently receives some bitcoin that can be traced to previous use in an illicit transaction, that bitcoin is potentially worth less than other bitcoin. Anonymity makes bitcoin more fungible so 1 BTC always equal one BTC.

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Quote from: FanEagle on August 12, 2019, 01:43:05 PM

It is Time to really embrace and push for decentralization, even the government must make sure that all their system are fully decentralized from even the voting system so that everything can be transparent, but the issue is who would push for this decentralized system? Expect we keep pushing it in the little way it has been which take lot of years before it will can creep into government system

But how are we going to do this in practice?

As the saying goes, you can't solve a problem relying on those who created it. But given how corrupt the current political landscape is (in any country of your choice), you wouldn't really expect the government to embrace decentralization, for example, in the voting system in order to make it completely transparent and "provably fair", so to speak. Elections are an instrument of power and they won't let it go

Further, those more powerful will always have more options available to them for making their financial transactions anonymous and keeping them that way. That's basically why they are against anonymity in general. It is only through someone more powerful who they were unlucky or unwise to lock horns with that their little financial shenanigans become known and publicized (read, it doesn't change anything in the bigger picture)

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About 80% of people in the crypto ecosystem believe that anonymity is the best option for financial transactions on a decentralized system due to the fact that anyone can easily monitor and track every transactions made on the network. But me personally, I don't see anything useful with anonymity. I don't really think the crypto space needs it.

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I think this message goes more to the authority because they are the ones that are being too secretive about everything that they do and we really need transparency in our country, it is this anonymity that has made lots of countries producing corrupt leaders that are just making money out of their citizens by stealing from them through the anonymous system they all claim they operate on in the power house.

It is Time to really embrace and push for decentralization, even the government must make sure that all their system are fully decentralized from even the voting system so that everything can be transparent, but the issue is who would push for this decentralized system? Expect we keep pushing it in the little way it has been which take lot of years before it will can creep into government system.

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how can you help someone if you ask him how are you and he tells you good while in reality he feels like shit Huh

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Recently, you need to maintain anonymity to everyone who works not only in the crypto-currency market, but also earns good money with the help of another business. Time is now wrong, especially in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe. I'm not talking about Asia, because there is a cost more difficult. Anonymity for the cryptoval training users is primarily their security.

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Many people don't want anyone to know how or way they do their business with cryptocurrencies. That is why they need anonimity. And I agree that is good to have possibility not to reveal identity unles you want to.
Still anonimity could be misused and some people hide their bad intentions and illegal activities and that is the reason why anonimity should be kept under certain control.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 09, 2019, 10:04:59 AM

Quote from: kaya11 on August 08, 2019, 07:47:10 AM

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On the other hand if these guys were known or exposed they won't be doing such stuff. Being anonymous makes this guys do what they wanted. Since, if they commited a crime and no one knows the identity of the perpetrators then they will just do it again and again just like what the government official do. Due to the non-transparent transactions, they can steal how much they wanted to take. If it is transparent then this corrupt official won't even dare to steal a single cents from the government funds that suppose to go to the development of the country.

Well I know that anonymity is very important to us, but we also need to know that high anonymity is also not good. And it is true that high anonymity makes way for a criminal to continue to commit their crime. But on the other hand there is also truth in what the OP is saying, when anonymity gets higher then there is no more opportunity for the government to regulate us and regulations could be useless.

I think anonymity is OK, as long as we know what we have to anonymize. Actually not everything we have must be anonymous, for me, I will transparency what is not my privacy. Likewise the government does not need to do full transparency, but only what is needed.

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Anonymity is a double edge sword, most of us who really loves bitcoin or crypto currencies really likes anonymity as we can do almost all the things that we like without being monitored by someone or by the government.

In this case, we can enjoy the use of crypto currencies to it's fullest without worrying. But in the other hand, anonymity is also an advantage to all shady transactions especially those illegal doings which is not good also.

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Anonymity in cryptocurrency is financial freedom of choice. Many are tired of the almost complete control of us by governments, which became possible due to the high level of technological progress. The Internet, mobile phones, computers, video cameras at every step, create the ability to practically control every step we take. If we still do a KYC check on almost every transaction, there is practically nothing personal left in us and many disagree with this. People should still have the right to choose. You can not suspect all people of criminal acts and monitor everyone. This humiliates us. Therefore, certain anonymity should be, including in the financial sector.

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it is true that what is sought is freedom in cryptocurrency. but the obstacle that must be overcome is the government. many governments still consider it, for various reasons, including money laundering, corruption, illegal trade, etc. hopefully there is a solution soon

Even without cryptocurrency, they can still do this.

A lot of cases of money being laundered and they are not using cryptocurrencies. Corruption is so popular to every country, still without the use and being legal of cryptocurrencies. Illegal trade and any other illegal acts can still be done without cryptos so I don't think we should have a problem with that. The only problem the government faces is how will they be able to put a tax on these cryptos.

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We need it for the countries where the bitcoins is banned , where people are not allowed to hold their digital assets and it is often , this is something that makes you sell your bitcoins right before the new law is supposed to be passed , what I think is in those countries this matters , because there is no clear evidence that who this person is .. who is using bitcoins .
Those ridiculous laws makes it completely unreasonable for the people to actually do something.
I think this helps to ...spread bitcoins even when there is no hope.

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