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January 01, 2023, 04:14:55 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I do agree that many casinos have many scam accusations against them. But you are forgetting the fact my friend that these are scam accusations, not actual scam incidents. To accuse anybody you simply need to create a thread, and in order to prove that they actually scammed, proofs required. So to be honest I don’t mind seeing multiple accusations against a site until and unless those have solid proofs. And yes with big popularity the amount of accusations rises. So definitely if you see stake.com and prime dice, they have plenty of accusations against them, but all we know that they are best in the market.
Personally, those accusations do not matter at all, regardless if they are fake or not. As long as they come to find solutions on each problem and resolve them, that’s all that matters. And the fact that even reputable casinos are not free from accusations, but we have seen that despite all those issues, these reputable casinos have continued to serve us and give their satisfying services.
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January 01, 2023, 04:13:53 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

If you think about it a different way you probably get a more fair opinion on the matter, people never like losing money - yet casinos are by their very nature primarily set up to take customer funds away from them with the tiny chance that they'd possibly get some sort of sizable jackpot sum back from a smaller bet. While there are definitely scummy casinos out there and every case needs to be thoroughly reviewed individually, you can almost guarantee that complaints about most big casinos are purely disgruntled customers who do not accept losing money easily and want some kind of revenge, even if it is just leaving a false review to damage their reputation out of anger.
Issues that might be seen on those reputable gambling sites.

1. False feedback from those losers
2. Simply those unavoidable technical errors for a site to have.

Issues and problems is something which cant really be avoided, thing here is that on how they would be resolving it out as early or fast as they could.
For scammy sites then expect that it would really be something that not really surprising and this is why its always recommendable that you should stick
on where the masses do mainly play or stay on and dont touch up those non popular ones if you dont like headaches.
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January 01, 2023, 04:05:46 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

If you think about it a different way you probably get a more fair opinion on the matter, people never like losing money - yet casinos are by their very nature primarily set up to take customer funds away from them with the tiny chance that they'd possibly get some sort of sizable jackpot sum back from a smaller bet. While there are definitely scummy casinos out there and every case needs to be thoroughly reviewed individually, you can almost guarantee that complaints about most big casinos are purely disgruntled customers who do not accept losing money easily and want some kind of revenge, even if it is just leaving a false review to damage their reputation out of anger.
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January 01, 2023, 03:40:57 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Well, not to be a victim blamer or anything, but you have to take some of these accusations with a grain of salt.  I'm aware of at least one active member of this community, who is in the default trust network that lies about these sorts of accusations to try and extort money from projects here.  Of course the casinos seem to be the easiest targets because some of them may be willing to pay off troublemakers.  At least the smaller ones trying to establish reputations.  So if you come across someone frequently complaining about casinos, take a moment to consider if all the casinos are the problem, or if it's the user...
This is the reality, people always look for a way to make money. Whats been said had been tried by many users. They just make compliant over every casino without any proof. Having some acquisition truly disturb the casino and these people demand with the gambling platform for the removal of the thread. We the users need the understanding and clearly go through the thread to know the reality behind the acquisition
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January 01, 2023, 03:32:15 PM
~snip~

I do agree that many casinos have many scam accusations against them. But you are forgetting the fact my friend that these are scam accusations, not actual scam incidents. To accuse anybody you simply need to create a thread, and in order to prove that they actually scammed, proofs required. So to be honest I don’t mind seeing multiple accusations against a site until and unless those have solid proofs. And yes with big popularity the amount of accusations rises. So definitely if you see stake.com and prime dice, they have plenty of accusations against them, but all we know that they are best in the market.

I'm not sure how to react, regarding allegations against casinos in our community. in particular, at reputable casinos. however, we can actually assess it objectively. we can see it from various points of view, without reducing the objectivity of our assessment. Regarding late withdrawals, this is actually very easy to explain. because as we know, there will always be delays regarding withdrawals. whether it's a technical problem, traffic problems. but certainly, if everything is in normal conditions everything is fine.

