Why God exists in all people mind? - page 38.

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Quote from: eagleman on December 16, 2016, 01:15:43 AM

Because God is real, doesn't need to prove his existence. And the proofs are surrounding us.

You've contradicted yourself.. You said that god is real but doesn't need the proof of his existance, how can you know he's real then? You can't just go around claiming shit like this. Then you said the the proof of god is all around us, you just said that he needs no proof... Proof is when "god" shows himself and says "Hey, yo , i'm god so yeah, cya" until lthen, no.

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Because God is real, doesn't need to prove his existence. And the proofs are surrounding us.

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Quote from: manbitcoinlover on December 15, 2016, 08:50:45 PM

What a difficult topic. In my opinion so far there is no god, in the traditional sense which people think. People think God is good, god is both good and bad, it is not a he or a she, it is energy. It allows you to take your breath and breathe and it also prevents you from breathing the same way, the perfect balance. A balance that can be perceived as cruel some of the times and yet also brilliant and king at others. God is everywhere, it is nature, it is mankind, it is animal. People get scared and then pray for something they perceive as good to happen to them. Good and bad are only perceptions.

If you ask me, the God people think of is more as how Cthulhu is described. Not something that is actually there but the true definition of something far beyond our reach and thought and just by claiming that god is there and exists is destroying the meaning of god.

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Quote from: manbitcoinlover on December 15, 2016, 08:50:45 PM

What a difficult topic. In my opinion so far there is no god, in the traditional sense which people think. People think God is good, god is both good and bad, it is not a he or a she, it is energy. It allows you to take your breath and breathe and it also prevents you from breathing the same way, the perfect balance. A balance that can be perceived as cruel some of the times and yet also brilliant and king at others. God is everywhere, it is nature, it is mankind, it is animal. People get scared and then pray for something they perceive as good to happen to them. Good and bad are only perceptions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

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What a difficult topic. In my opinion so far there is no god, in the traditional sense which people think. People think God is good, god is both good and bad, it is not a he or a she, it is energy. It allows you to take your breath and breathe and it also prevents you from breathing the same way, the perfect balance. A balance that can be perceived as cruel some of the times and yet also brilliant and king at others. God is everywhere, it is nature, it is mankind, it is animal. People get scared and then pray for something they perceive as good to happen to them. Good and bad are only perceptions.

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Quote from: swastik384 on December 14, 2016, 10:39:22 AM

Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

Questions like it weighs the same as the question, "How does it smell in blue?" Blue is not included anything that had an odor, so the question will automatically be wrong to ask.
Likewise, God does not belong to the category that is created or that have their origins. God does not have a cause and not created - that God is just there.
How do we know this? We know that from the "nothing" that is "being there." So one when, if everything is really "no," then there is nothing that would be "no." But it turns out, there is something to be. Not there may not be anything at all, then there is something that should always exist.
Something that always exist is what we call God.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 14, 2016, 09:12:16 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:45:13 PM

Im done .

Bye smart people. and yes (Alluh is the greatest).

Don't feel so badly. Those jokers are as ignorant of everything else as they are of the existence of God. In fact, they can't even understand that God exists for starters, even when someone shows the proofs for God's existence like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Let them go. They, the dead, will bury each other, and people who follow God will never have to put up with them again.

Cool

What god do you exactly believe in, by the way? I'm assuming Christianity due to its popularity but I'm still unsure. Maybe you're a Scientologist? Roll Eyes

In reply to this: (first thing you quoted)

Quote from: BADecker on March 09, 2015, 06:34:16 PM

Machine-like nature of the universe.
All around us, in nature and the universe we see machine-like operations. These operations are extremely complex inside life and the cells. Machines have makers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMn319zkZ2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id2rZS59xSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9cVhwPg84

Machine usage is in progression.
Animals use simple machines. Some primates (apes, chimps, monkeys) use rocks and sticks to work their food. The leverage they provide with the rocks and sticks is machine use.
People use simple machines. People make and use complex machines. All machines that people and animals make and use come from examples of machine operations in the universe.
The progression is that, as the machines that people make and use are far more advanced than the ones that animals make and use, so are the machines that exist in nature far more advanced than the ones that people make and use. The advanced machines of the universe have an advanced Maker - God. Machines have makers.

Let's say I agree with you - machines have makers. Okay, then. In that case, can we also conclude that your god is a machine, and that it too must have a maker? And let's go a step further and say that the nth maker must have an n+1th maker, infinitely so.

And let's talk more about these machines: humans are perfect, yet flawed in so many ways. Wisdom teeth, cancer development, the list goes on and on... why did god punish us so? And if the soul does exist, then do animals other than humans go to heaven? What of infants, who have no belief of god?