In most cases you won't have to react if you don't want to be involved but if you happen to discover something that is important to the case then better show it to the public.  You can stay neutral since we are not obliged to favor someone unless we believe that there is something fishy about one of the two parties.

There have also been allegations of fraud at some of the leading casinos, if we look at it from a business perspective. maybe, things like this are campaigned to bring down the reputation that the casino has. and the thing is, to date no evidence has been presented on any of these unfounded accusations. in this context, I try to be as objective as possible in an assessment. so, if there is no corroborating evidence at all. there is nothing we can do, except for a few casinos that clearly already have a bad reputation. For stakecom, so far I haven't experienced any problems with my favorite casino. and don't get me wrong, and it doesn't mean that I'm giving a defense especially because I'm part of their campaign. as long as these accusations have no evidence, and throughout my experience. So far we haven't had any problems.

I believe we are not that dumb to believe a baseless accusation.  If we are in doubt then we can gather information or tuned in on the discussion since one way or another, the truth about the matter will be exposed.
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January 01, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Well, not to be a victim blamer or anything, but you have to take some of these accusations with a grain of salt.  I'm aware of at least one active member of this community, who is in the default trust network that lies about these sorts of accusations to try and extort money from projects here.  Of course the casinos seem to be the easiest targets because some of them may be willing to pay off troublemakers.  At least the smaller ones trying to establish reputations.  So if you come across someone frequently complaining about casinos, take a moment to consider if all the casinos are the problem, or if it's the user...
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January 01, 2023, 01:45:01 PM
~snip~

I do agree that many casinos have many scam accusations against them. But you are forgetting the fact my friend that these are scam accusations, not actual scam incidents. To accuse anybody you simply need to create a thread, and in order to prove that they actually scammed, proofs required. So to be honest I don’t mind seeing multiple accusations against a site until and unless those have solid proofs. And yes with big popularity the amount of accusations rises. So definitely if you see stake.com and prime dice, they have plenty of accusations against them, but all we know that they are best in the market.

I'm not sure how to react, regarding allegations against casinos in our community. in particular, at reputable casinos. however, we can actually assess it objectively. we can see it from various points of view, without reducing the objectivity of our assessment. Regarding late withdrawals, this is actually very easy to explain. because as we know, there will always be delays regarding withdrawals. whether it's a technical problem, traffic problems. but certainly, if everything is in normal conditions everything is fine.

There have also been allegations of fraud at some of the leading casinos, if we look at it from a business perspective. maybe, things like this are campaigned to bring down the reputation that the casino has. and the thing is, to date no evidence has been presented on any of these unfounded accusations. in this context, I try to be as objective as possible in an assessment. so, if there is no corroborating evidence at all. there is nothing we can do, except for a few casinos that clearly already have a bad reputation. For stakecom, so far I haven't experienced any problems with my favorite casino. and don't get me wrong, and it doesn't mean that I'm giving a defense especially because I'm part of their campaign. as long as these accusations have no evidence, and throughout my experience. So far we haven't had any problems.
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January 01, 2023, 10:57:30 AM
All casino threads have such problems, then in this case we must comply with the regulations that have been set so that all our bets are safe and can provide benefits, because they also do not want to be harmed by irresponsible users in completing their data, and we must know all gambling businesses that are running at the moment it is difficult to provide customer satisfaction at this time because their character is definitely different, then this is what can make trouble for all of us.
complying with the rules on gambling is highly recommended and indeed must be obeyed and don't violate these rules if you want everything to be fine without problems.
but one thing I disagree when you say obey the rules for profit. we comply with the rules that have been set by gambling not for profit but so that we play at gambling without problems and we can gamble comfortably and safely there, not profit. because for profit it is not part of the rules at the casino.
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December 31, 2022, 09:41:49 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I do agree that many casinos have many scam accusations against them. But you are forgetting the fact my friend that these are scam accusations, not actual scam incidents. To accuse anybody you simply need to create a thread, and in order to prove that they actually scammed, proofs required. So to be honest I don’t mind seeing multiple accusations against a site until and unless those have solid proofs. And yes with big popularity the amount of accusations rises. So definitely if you see stake.com and prime dice, they have plenty of accusations against them, but all we know that they are best in the market.
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December 31, 2022, 08:45:03 PM
Each situation requires to be dealt with separately and objectively, there is no typical solution for all the problems of the player and the online casino, this is a two-way road and it cannot be said that this casino is not trusted because they have a lot of tickets from players with problems.
Each and every issue needs to be taken seriously and the respective solution need to be got. With online casinos we'll experience lots and lots of issues getting arisen. The lack of getting solution over the issues affect the reputation. As said, it is a two way road everything need to be given importance. A small delay in solving the problem might happen, but the ticket not getting created shouldn't happen.
To this I will add that customers need to cut some slack to businesses in general, including casinos, now if the complain is about some sort of scam then I could understand that this is a very serious issue and it needs to be addressed immediately, but when it comes to a small delay on the customer service or a similar issue we need to learn to be more tolerant.

After all it is not the end of the world if the customer service was supposed to answer your question on a 24 hour window, and it took them 6 additional hours as they were very busy at the time.
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December 27, 2022, 09:15:13 AM
That means something else is causing the casino to continue to have problems and the casino should recognize this immediately and find out exactly what is happening with them. They may need to revamp their premises and investigate why there are so many cases after one well-solved case. And it doesn't make sense if that happens, but the members should look for other casinos that can be safer and not experience serious problems like the casino before.
A gambler that sees that the casino that he's in is no longer safe, has to look at it for real. While for the casino that does experiences something bad like what you've said, there's a need to look at it also as it will affect their day-to-day operations.
If the casino is no longer safe for him, he should move on and find another more comfortable casino, and I'm sure he will find one, especially if he can find it from this forum. And if the casino encounters a problem, they must solve it as soon as possible so that the other members don't worry if they continue playing there.

Every good companies or business have bad reputations that re spread intentionally by haters, you can't be successful and not have people that will want to stop and ruin that success for you, if this isn't happening to you yet then you are not successful.

The only difference is bad companies have way more bad reputations than the good ones because it's real, but good companies rep are intentionally ruined by haters, period.
This is natural because of the competition among business people who want to get the top position in the same business sector. This makes them want to do everything to ensure that users will always use only their business premises and that they can get the greatest advantage over their competitors. But for now, users will not be lured by what is offered by casinos that are not trusted or do such bad things because they can choose the casino they want. I am sure that every casino will always be careful in competing with its competitors and will not let its competitors spread trouble for that casino.
With the stiff competition of casinos in the gambling industry, all casinos are thinking to be on top of the other. And they usually do this by offering their more trendy and advanced games and bonuses, and various promotions that will attract the interest of gamblers. But with all of those, experience of the gamblers are the most reliable way so they can chose with casinos to gamble and which are not. Although even reputable casinos have bad issues, but it does not matter as long as gamblers find them worth it to gamble and are still satisfied with how they handle their gamblers’ concerns and problems.
The casino may want to be the best, but it must be accompanied by everyone in the casino team's hard work to provide the best service to the users. It is only a matter of time for them to realize their wish because if they have succeeded in satisfying their members, the casino will get a good reputation among other casinos. And it will spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers want to try playing at that casino. There are problems in every casino, but it will depend on how well the team from casino can solve them.
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December 26, 2022, 04:30:52 PM
Each situation requires to be dealt with separately and objectively, there is no typical solution for all the problems of the player and the online casino, this is a two-way road and it cannot be said that this casino is not trusted because they have a lot of tickets from players with problems.
Each and every issue needs to be taken seriously and the respective solution need to be got. With online casinos we'll experience lots and lots of issues getting arisen. The lack of getting solution over the issues affect the reputation. As said, it is a two way road everything need to be given importance. A small delay in solving the problem might happen, but the ticket not getting created shouldn't happen.
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December 26, 2022, 04:15:03 PM
The said bad habits of a casino is to protect its platform from possible cheaters and money laundering.  When a player is gaining too much, casino will look at its wagering statistics and data.  If a casino finds something suspicious, the casino will freeze the account not processing the requested withdrawal until the issue or suspicion is cleared.  I know it is a bit too much for an honest player but let us understand that the casino needs to protect itself from losing huge amounts of money due to possible exploit.