Why are they deserving of an everlasting heaven?

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Quote from: swastik384 on December 14, 2016, 10:39:22 AM

Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

Well i cant really explain that to you because its unexplainable but all i know is that God is real i experienced it with my own very eyes although you can't really believe me because i have no proof but its up to you i really prayed to God then when i pray it happens i mean it really do i never thought that it would be real then again i believed in him 100% then that misunderstanding about God is some people don't know the real story of the bible they misunderstood it for some reason they are not understood the story of the bible the verse the story yes! its just a book but the stories are true they have proof in it Cheesy

but unfortunately God really exists in our own mind his the one who talks to you when you make decisions when you talk to your self your talking to God Cheesy

its his/her in our mind

but we never noticed it because we are self centered human

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Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 09:29:38 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 14, 2016, 09:12:16 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:45:13 PM

Im done .

Bye smart people. and yes (Alluh is the greatest).

Don't feel so badly. Those jokers are as ignorant of everything else as they are of the existence of God. In fact, they can't even understand that God exists for starters, even when someone shows the proofs for God's existence like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Let them go. They, the dead, will bury each other, and people who follow God will never have to put up with them again.

Cool

Spoiler alert: Badecker's "proofs" are nothing more than cleverly worded conjecture, and not proofs at all. In fact, proofs of god are a fallacy in themselves, as they can never be absolute proofs (like mathematical proofs can). Furthermore, proof of god is an oxymoron as the basis of believing in a god requires faith, which cannot by definition be scientifically proven.

A better word for these "proofs" would be "evidence", however the evidence is fallacious and misleading, often making false assumptions and tricking the reader into making connections that are unrelated, amongst using other misleading techniques.

If there was truly, irrefutable scientific proof for god, then why has no actual scientist published a paper in a reputable journal proving just that?! Guy would win a Nobel prize for sure.

So yeah, if you wanna believe in invisible supernatural beings that influence your life, go ahead, I don't have a problem with that. But don't believe for a second that these beings can be scientifically proven - you need to trust your blind faith.

There are people all over the place who do not accept Big Bang Theory as truth... and for good reason. Even science doesn't know that it is fact. That's why they call it "theory."

Think out the understanding of the laws in the proof I give, and you will see that they prove the existence of God. Why? Because you nobody can show that those laws could exists in the same universe that God doesn't exist.

They don't prove much more that His existence. But if you don't understand that He exists, how are you ever going to look for and believe what He says?

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Quote from: BADecker on December 14, 2016, 09:12:16 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:45:13 PM

Im done .

Bye smart people. and yes (Alluh is the greatest).

Don't feel so badly. Those jokers are as ignorant of everything else as they are of the existence of God. In fact, they can't even understand that God exists for starters, even when someone shows the proofs for God's existence like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Let them go. They, the dead, will bury each other, and people who follow God will never have to put up with them again.

Cool

Spoiler alert: Badecker's "proofs" are nothing more than cleverly worded conjecture, and not proofs at all. In fact, proofs of god are a fallacy in themselves, as they can never be absolute proofs (like mathematical proofs can). Furthermore, proof of god is an oxymoron as the basis of believing in a god requires faith, which cannot by definition be scientifically proven.

A better word for these "proofs" would be "evidence", however the evidence is fallacious and misleading, often making false assumptions and tricking the reader into making connections that are unrelated, amongst using other misleading techniques.

If there was truly, irrefutable scientific proof for god, then why has no actual scientist published a paper in a reputable journal proving just that?! Guy would win a Nobel prize for sure.

So yeah, if you wanna believe in invisible supernatural beings that influence your life, go ahead, I don't have a problem with that. But don't believe for a second that these beings can be scientifically proven - you need to trust your blind faith.

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It depends on what religous belief you are a part of. At an early stage of a child parents taught their children about God. That is why God exist in people's mind. There are also documentaries of some people who become dead and brought back to life again for no reason. They say that they talk to God and they saw a beautiful place. That is why manny people believe God because of the testimonies of some people.

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Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:45:13 PM

Im done .

Bye smart people. and yes (Alluh is the greatest).

Don't feel so badly. Those jokers are as ignorant of everything else as they are of the existence of God. In fact, they can't even understand that God exists for starters, even when someone shows the proofs for God's existence like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Let them go. They, the dead, will bury each other, and people who follow God will never have to put up with them again.

Cool

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Im done .

Bye smart people. and yes (Alluh is the greatest).