If the player's account is proven to be clean then all the withdrawal requests will be processed and the account will be unblocked.
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December 26, 2022, 03:36:35 PM
Every good companies or business have bad reputations that re spread intentionally by haters, you can't be successful and not have people that will want to stop and ruin that success for you, if this isn't happening to you yet then you are not successful.

The only difference is bad companies have way more bad reputations than the good ones because it's real, but good companies rep are intentionally ruined by haters, period.
This is natural because of the competition among business people who want to get the top position in the same business sector. This makes them want to do everything to ensure that users will always use only their business premises and that they can get the greatest advantage over their competitors. But for now, users will not be lured by what is offered by casinos that are not trusted or do such bad things because they can choose the casino they want. I am sure that every casino will always be careful in competing with its competitors and will not let its competitors spread trouble for that casino.
With the stiff competition of casinos in the gambling industry, all casinos are thinking to be on top of the other. And they usually do this by offering their more trendy and advanced games and bonuses, and various promotions that will attract the interest of gamblers. But with all of those, experience of the gamblers are the most reliable way so they can chose with casinos to gamble and which are not. Although even reputable casinos have bad issues, but it does not matter as long as gamblers find them worth it to gamble and are still satisfied with how they handle their gamblers’ concerns and problems.
Overall satisfaction is the key or the thing on which these businesses is trying out to attain on this business or venture on which on the time that they had reach out that particular thing then it wont really be that hard

for them to sustain themselves on longer runs which is really that much needed or trying out to achieve.There might be some issues been raised but whats important is that they do able to resolved it out despite
of those issues.People or the masses wouldnt really mind that much or making it a big deal on the time that they would be choosing up which place they would be playing on.
The most important thing is on how they would really be giving out the best service.
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December 26, 2022, 03:32:22 PM
Not everything is perfect as you would often wish for. There are flaws in everything. You need to learn to accept it. Also, they need to solve the problems to improve them.
The important thing is that you have to find out whether they still have those problems or did they already fix it. Safe thing to do is join old platforms as they have made mistakes and learned from it to improve them. New platforms often comes with a lot of bugs and errors.
I think there are many people who can give you suggestions who have been on those platforms. They know the best.
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December 26, 2022, 03:20:07 PM
Every good companies or business have bad reputations that re spread intentionally by haters, you can't be successful and not have people that will want to stop and ruin that success for you, if this isn't happening to you yet then you are not successful.

The only difference is bad companies have way more bad reputations than the good ones because it's real, but good companies rep are intentionally ruined by haters, period.
This is natural because of the competition among business people who want to get the top position in the same business sector. This makes them want to do everything to ensure that users will always use only their business premises and that they can get the greatest advantage over their competitors. But for now, users will not be lured by what is offered by casinos that are not trusted or do such bad things because they can choose the casino they want. I am sure that every casino will always be careful in competing with its competitors and will not let its competitors spread trouble for that casino.
With the stiff competition of casinos in the gambling industry, all casinos are thinking to be on top of the other. And they usually do this by offering their more trendy and advanced games and bonuses, and various promotions that will attract the interest of gamblers. But with all of those, experience of the gamblers are the most reliable way so they can chose with casinos to gamble and which are not. Although even reputable casinos have bad issues, but it does not matter as long as gamblers find them worth it to gamble and are still satisfied with how they handle their gamblers’ concerns and problems.
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December 26, 2022, 02:46:08 PM
therefore, until the moment the gambler has won some good amount that he would like to withdraw from the casino, he is not faced with the fact that the casino will scam him.

I will put the blame on users in that particular situation. Why in the first place that a user still push and continue to play on that site despite being not aware of the site's reputation? If that case happened to a reputable site, in most cases users are the one who commits the mistake unintentionally but that should be properly detailed to the complainant, and won't just close the account without explanation.

Scams site are everywhere and their existence will be forever as there are always users that will end up as prey.

It's really mandatory that the necessary adjustment should be done by us to prevent from being scammed.

This is a difficult question and I don't have an answer to it. Suppose a gambler initially does not believe in his luck and he does not care which site to play on - on an honest or fraudulent one. Well, on the one hand, this is reasonable (since he always loses), but there is also a risk that one day he will win a large amount and in the end will not receive it because he played on a fraudulent site. It seems to me that such disappointment can become a huge psychological trauma.
This exaggeration, because gambler most have known a genius platform of gamblling site they can play with, so i believe that gambling is something i believe that before you are curious playing and losing you have known a site that have legitimate rules and regulations and also know the ability of pay out of cash out of the site, so that is why i said it's exaggeration, because a good gambler knows a nice gambling site that doesn't operate under scam.
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December 26, 2022, 02:41:08 PM
That means something else is causing the casino to continue to have problems and the casino should recognize this immediately and find out exactly what is happening with them. They may need to revamp their premises and investigate why there are so many cases after one well-solved case. And it doesn't make sense if that happens, but the members should look for other casinos that can be safer and not experience serious problems like the casino before.
A gambler that sees that the casino that he's in is no longer safe, has to look at it for real. While for the casino that does experiences something bad like what you've said, there's a need to look at it also as it will affect their day-to-day operations.

What we need to see is how do they respond when faced with situations like that, and I would say that many of the casinos that promote themselves here in the forum do a great job at resolving the complains of their customers as fast as they can.
It is one reason for someone to look at, the way they solve problems and give solutions to the complaints of the customers. That's one way of dealing with it. And when it's done too quick, it's making the customers liking them more.
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December 26, 2022, 02:21:29 PM
It is not easy to just collectively talk about all gamblers, it just makes no sense at all. I would say that from person to person, from casino to casino and from situation to situation everything changes a lot. That is why it's quite important to make sure that we are talking about something that would not be similar to everyone.

Some situations arises where a great casino for 10+ thousand people could be a nightmare of one person, they did everything right but casino screwed them over because of some misunderstanding. Or better yet, a place that scams everyone, could give you a big free win for promotion, like so you would say good things about them. Every situation is different.
People need to remember that even with the strict quality controls we have today even a company  that is 100% committed to give the best possible service or product to their customers can still make a mistake from time to time and this should not be enough to simply assume that this is standard we should use to judge it.

What we need to see is how do they respond when faced with situations like that, and I would say that many of the casinos that promote themselves here in the forum do a great job at resolving the complains of their customers as fast as they can.
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December 26, 2022, 05:45:54 AM
However, each casino will provide a good experience for all its members to gain a reputation among other casinos.

And one of the good experiences that a casino can give to their users is showing how good they are at solving problems quickly.

I just thought about this right now, what if the casino is really good at solving problems quickly but the number of problems, issues, and concerns they are receiving every day is really alarming and complaints are increasing every day?

Can we still trust them because they are solving problems quickly? For me, better found another site.
That means something else is causing the casino to continue to have problems and the casino should recognize this immediately and find out exactly what is happening with them. They may need to revamp their premises and investigate why there are so many cases after one well-solved case. And it doesn't make sense if that happens, but the members should look for other casinos that can be safer and not experience serious problems like the casino before.
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