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Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:23:55 PM

SO YOU JUST HATE THE FUCKING WORD ALLUH AND GOD Huh

? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
I WILL BELIEVE IN GOD ONLY AS A GOD .

ALSO I FINALY UNDERSTAND WHAT GOING ON WITH YOU PEOPLE :

YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAATE THE WORD GOD AND ALLUH.

OK GOD HATER LETS CALL HIM (0x.05612300) IS THAT GONNA MAKE YOU HAPPY NOW???

What the fuck i'm doing here on bitcoinstalk !!!!!!

Shit!

Oh shit we fucked up guys, turns out this bararily is telling the truth...

I just called that number and some dude with a squeaky voice told me I need to face Mecca, put a towel on my girlfriend's head or we'll both go to hell!

(I lie, I don't have a girlfriend, the sqeaky guy just gave me a legit source for some duct tape, C4 explosive and dead man switch detonators)

Allahu Akbar!!! Grin

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Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:23:55 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:19:31 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:14:51 PM

Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:04:08 PM

Sure, let me try.

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And the overlord Krahzul said:
I am the one and I created all of this
I am the one true god, rest of the gods
from different religions are shit, fuck them.

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How did I do? Do I pass as ignorant moron now? I do really consider blindly religious people like you to be just plain stupid, there's nothing else involved, just pure stupidity.

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

Richard Dawkins

Wow "Richard Dawkins" said that ? i must believe in him cause he is a well known man. a man who traveled the whole fucking universe searching for god and he didn't find him, i was wrong there is no god i will just believe that i exist and people on earth exist nothing else out there (I'm smart now) .

Nah, you're still pretty dumb. Well yeah that's pretty much that, tho we don't know what exists beyond the observable universe. Tho, why don't you believe in some other god that? Why alah? there are shit ton of other ones. Also, tell me, are you from US or some other country where the MAIN religion is Islam? or is it more like a tradition in your family than a geography question?

SO YOU JUST HATE THE FUCKING WORD ALLUH AND GOD Huh

? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
I WILL BELIEVE IN GOD ONLY AS A GOD .

ALSO I FINALY UNDERSTAND WHAT GOING ON WITH YOU PEOPLE :

YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAATE THE WORD GOD AND ALLUH.

OK GOD HATER LETS CALL HIM (0x.05612300) IS THAT GONNA MAKE YOU HAPPY NOW???

What the fuck i'm doing here on bitcoinstalk !!!!!!

Shit!

ah yes, the all caps... you know, I've had a game when Im bored. There was one muslim website with a live chat support, and my goal is to piss them off so much that they start writing in caps..

Nah, you're wrong again I don't hate the word god, it has a meaning to itself, I like calling Trump God Emperor. I'm not a god hater I just can't understand how can you believe such bullshit... I mean, it's a book someone wrote 2000 years ago in the desert when people had no fcking clue what thunder is and yet alone the universe and what's beyond our planet earth... and ofcourse they're gonna make up some story. I'm also just asking why do you think that alah is the only true god? Also, you still didn't answer my question on are you born in a muslim country or is your father, mother or both muslim.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:19:31 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:14:51 PM

Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:04:08 PM

Sure, let me try.

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And the overlord Krahzul said:
I am the one and I created all of this
I am the one true god, rest of the gods
from different religions are shit, fuck them.

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How did I do? Do I pass as ignorant moron now? I do really consider blindly religious people like you to be just plain stupid, there's nothing else involved, just pure stupidity.

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

Richard Dawkins

Wow "Richard Dawkins" said that ? i must believe in him cause he is a well known man. a man who traveled the whole fucking universe searching for god and he didn't find him, i was wrong there is no god i will just believe that i exist and people on earth exist nothing else out there (I'm smart now) .

Nah, you're still pretty dumb. Well yeah that's pretty much that, tho we don't know what exists beyond the observable universe. Tho, why don't you believe in some other god that? Why alah? there are shit ton of other ones. Also, tell me, are you from US or some other country where the MAIN religion is Islam? or is it more like a tradition in your family than a geography question?

SO YOU JUST HATE THE FUCKING WORD ALLUH AND GOD Huh

? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
I WILL BELIEVE IN GOD ONLY AS A GOD .

ALSO I FINALY UNDERSTAND WHAT GOING ON WITH YOU PEOPLE :

YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAATE THE WORD GOD AND ALLUH.

OK GOD HATER LETS CALL HIM (0x.05612300) IS THAT GONNA MAKE YOU HAPPY NOW???

What the fuck i'm doing here on bitcoinstalk !!!!!!

Shit!

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Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:14:51 PM

Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:04:08 PM

Sure, let me try.

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And the overlord Krahzul said:
I am the one and I created all of this
I am the one true god, rest of the gods
from different religions are shit, fuck them.

----------------------------------

How did I do? Do I pass as ignorant moron now? I do really consider blindly religious people like you to be just plain stupid, there's nothing else involved, just pure stupidity.

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

Richard Dawkins

Wow "Richard Dawkins" said that ? i must believe in him cause he is a well known man. a man who traveled the whole fucking universe searching for god and he didn't find him, i was wrong there is no god i will just believe that i exist and people on earth exist nothing else out there (I'm smart now) .

Nah, you're still pretty dumb. Well yeah that's pretty much that, tho we don't know what exists beyond the observable universe. Tho, why don't you believe in some other god that? Why alah? there are shit ton of other ones. Also, tell me, are you from US or some other country where the MAIN religion is Islam? or is it more like a tradition in your family than a geography question?

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Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on December 14, 2016, 08:04:08 PM

Sure, let me try.

----------------------

And the overlord Krahzul said:
I am the one and I created all of this
I am the one true god, rest of the gods
from different religions are shit, fuck them.

----------------------------------

How did I do? Do I pass as ignorant moron now? I do really consider blindly religious people like you to be just plain stupid, there's nothing else involved, just pure stupidity.

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

Richard Dawkins

Wow "Richard Dawkins" said that ? i must believe in him cause he is a well known man. a man who traveled the whole fucking universe searching for god and he didn't find him, i was wrong there is no god i will just believe that i exist and people on earth exist nothing else out there (I'm smart now) .

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Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 08:10:31 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 08:08:05 PM

#Tyrantt

Shut up.

Nice comeback, I'm sure that will convince him to become a devout muslim Cheesy

No,no he got me. I've became a muslim. I've left my phone number and an email to a local mosque so they can contact me. But I'm not sure tho, bararily, maybe you know. When you convert to islam, how to do you pick who will go suicide bombing? Is it like a random or what?

Also, suddenly I feel such an urge to kill gays, stone women for not wearing hijab and rape goats. ALAHU AKBAR where are my goats?

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Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 07:25:19 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 06:58:21 PM

Quote from: protokol on December 14, 2016, 06:18:09 PM

Quote from: bararily on December 14, 2016, 10:43:05 AM

Why god exist because you exist.

You cant just say that you and i exist and satoshi nakamoto but god NO he doesn't exist. think about it & good luck.

by this logic, if we exist as a result of god, then god must exist as a result of a higher god. And the higher god must exist as the result of a Super God - it's gods all the way up!

Seriously though, on topic there is research to suggest that the belief in a higher power to explain natural phenomena (earthquakes/lightning/tsunamis/tornados/floods etc.), actually helped humans become more advanced.

As an example, they noticed that when the seasons changed and the stars appeared in different places, they recognized good times to grow crops and have chiildren. They probably thought the "star gods" and "sun god" were teaching them a better, more efficient way of life.

Of course now we know that that's mostly bullshit, but the religious myths arguably had a positive influence on humans success in the world.

"by this logic, if we exist as a result of god, then god must exist as a result of a higher god..."
NOPE, The answer is already in quran (Islam) God Said:

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Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
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So as muslims we believe that god created us and there is noone like him he is the one.

But yeah, for you fuck these words cause they are fake and muslims should be killed.
So GoodLuck.

Believe what you want mate, I don't give a shit. I'm just pointing out how illogical it is to base your life on a book written by a bunch of mortals a couple of thousand years ago. I don't believe in the Egyptian Book of the Dead (which predates the Quran), and I don't think I'll need to weigh my heart as judgement before entering the afterlife. Does that make me a bad person?

Oh and you can fuck right off by insinuating that I want to kill muslims, don't put words in my mouth you little bitch. I have respect for most people on this planet but I have no patience for people that try and push their religious bullshit and propaganda down my throat. Still, doen't mean I want to kill them.

Stop playing the victim and formulate some coherent arguments you close minded fuckwit.

Taking facts about god that some sand nigger wrote in the desert 2k years ago? Fckin brilliant!

You can't recieve an actual argument from these blind people. On every argument you give, they'll respond "ooga booga it's god, duh", you just can't speak with them. Also, I just can't understand how can they just believe in something that's such a bullshit. I mean, what's that that makes you god the legit one? out of 500+ god, yours the legit one.. I mean, come on, what? Following the philosophy of a religion is fine and can be amazing (unless that involves honor killing, hanging gay people, stoning women, blowing yourself up).

Also, tell me bararily, if islam promotes love and stories like that, why did none of the Muslim states accept the migrants? N o love for the muslim brothers?

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